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Postby mcwop23 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:42 pm



scientific enough for me
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Postby palmer eldritch » Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:43 pm

I'm not sure how it could be a Bernie Hillary outcome when Whitmer won every county
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Postby Ankh » Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:55 pm

the northern part of OH-12 reads more toward youngstown/eastern ohio than affluent suburb

the 12 -> 16 shift could reflect loss of union power (AK Steel and the GM plant in mansfield are severely diminished/closed)
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Postby transitive » Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:18 pm

mcwop23 wrote:

scientific enough for me


This is pretty accurate. Though when you get up into Marion you're starting to get into legit rural blight.

But Delaware is just miles and miles of

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Postby Buzz Fledderjohn » Wed Aug 08, 2018 5:13 pm

i'm getting hives over bob menendez again
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Postby futurist » Wed Aug 08, 2018 5:42 pm

palmer eldritch wrote:I'm not sure how it could be a Bernie Hillary outcome when Whitmer won every county


a lot of discouraged El-Sayed voters choosing not to vote for Whitmer or not vote altogether in november
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Postby palmer eldritch » Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:01 pm

is Michigan an especially misogynistic place or something?
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Postby laserblast » Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:31 pm

palmer eldritch wrote:is Michigan an especially misogynistic place or something?


yeah it stands for misogynistic chigan
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Postby futurist » Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:44 pm

palmer eldritch wrote:is Michigan an especially misogynistic place or something?


not more than anywhere else, but compared to El-Sayed a lot of people seem to be portraying Whitmer as an establishment politician for white suburbanites.

i for one am not particularly upset if this means giving democrats a broader appeal to annihilate Schuette.
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Postby palmer eldritch » Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:15 pm

I'm sure there are parochial issues at play there it's just kind of weird as an outsider since Whitmer's platform is basically a standard center-left one right now. expand Medicaid, $15 minimum wage, repeal right to work, repeal abortion restrictions, expand pre-K, recreational marijuana legalization. and really no Democratic governor is going to be able to do much of that with the legislative gerrymander. she might get to expand Medicaid and come up with some compromises on another issue or two, and her main purpose is to be around for redistricting to happen.
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Postby laserblast » Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:29 pm

i don't want to judge people i know nothing about but, for all the absurd bad faith posturing about lefty dudes/the Berniebro, some of them really are misogynist shitheads

and then yeah plenty of people on all sides had their brains broken by 2016

still others (correctly tbh!) perceive that the center-left democratic platform, while objectively a remarkable improvement, is still in many ways asking the poor/marginalized to trade immediate necessity for future opportunities, and they've been asked to do that for one cycle too many especially when the last one ended in potus djt. i don't agree with this belief but i'm a cishet white guy with a white collar job so
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Postby laserblast » Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:32 pm

doesn't matter tho cause she's gonna win, probably by a bunch
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Postby saranclaps » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:05 am

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Postby walt » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:23 am

tgk wrote:


I’ve asked this before, but what is it with these people and fucking “debate?” This whole cottage industry of Poly Sci B students who spend the rest of their lives lusting after a red-faced argument with a person too busy trying to actually accomplish something to even give a shit that they exist.
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Postby Sweet Gregory Pectin » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:25 am

i got a debate for you right here

go fuck yourself

case dismissed
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Postby walt » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:29 am

futurist wrote:
palmer eldritch wrote:is Michigan an especially misogynistic place or something?


not more than anywhere else, but compared to El-Sayed a lot of people seem to be portraying Whitmer as an establishment politician for white suburbanites.

i for one am not particularly upset if this means giving democrats a broader appeal to annihilate Schuette.


She won a plurality of votes in the state, and dem turnout was like 120k higher than GOP turnout. Dems also out-voted GOP in Macomb and Kent - two big counties that went Trump in 16. I get why people are nervous after things went so sideways in 16, but last night was full of very good signs despite El Sayed losing.
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Postby walt » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:31 am

walt wrote:
futurist wrote:
palmer eldritch wrote:is Michigan an especially misogynistic place or something?


not more than anywhere else, but compared to El-Sayed a lot of people seem to be portraying Whitmer as an establishment politician for white suburbanites.

i for one am not particularly upset if this means giving democrats a broader appeal to annihilate Schuette.


She won a plurality of votes in the state, and dem turnout was like 120k higher than GOP turnout. Dems also out-voted GOP in Macomb and Kent - two big counties that went Trump in 16. I get why people are nervous after things went so sideways in 16, but last night was full of very good signs despite El Sayed losing.


Also noted Saginaw is a real swing area. GOP out-voted by like 600 but fall student registration could push that county blue again very easily.
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Postby spix et chicho » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:36 am

walt wrote:
tgk wrote:


I’ve asked this before, but what is it with these people and fucking “debate?” This whole cottage industry of Poly Sci B students who spend the rest of their lives lusting after a red-faced argument with a person too busy trying to actually accomplish something to even give a shit that they exist.


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Postby guidance » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:37 am

they “found” 190 more votes for o’connor in franklin county. after absentee and provisional i could see things being flipped.

maybe a pipe dream but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Postby saranclaps » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:47 am

walt wrote:
tgk wrote:


I’ve asked this before, but what is it with these people and fucking “debate?” This whole cottage industry of Poly Sci B students who spend the rest of their lives lusting after a red-faced argument with a person too busy trying to actually accomplish something to even give a shit that they exist.
I was a PoliSci B student and I have no lust for debate.
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Postby walt » Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:39 am

Maybe you should get in on this then
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Postby Hugh » Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:39 am



Going to really enjoy watching Stewart take a 20 point bath on election night.
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Postby tgk » Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:39 am

Once again the cory's of the world coming up short

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Postby endless dave » Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:26 am

walt wrote:
tgk wrote:


I’ve asked this before, but what is it with these people and fucking “debate?” This whole cottage industry of Poly Sci B students who spend the rest of their lives lusting after a red-faced argument with a person too busy trying to actually accomplish something to even give a shit that they exist.


debate is the practice of taking something you have no real stock in and using it as fodder to feel superior to another group of people. it's the entire raison d'etre for people like Shapiro.
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Postby palmer eldritch » Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:39 am

Stewart losing by 20 points would be nice because you might beat Brat and maybe Taylor and/or bigfoot porn guy with that matlrgin
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Postby palmer eldritch » Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:40 am

I think that number is a bit high tho
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Postby manierisme » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:40 pm

it kinds feels like virginia republicans actually want to lose?
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Postby important dentist » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:58 pm

walt wrote:
tgk wrote:


I’ve asked this before, but what is it with these people and fucking “debate?” This whole cottage industry of Poly Sci B students who spend the rest of their lives lusting after a red-faced argument with a person too busy trying to actually accomplish something to even give a shit that they exist.

the answer is that all these people are hucksters trained in arguing in a bad-faith, slippery way that gives stupid people the impression that they are winning the debate

and that, if their proposed opponent either realizes this and declines or just doesn't give a shit, they get to be the victim and tell their idiot followers "her ideas must not be very good since she won't even debate" and they all nod their heads and follow them on twitter and continue their rewatch of the west wing while a nazi burns down their house
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