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Postby object » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:09 pm

It's nstural to have fucked up conflictd takes about this
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Postby object » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:10 pm

Just watch rbe Laura Dern take again and tear your hear out
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Postby forest design » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:26 pm

manvstrees wrote:
internethandle wrote:Simply love to appreciate narratively forwarding violence against women


can we murder this take y/n



y
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Postby object » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:29 pm

I think if there is a definituve take that david lynch thst david lynich is the end then
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Postby object » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:29 pm

Thats the end
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Postby object » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:30 pm

Thats the end then
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Postby object » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:30 pm

Ecerythibg is notlike you think
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Postby internethandle » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:58 pm

object wrote:Ecerythibg is notlike you think


agree
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Postby manvstrees » Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:01 pm

i mean you set me up to roll my eyes at it if you're making flippy little hot take posts
mb you have a solid take
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Postby manvstrees » Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:02 pm

np: i might be wrong
Flutehampton will turn out to have always been relished by women who dwell in or near to the past. This is where The Little Reptiles were digitally collected. In recent decades it has become a popular photographic background whenever a maverick cop marries a hooker with a heart of gold.
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Postby OKterrific » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:06 am

I think he was mocking hutch's idiotic take but yeah it was not worded well
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Postby manvstrees » Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:06 pm

yah i figured i missed something there
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Postby tricksforchips » Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:18 pm

manvstrees wrote:
internethandle wrote:Simply love to appreciate narratively forwarding violence against women


can we murder this take y/n

No. I think it's important to discuss since it has a huge place in this series and all of Lynch's work.
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Postby wollogallu » Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:19 pm

not engaging with violence towards women in lynch is idiotic, "woman in trouble" is literally his self-proclaimed definitive trope and youre just gonna elide it as a bad take?
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Postby naturemorte » Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:31 pm

the violence against women (and general mother/whore, bitch/victim dynamics) in season 3 made it really, really hard to take for me
people want to celebrate this thing because it's a massive, singular, visionary work at a time when things like that just don't happen, but we're all postponing a reckoning that's going to have to happen at some point. i generally feel that the reason we want to be done with that take is because no one's made the argument effectively yet, not that the premise itself is flawed.
but then again people have been voting vertigo to #1 on the movie lists, which is also unacceptable for the same reasons, so maybe that reckoning is a long ways off still
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Postby NegativeCapability » Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:40 pm

These violence against women takes are seriously fucking stupid.
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Postby forest design » Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:46 pm

Please lets not do this...

...again...

...for like the fourth time
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Postby light rail coyote » Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:52 pm

naturemorte wrote:the violence against women (and general mother/whore, bitch/victim dynamics) in season 3 made it really, really hard to take for me
people want to celebrate this thing because it's a massive, singular, visionary work at a time when things like that just don't happen, but we're all postponing a reckoning that's going to have to happen at some point. i generally feel that the reason we want to be done with that take is because no one's made the argument effectively yet, not that the premise itself is flawed.
but then again people have been voting vertigo to #1 on the movie lists, which is also unacceptable for the same reasons, so maybe that reckoning is a long ways off still


i'm not sold on the idea that twin peaks uses violence against women in an exploitative way but i do agree that part of my skepticism is that i've never seen that argument made in a compelling way. it's usually just a list of "here's a bunch of times where there was violence against women" with no examination of context.

also disagree that this isn't worth examining- it's a major theme of lynch's work and as such is fair game.
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Postby wollogallu » Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:53 pm

now now, lets not examine this fucked up trope that cudgels us over and over again throughout this persons entire body of work.. its silly
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Postby manvstrees » Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:58 pm

wollogallu wrote:not engaging with violence towards women in lynch is idiotic, "woman in trouble" is literally his self-proclaimed definitive trope and youre just gonna elide it as a bad take?


im sorry was it stated this way nah it wasn't
Flutehampton will turn out to have always been relished by women who dwell in or near to the past. This is where The Little Reptiles were digitally collected. In recent decades it has become a popular photographic background whenever a maverick cop marries a hooker with a heart of gold.
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Postby wollogallu » Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:59 pm

it has been in this thread, many times

on this very page!
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Postby manvstrees » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:00 pm

in the one i was responding to?
no.

guys can we not
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Postby wollogallu » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:00 pm

we can not

also we can
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Postby wollogallu » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:00 pm

but yeah we better not, bad things could happen!
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Postby manvstrees » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:01 pm

i was missing some sarcasm in the post i first responded to, but there's a way to talk about this stuff outside of hot take land
it's very rarely been pulled off in this thread though.
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Postby wollogallu » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:04 pm

i just plain dont get "guys can we not"'ing the impulse to discuss the problematic of misogyny/violence towards women in lynchs work
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Postby light rail coyote » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:04 pm

i can see that criticism in lynch's other works- i've never been a huge fan of wild at heart for that reason- but i've always found twin peaks at its best to be an incredibly thoughtful rumination on the nature of the personal and societal effects of abuse and trauma and the ways in which those who are complicit in the cycle refuse to come to terms with their own complicity.

one scene from the original that's always stuck with me was ben's insistence that he loved laura even though he's one of the biggest drivers of laura's abuse.
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Postby wollogallu » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:06 pm

I LOVE YOU BUT IVE CHOSEN THE BLACKIE
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Postby manvstrees » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:06 pm

wollogallu wrote:i just plain dont get "guys can we not"'ing the impulse to discuss the problematic of misogyny/violence towards women in lynchs work


well the phrase "narratively forwarding" was used, dingus
so we can prob try doing it well but some takes are clearly in the "can we not, again" category due to them mostly feeling like amateur hr loud/shallow criticisms
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Postby wollogallu » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:08 pm

are you steamed? you seem steamed for some reason
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