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Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:38 pm
by palmer eldritch
fwiw even Southern California was solidly Clinton in '16 and I think it was narrowly Obama in '12. it could elect Republican governors tho, and maybe Senators in midterms.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:41 pm
by Ted Pikul
tgk wrote:when was the last time we redrew a state?


Apparently in 2017 North and South Carolina swapped 19 houses "following years of surveys and negotiation"

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:43 pm
by coop
how the states got their shapes was a pretty cool show

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:44 pm
by what the schmuck
Feech La Manna wrote:
delgriffith wrote:
Fuck this too.





Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:06 pm
by saranclaps
Someone pointed out to me that Trump's attacks on the news media are the accumulation of 35 years of grievances of how he was treated in print or TV or whatever, like those tweets stem from him being mad at people poking fun at his hair in the 90s.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:09 pm
by Buzz Fledderjohn
saranclaps wrote:Someone pointed out to me that Trump's attacks on the news media are the accumulation of 35 years of grievances of how he was treated in print or TV or whatever, like those tweets stem from him being mad at people poking fun at his hair in the 90s.


i'm sure that plays a part, but also like it's pretty much his last resort given the blatant level of corruption, crime, wrongdoing, lies, etc. there is no real coherent excuse for any of it, so you kind of have to go with the simple and all-encompassing "fake news! not true! lying media!" which all of his supporters get and agree with by now.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:13 pm
by dragon jeans
what up bootlickers is 100% my new email salutation

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:15 pm
by palmer eldritch
where DJT is right and the people who try to reign him in on his staff were wrong, is that the constant twitter tirades, repeating lies and attacks, works pretty well, at least with your base of support. consolidating a base of support within your party is important if you don't want to be challenged, investigated, impeached. the Mueller investigation is getting less and less popular, and Trump is cruising with Reagan levels of approval from Republican-identifying voters.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:20 pm
by viachicago
dragon jeans wrote:what up bootlickers is 100% my new email salutation


and "MARX" is my new signoff

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:24 pm
by delgriffith
palmer eldritch wrote:where DJT is right and the people who try to reign him in on his staff were wrong, is that the constant twitter tirades, repeating lies and attacks, works pretty well, at least with your base of support. consolidating a base of support within your party is important if you don't want to be challenged, investigated, impeached. the Mueller investigation is getting less and less popular, and Trump is cruising with Reagan levels of approval from Republican-identifying voters.

Yeah he's winning. And the laughs we all had after the Lester Holt interview seem like 5 years ago.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:25 pm
by The Emperor's Son
palmer eldritch wrote:where DJT is right and the people who try to reign him in on his staff were wrong, is that the constant twitter tirades, repeating lies and attacks, works pretty well, at least with your base of support. consolidating a base of support within your party is important if you don't want to be challenged, investigated, impeached. the Mueller investigation is getting less and less popular, and Trump is cruising with Reagan levels of approval from Republican-identifying voters.

nail it to the church

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:26 pm
by badhat
i think i am on Team That Guy

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:27 pm
by Ted Pikul
The scary thing about "fake news" is how effective it's been as an attack

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:28 pm
by easy
we could always try making the drumpf thing stick

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:32 pm
by darger
or a bit more emolument talk.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:35 pm
by quaker city

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:37 pm
by tgk
Eh they got all branches of govt locked up after the 16 election even the dumbest Republican on earth would be enjoying monumental support. Let's see how popular he is if we take the house and Senate back and can't get anything done

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:37 pm
by palmer eldritch
Ted Pikul wrote:The scary thing about "fake news" is how effective it's been as an attack


a big pet peeve I have these days is when people adopt this as a joke phrase or try to turn it around on Republicans.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:38 pm
by tgk
Man i am going to legitimately celebrate tonight if cohen gets arrested

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:40 pm
by Ferrous Bueller
palmer eldritch wrote:
Ted Pikul wrote:The scary thing about "fake news" is how effective it's been as an attack


a big pet peeve I have these days is when people adopt this as a joke phrase or try to turn it around on Republicans.


weren't dems the ones who coined it in the first place?

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:40 pm
by palmer eldritch
I trace it to infowars

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:42 pm
by hbb
Ferrous Bueller wrote:
palmer eldritch wrote:
Ted Pikul wrote:The scary thing about "fake news" is how effective it's been as an attack


a big pet peeve I have these days is when people adopt this as a joke phrase or try to turn it around on Republicans.


weren't dems the ones who coined it in the first place?


Yeah, Trump reversed it instantly by using it all the time, it’s so frustrating

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:43 pm
by Hal Jordan
saranclaps wrote:Someone pointed out to me that Trump's attacks on the news media are the accumulation of 35 years of grievances of how he was treated in print or TV or whatever, like those tweets stem from him being mad at people poking fun at his hair in the 90s.


eh, maybe, but this reason from the man himself seems more likely:

Lesley Stahl: Trump admitted mission to "discredit" press
CBS "60 Minutes" correspondent Lesley Stahl has revealed a candid remark made to her by then-presidential candidate Donald Trump in 2016. Stahl told a group of fellow journalists at the Deadline Club Awards Dinner in New York City earlier this week that Mr. Trump had admitted his consistent attacks on the media were meant to "discredit" journalists so that negative stories about him would not be believed.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:43 pm
by Franco
Ferrous Bueller wrote:
palmer eldritch wrote:
Ted Pikul wrote:The scary thing about "fake news" is how effective it's been as an attack


a big pet peeve I have these days is when people adopt this as a joke phrase or try to turn it around on Republicans.


weren't dems the ones who coined it in the first place?



yea the anger i feel towards joke "fake news" or joke red hats is pretty similar to the real thing

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:44 pm
by hbb
If you think “instantly” and “all the time” make that a nonsequitur, I guess you’re not familiar with a little concept called the ETERNAL NOW

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:45 pm
by Hal Jordan
palmer eldritch wrote:
Ted Pikul wrote:The scary thing about "fake news" is how effective it's been as an attack


a big pet peeve I have these days is when people adopt this as a joke phrase or try to turn it around on Republicans.

especially when it's not even used the same way. dem's might use it sarcastically (or intentionally) for news that is in fact not true, while a lot of times republicans use it to dismiss news they dislike.

if the latter uses it that way, they prob think the former is using it that way too, and not actually pointing out it is in fact not accurate.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:46 pm
by mcwop23
The Emperor's Son wrote:
palmer eldritch wrote:where DJT is right and the people who try to reign him in on his staff were wrong, is that the constant twitter tirades, repeating lies and attacks, works pretty well, at least with your base of support. consolidating a base of support within your party is important if you don't want to be challenged, investigated, impeached. the Mueller investigation is getting less and less popular, and Trump is cruising with Reagan levels of approval from Republican-identifying voters.

nail it to the church



nail it to the church is such a cool phrase/use

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:01 pm
by jalapeño ranch
The thing that annoys me the most about "fake news" is it was originally meant in regards to the blatant lies Trump kept telling before the election, then he took it and forced it to mean the opposite.

edit: I see that's been covered.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:04 pm
by pana
Trump just retweeted the article about our galaxy being twice the size it was 2 years ago and equal to the size of Andromeda. And added "You're welcome."

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:07 pm
by viachicago
the issue is Republicans learned a long time ago they can shape policy and win elections by blatantly lying and creating dumb soundbites. it dosent matter if something is true or not. if you say it in front of a camera and broadcast to a low information base that actively rejects science, reason, and critical thinking they will vote for you.

the other issue is democrats are completely spineless and will spend all day trying to pick apart the logical fallacies of a raving lunatic who is appealing to a base entirely on primal impulses.