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by ripersnifle » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:56 am
steakspoon wrote:sorry if sounds corny fellas but i'll always remember where i was when i heard my first big star song..the internet.
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by OKterrific » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:55 am
bongo wrote:why are people watching this movie and not the snowman
lol I literally just grabbed both from the db before seeing this post
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by bongo » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:59 am
did anyone else guffaw when caleb landry
spins the orange juice straw to burned rockwellToggle Spoilerwhat a fucking trite awful offensive dumb movie
definitely a good example of the "i hate it more and more the more i think about it" film
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by OKterrific » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:40 am
surprised no one has mentioned the scene where she attacks a dentist with his drill and then says something badass to him while standing over him
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by OKterrific » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:41 am
I like that song that plays when Rockwell throws Caleb Landry Jones out the window though
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by aububs » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:42 am
yeah that dentist bit was really cringey
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by kylie minogue » Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:25 pm
i really found this entertaining though also feel i'm being a hypocrite by deservedly dumping on haggis crash so much
i think the criticisms about how it handles police brutality etc. are all fair and yet i also think it literally exists to be an entertaining farce rather than a worthy film reflecting the world back to us
hahaha mad me chuckle that
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by terminus » Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:29 pm
remember when she gripped the wine bottle and we the audience thought she was gonna do something crazy with it
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by banquo » Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:39 am
it was good but mostly sad. awful things are glossed over all the time how is that problematic in a movie
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by criss elliott » Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:49 am
miss black america wrote:i think the criticisms about how it handles police brutality etc. are all fair and yet i also think it literally exists to be an entertaining farce rather than a worthy film reflecting the world back to us
maybe but it's pretty specifically alluding to a bunch of relevant issues and then totally waffling on all of them. it can't pretend it exists in a vaccuum when it's determined not to.
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by vivian darko » Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:04 am
banquo wrote:awful things are glossed over all the time how is that problematic in a movie
Because it enables sympathy for a character we shouldn't feel sympathy for
Or, rather, it enables sympathy for him and prevents the same sympathy for the person he tortured, in a movie which is all about (its flailing attempt at) constantly reattaching the audience's sympathy
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by vivian darko » Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:05 am
Honestly it's fine if you want to write your dumb film along some "look how quickly you can vacillate between repulsion and sympathy" axis, but if you're just using race as a tool to that end...don't?
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by antoine » Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:26 am
i knew you guys would hate this. there's a lot of wonky dialogue that doesn't work but i mostly loved it. it delivers where it counts with the character payoff moments and the performances were all great.
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by antoine » Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:32 am
That being said, if Mcdonagh would lay off the Tarantino bullshit vulgarity and epithets and cheap non-sequitur humor just a little bit i think this would be even better. He wields that stuff really haphazardly and it's annoying because it takes you out of a movie with rock solid characters and plotting.
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by antoine » Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:36 am
He's got that same Nick Pizza renegade, kind of dumb writer-ness about him. There's a lot of True D Season 2 wtf-ness in this movie. But a bunch of the emotional stuff landed for me unlike True D.
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by easy » Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:30 am
wesley morris did an interview recently and one of the things he mentioned was that the only thing he ever hears people who like this say is "the performances were good" and so far that mostly tracks, in my experience
this movie is just sort of, air?? hateful, sardonic air. nothing to say at all.
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by delgriffith » Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:33 am
easy wrote:wesley morris did an interview recently and one of the things he mentioned was that the only thing he ever hears people who like this say is "the performances were good" and so far that mostly tracks, in my experience
this movie is just sort of, air?? hateful, sardonic air. nothing to say at all.
This is my go-to line when discussing it with someone who liked it and who I don't want to have an argument with.
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by goofjan » Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:35 am
godammit, if Rockwell wins an oscar for this can we all just collectively pretend it's for Moon? or hell, even Green Mile?
plz if u get a chanse put some flowrs on algernons grave kthxbye
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by easy » Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:41 am
antoine wrote:it delivers where it counts with the character payoff moments
like this, for example
what does this mean? what payoff moments? like, when the hateful people let go of their hate towards like, black people and the town sheriff, and find a new outlet for their hate, by murdering roaming criminals?
there's no thesis here whatsoever. there aren't even basic ideas. as far as I can tell this movie is just a collection of bad monologues about topical hot-button issues with f words.
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by goofjan » Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:44 am
easy wrote:just a collection of bad monologues about topical hot-button issues with f words.
so... a play?
plz if u get a chanse put some flowrs on algernons grave kthxbye
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by Honk For Dracula » Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:54 am
it felt so masturbatory in a writerly way. just constantly calling attention to the ostentatious dialogue and "whoa, we contain multitudes, didja realize that?" which is the sort of bullshit the Academy eats right up. this is gonna win the Best Picture - puke
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by delgriffith » Sat Feb 10, 2018 12:15 pm
It's really tough picking the worst monologue but my mind keeps drifting back to the Crips/Bloods/Catholics speech.
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by Pops Freshenmeyer » Sat Feb 10, 2018 12:18 pm
underrated awful moment(s) is any voiceover by woody harrelson
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by aububs » Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:28 pm
my step mother thinks martin mcdonagh is a psychopath
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by easy » Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:31 pm
you mean there's 8!?
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by jefe górgory » Sat Feb 10, 2018 4:09 pm
delgriffith wrote:It's really tough picking the worst monologue but my mind keeps drifting back to the Crips/Bloods/Catholics speech.
hands down the culpable one yeah. just felt like a "whoa, we've already eviscerated police brutality/law enforcement apathy, let's take on the church too"
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by antoine » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:10 pm
I watched goodfellas a bunch this weekend and it does make this movie seem pretty shitty by comparison. the tones are obviously different though so maybe that's a dumb comparison. anyway i'm pretty sure the thesis is "violence begets violence" or whatever, which, sure, is trite but i think is handled fine. i can see how this is a really easy (heh) movie to hate on and i understand the criticisms, but i still think it's good for what it is. i don't buy the "hot button issue" critique really though. i think it's more of a character study centered around grey areas and moral ambiguities. and i just like that stuff. i can see how people who love to be on "the right side" would hate something like this, which is kind of ironic.
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by walt whitman » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:31 pm
Celiac Cruz wrote:delgriffith wrote:It's really tough picking the worst monologue but my mind keeps drifting back to the Crips/Bloods/Catholics speech.
hands down the culpable one yeah. just felt like a "whoa, we've already eviscerated police brutality/law enforcement apathy, let's take on the church too"
yeah this is such sanctimonious/ridiculous horseshit. fuck this racist pro-cop movie
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by mellowgold » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:39 pm
yeah its a good speech and so well acted and its great in a vacuum but it makes no sense in the context of the film lol
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by vivian darko » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:57 pm
Wait, this movie is about moral ambiguity?
My god
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