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Health insurance rip off lying FDA big bankers buying
Fake computer crashes dining
Cloning while they're multiplying
Fashion shoots with Beck and Hanson
Courtney Love, and Marilyn Manson
You're all fakes
Run to your mansions
Come around
We'll kick your ass in

Postby tgk » Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:15 pm

yeah last weeks ep with his dad and friend felt realllllly condescending and racist
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Postby easy » Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:16 pm

also I'm not on board at all w/ saranclaps "is this the best plotted sitcom of all time" thing. honestly the plotting is the weakest aspect once you hit mid-s2. it does a respectable job of hiding the narrative shell game so I give it props for that, but if you actually track the plot/character progression, the writers are clearly satisfied at the time being of moving the ball fifty yards down the line before moving it back to the 20 yard line almost immediately afterwards.

like I don't really care so much because I'm having a good time with it, but it's clearly got to tread water pretty routinely in order to keep things going. simply love to mix metaphors.
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Postby pissydan » Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:28 pm

easy wrote:I like jason's character on the page but I do not like jacinto's portrayal whatsoever. everything he does—like every gesture and facial expression—is so BIG. it's like he's doing a kel mitchell impression.


pissydan's the good place character rankings (main):

1. chidi
2. janet
3. michael
4. eleanor
5. jason
6. tahani

pissydan's the good place character rankings (secondary):

1. judge
2. simone
3. trevor
4. mindy st claire
5. derek
6. chet
7. real eleanor / denise
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Postby tgk » Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:36 pm

god derek should have been around more
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Postby That Demon Life » Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:37 pm

1. Michael
2. Janet
3. Eleanor
4. Chidi
5. Jason
6. Tahani
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Postby buriedinspace » Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:46 pm

pissydan's the good place character rankings (main):

1. Janet
2. Chidi
3. Tahani
4. Elanor
5. Michael
6. Jason

1. Derek
2. Bad Janet
3. Simone
4. Mindy St. Claire
5. Real Elanor/Denise
6. Shawn
7. Pillboi
8. The Judge
9. Trevor
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Postby buriedinspace » Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:49 pm

None of the 9 additional characters listed do I dislike. I am sort of ambivalent toward Jason but otherwise am very high on all of the main characters but Janet is my clear #1. I think I liked Chidi more when he wasn't as defined by his indecision but what can you do? Tahani is a more fun joke machine to me than Jason.
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Postby jalapeño ranch » Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:50 pm

Wait, why does everybody dislike Jason?
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Postby pissydan » Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:51 pm

jalapeño ranch wrote:Wait, why does everybody dislike Jason?

i dont. but out of the solid starting 6, he clearly lacks the fire power of the top 4.
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Postby Rainbow Battle Kid » Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:57 pm

i'm only midway through s2, (just met Derek) but I just think Jason is playing it a bit bigger and cartoonier than the others.

as a janet stan, i was v into this whole ep being focused on her. there's a very specific MINOR-type of joke that I think is the funniest thing, and they do it in this one. when she explains to Elenor that she can't get drunk, but can become disoriented around large magnets, Elenor is like "yeah there ya go! throw back a couple magnets, go dancing," etc.

The other example is in Parks and Rec when Jean Ralphio is talking to Ben after he resigns in disgrace, and trying to cheer him up, and he's like "you gotta have a passion! like model trains or toy Gandalfs or something"

I was trying to figure out what is so funny about those to me and I guess it's kinda not-with-it characters trying very earnestly to buy into someone else's reality in a really positive way? I dunno but i'm a weirdo and i love it.
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Postby buriedinspace » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:08 pm

jalapeño ranch wrote:Wait, why does everybody dislike Jason?


Plays it so big, is sort of late period Homer Simpson levels of dumb.

I accept him just fine and occasionally he's pretty funny but he's my clear least fave of the main characters.
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Postby scrambled » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:09 pm

plus, manny jacinto is *so* hot that his dumb lines irritate me even more
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Postby jalapeño ranch » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:15 pm

Liking Chidi more than Jason is very confusing to me. I don't mind the over-the-topness considering... the entire show.
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Postby easy » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:17 pm

it's not that it's over-the-top, it's that it's a high school improv troupe's version of over-the-top
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Postby scrambled » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:17 pm

liking Tahani the best is the right option
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Postby pissydan » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:19 pm

scrambled wrote:liking Tahani the best is the right option

no, that's... no
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Postby scrambled » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:19 pm

pissydan wrote:
scrambled wrote:liking Tahani the best is the right option

no, that's... no


i felt the need to say that after seeing her last in your ranking, actually :x
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Postby separator » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:20 pm

i think it's pretty clear that jason and his dad are offensive representations of people from jacksonville
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Postby guy forget » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:21 pm

Tahini is great wth

There is one moment in s1 that’s not really played for laughs when she plaintively asks, “whither tahani?!” that is just so funny to me
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Postby easy » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:23 pm

there's a whisper in your snickerbox
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Postby blurst of times » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:29 pm

Chidi
Janet
Michael
Eleanor
Tahani
Jason

I like Jason though
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Postby separator » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:29 pm

oh yeah d'arcy carden (janet) is the star of this show and it's not close after her, everyone else is still good though
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Postby tgk » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:30 pm

yeah and she's been extremely underused this season which sucks
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Postby blurst of times » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:33 pm

I put Chidi #1 mainly because his anxiety and paralyzing feelings of indecision are v relatable to me, but as far as performances go yeah I think carden is at the top
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Postby Pops Freshenmeyer » Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:11 am

really enjoyed the ep last night but it does make you realize how much the show misses the afterlife world
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Postby internetfriend » Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:03 pm

jason is, yes, definitely a bad character, but chidi honestly puts me off the show more than anything else. his “im broken. you broke me” thing in response to ted’s explanation of how time worked in the afterlife (or whatever) was maybe the tidiest summation of why. he’s become an anthropomorphization of every useless, faux-incredulous statement that people append to the back of sentences out of some reflexive fear of not constantly seeming conscious of their situation. shit like
“....because THAT makes sense!”
“, because apparently THAT’S a thing now!”
“, and, wow, i just realized how that would sound out of context”

it’s truly my biggest pet peeve in real conversations (can you tell?). this show seems to be pushing toward it more and more, and it makes it much harder to watch. in a season every episode will consist of someone showing chidi a picture of a demon and him going “awkwarrrrrrrd!”
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Postby internetfriend » Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:06 pm

mfw the moda kick in and i’m thinkin about chidi
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Postby scramble » Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:42 pm

Chidi
Eleanor
Michael
Janet
Tahani
Jballs

I undrstand how talented carden is but the character is of somewhat less interest to me
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Postby scrambled » Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:35 pm

I think I'd watch a show just about Tahani tbh just caught up and loved the sister storyline
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Postby internetfriend » Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:48 pm

just caught up

the last couple episodes were big improvements i think. spending a whole episode back in the second season's premise makes me wonder about the show's direction though. like, do even they know that was better? where are we goin
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