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Postby Buddy Glass » Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:15 pm

That first driving shot reminded me of

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I think I'm going to go see this again this afternoon. Went yesterday, liked it a lot, think I'll enjoy it even more now that I'm not trying to figure out where the plot is going.

I was so worried - as in the dinner scene, on the stairs when Reynolds first gets back from his walk - that it was going to turn physically violent and then just be yet another movie about a talented artist who's a terrible person. In some ways it might still be that, but with a pretty wonderfully unexpected outcome. Chekhov's shrooms.

All three of their major bonding moments arise out of bad behavior - first when Reynolds makes the joke about digging up the fan who wanted to be buried in one of his dresses (Alma comes onto him right after), then again when they go forcibly remove the dress from the bride (he tells her thanks, she says I love you), and then finally of course at the end when Reynolds realizes she's been poisoning him and is way into it.
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What became of her? She lived, as she liked to say, off the kindness of gentlemen. I assume she’s dead.
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Postby bluemovers » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:05 pm

i haven't had the privilege of seeing this movie yet, but i just wanna say the soundtrack is really, really incredible.
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Postby quilty » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:10 pm

buddy i was similarly worried it was veering into the beguiledToggle Spoiler territory at the start of the final third but then i was greatly relieved by the twist
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Postby ripersnifle » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:47 pm

going tonight
v amped!

(also amped to check out the soundtrack)
steakspoon wrote:sorry if sounds corny fellas but i'll always remember where i was when i heard my first big star song..the internet
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Postby ratbags » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:16 pm

love this fucking movie
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Postby forest design » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:21 am

That was what I wish all cinema experiences were like.
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Postby easy » Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:14 am

omg this movie
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Postby Ersaph » Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:19 am

This was sick ass, HOWEVER, I have a terrible cold and fell asleep right from the NYE party and then for about 20 mins which seemed like a tasty chunk of it

I will rewatch in 70mm, the scene where they get the dress back is iconic
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Postby ratbags » Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:21 am

easy wrote:omg this movie

Yup
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Postby easy » Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:27 am

forest design wrote:That was what I wish all cinema experiences were like.


more or less yeah
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Postby ripersnifle » Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:49 am

Jonny tha GOAT
steakspoon wrote:sorry if sounds corny fellas but i'll always remember where i was when i heard my first big star song..the internet
ripersnifle wrote:that aesthetic was tight
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Postby easy » Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:53 am

yeah the soundtrack is next level good
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Postby powderfinger » Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:55 am

Blown away
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Postby ripersnifle » Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:57 am

just got out of this (aftering watching it with my current crush, which was a bit odd, tbh.)
got the sense that she wasn't as into it as i was, so i had to kind of hide my enjoyment as we were processing it after. :?

such a thought-provoking film that i already feel like i want to see again - especially, as was said, while not watching "for the plot." i also had anxiety about it lapsing into extreme violence or cruelty, but it just kind of ... lingered in this liminal space affectively for such a long time. the dinner argument scene was riveting, as PTA had spent so much time building up to it as a confrontation, and so to finally here Alma's frustration, to hear her cuss was rly powerful for me. as Jugdish said, it feels like a movie that is centrally focused on desire/cathexis/eroticism. pretty amazingly executed.Toggle Spoiler
steakspoon wrote:sorry if sounds corny fellas but i'll always remember where i was when i heard my first big star song..the internet
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Postby easy » Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:59 am

pta really knows how to make me feel like an alien
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Postby ripersnifle » Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:00 am

ripersnifle wrote:as Jugdish said, it feels like a movie that is centrally focused on desire/cathexis/eroticism.Toggle Spoiler
this is also basically what made seeing it with my crush weird lol
steakspoon wrote:sorry if sounds corny fellas but i'll always remember where i was when i heard my first big star song..the internet
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Postby ripersnifle » Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:01 am

i might go back tomorrow, fuck it lol
steakspoon wrote:sorry if sounds corny fellas but i'll always remember where i was when i heard my first big star song..the internet
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Postby ripersnifle » Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:04 am

delgriffith wrote:I can't go to sleep because I keep thinking about this.
Buzz Fledderjohn wrote:some shots/scenes that stuck with me:

-the mother standing next to the door
-the whole NYE scene was incredible, particularly greenwood's score clashing with auld lang syne
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these, in particular, almost took my breath away.
steakspoon wrote:sorry if sounds corny fellas but i'll always remember where i was when i heard my first big star song..the internet
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Postby ripersnifle » Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:04 am

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Postby ripersnifle » Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:19 am

ripersnifle wrote:Jonny tha GOAT
The composer spoke to Variety about the process of creating a score that reflected the film's romance and glamour: "We talked a lot about '50s music, what was popularly heard then as well as what was being written and recorded. Nelson Riddle and Glenn Gould's Bach recordings were the main references. I was interested in the kind of jazz records that toyed with incorporating big string sections; Ben Webster made some good ones." Greenwood continues, "The smaller groups, and solo players, work like close-ups [and] not necessarily to accompany [a] visual, but rather, to focus your attention on and make you feel directly engaged with the characters. The bigger orchestral things often worked best for drawing you back to see the bigger situation."
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Postby shirts optional » Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:30 am

An excellent, excellent film
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Postby forest design » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:40 am

Love Ben Webster’s Music for Loving so much. Jonny’s the best.
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Postby forest design » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:43 am

Don’t understand how this isn’t right at the top of every end of the year list. This and Twin Peaks make almost everything else I saw from 2017 seem like a trifle.
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Postby variegated reality » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:43 pm

The score is so incredibly beautiful. I keep letting out these little gasps.
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Postby variegated reality » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:46 pm

Midway through listening to "Alma" and I look out the window and it is a gorgeous day and two flocks of birds fly by in V formation and I just want to die.
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Postby bluemovers » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:55 pm

Sandalwood II
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Postby someguy » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:58 pm

this movie is 2 hours spent on one idea

lesley manville is the best part because her character is the hardest to pin down, once pta gives up the ghost after the botched surprise dinner it's a matter of waiting around for things to come to a head. then pta throws in the 'surprise! he's into it!' twist endingToggle Spoiler

like this isn't a bad movie by any means but the psychology is pretty simple, the style and performances make up for what it lacks but only up to a certain point
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Postby someguy » Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:01 pm

gonna get yelled at for having this opinion but whatever, just surprised at how euphoric the reactions are for something pretty straightforward
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Postby ratbags » Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:09 pm

Hitchcock was also often able to wow people with simplicity and straightforwardness
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Postby ratbags » Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:10 pm

The dialogue is riveting too which can cause euphoria I suppose. The dinner argument is so exceptionally written and performed
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