Do we have a thread about the opioid epidemic?

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Postby Johan POOPLER » Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:26 am

one time i ordered a bunch of methadone off the silk road with the intention of killing myself but i took a little taste and puked for hours. but if i had done it and then the silk road/hpn connection came out it would have been cool to have lived by the board and died by the board.....
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so what did he have to say about manly attraction to sheep?

i dunno. it's a very sad aspect of our nature, but also one of the foundations of love

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Postby . » Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:32 am

i always read about people getting hooked after like one use but i've done that dozens of times without much effect but a good time

it's of course a horrifying thing, what would it take to go from "oh, fuckin cool time" to "i can't stop"

i mean i dunno i'm drinking my fifth gin+lime after committing to sobriety so maybe i should check my logs
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Postby Johan POOPLER » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:10 am

you just have to have enough to get real high for like a week straight, and also have a bad week
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so what did he have to say about manly attraction to sheep?

i dunno. it's a very sad aspect of our nature, but also one of the foundations of love

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Postby madness and chaos » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:17 pm

https://www.facebook.com/8770211279/videos/10155764036806280/

new season of intervention deals completely with the opioid epidemic and even though I see/deal with this daily in recovery, all the problems and death, etc, I think it'll be good for people to see
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Postby madness and chaos » Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:29 am

weird, i was the last one to post

here it is

https://openload.co/f/Ra_V9wX8Vyw
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Postby wario lopez » Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:31 pm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2018/01/31/a-town-of-3200-was-flooded-with-21-million-pain-pills-as-addiction-crisis-worsened-lawmakers-say/?utm_term=.7513b4dce336

Over the past decade, nearly 21 million prescription painkillers have been shipped to a tiny town in West Virginia, a state where more people have overdosed on opioids and died than in any other in the nation.

The House Energy and Commerce Committee, which has been investigating the opioid epidemic, revealed that 20.8 million hydrocodone and oxycodone pills have been delivered to Williamson, W.Va., a town with a community college, a rail yard — and fewer than 3,200 residents, according to the most recent Census figures.

That's more than 6,500 pills per person
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Postby Merciel » Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:07 am

I'm putting together a big presentation on the proposed Philly safe injection site for work. I have a professor coming in from Boston and am trying to get some of the local public health representatives and people from a harm reduction group to come in too.

It's been a fair amount of work but has been pretty fun as a side project. I hope the presentation goes well.
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Postby pantsoclock » Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:10 am

my girlfriend asks if you can say who is coming in from boston she might know them.
I pay tax to help pay for things like police..fire..parks..but it goes to Ferguson like people and foreigners who are scamming our stupid government that is full of pasta thieves like this guy
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Postby Fullscreen » Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:12 am

Merciel no joke you're a fucking hero.
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Postby Merciel » Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:14 am

pantsoclock wrote:my girlfriend asks if you can say who is coming in from boston she might know them.


Professor Rebecca Stone from Suffolk University. She's done some interesting research focused specifically on substance-abusing pregnant women, the barriers they face in trying to get treatment for themselves and their future kids, and what policies are most effective in helping them (spoiler: criminalizing substance abuse while pregnant is not one of them!).

The new administration has already expressed its support for the safe injection proposal, so what I'm focusing on is mostly explaining the current research on best policies and combining that with an on-the-ground perspective to convince the current ADAs that this is a good idea and they should get on board, and maybe pre-emptively address some of their concerns and point up some of the ethical dilemmas they might face (e.g., what do you do if a visibly pregnant woman wants to use the safe injection site?).
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Postby pantsoclock » Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:31 am

My girlfriend asked me to share this (she wrote it):
1) RAD. Rad rad rad.
2) Josh Sharfstein and Sean Allen from JHU were very recently involved in the drafting of West Virginia's state opioid response plan, and universal, comprehensive access to contraception was listed as one of the 12 or so explicit goals of the plan, along with other expected things like expanding MAT access, naloxone distribution, etc. I was super impressed, because I've not yet seen a state so overtly, explicitly give reproductive health such an explicit role in the opioid conversation. And, fuck, if West Virginia can get that shit done, there is hope for the rest of us. I thought this worth mentioning only because you said you were entering the capital of the republic of hand-wringing-moral-panic, aka NAS.
3) It's hard to do better than the current DA in Philly if you are looking for allies, but if you ever find yourself in need of some muscle on the law enforcement front, I work closely with Jerry Daley, the director of the HIDTA whose area of responsibility includes the state of PA. We were just in a meeting with him and Kendra Vines from Philly DPH last week. He's a crusty old cop, but he's so astonishingly reasonable, and a team player, and is willing to be proved wrong by data, and law enforcement listens to him. I'm happy to volunteer him to go to bat on your behalf if it would be of any assistance.
4) Oh man I love discovering new harm reductionists whose work/geography overlaps with my own lets pretty please talk shop sometime. Something something about good people and Voltron.
5) Oh man that Steve Erikson avatar what."
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Postby Jefferson Zeppelin » Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:40 am

great thread. I don’t know much about this subject but I’m learning a lot. Thanks for all your contributions.
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Postby average deceiver » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:21 am

madness and chaos wrote:weird, i was the last one to post

here it is

https://openload.co/f/Ra_V9wX8Vyw


thank you for posting this
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Postby average deceiver » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:26 am

merciel, it goes without saying that you're rad as fuck and I hope some good comes from all of your effort
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Postby razzle » Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:39 pm

It kind of feels like the damage is already done. Just thinking about how many people Ive known in life who have died or significantly had their lives altered by it. This is not normal and I hate seeing the trope that it is a white person problem.
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Postby Merciel » Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:47 pm

razzle wrote:It kind of feels like the damage is already done.


It's like any ongoing epidemic, as long as there are new victims then the damage isn't done as to those people, even if others are already dead or beyond help.

People didn't quit working on AIDS just because some of its victims had already died.

I mean I know what you're saying, but fatalism is so pervasive around any big problem that it's worth remembering that we can and do make progress on most of these things in time.
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Postby Merciel » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:20 am

edit because I'm a wimp

but also because who knows where any of this is headed
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Postby gershon » Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:37 pm

I spoke in the Arizona House of Representatives in support of the syringe access bill HB2389 and outed myself as a volunteer for the unauthorized syringe access program in Phoenix. I loved that the Reps were looking at their cell phones until I mentioned that. I got drilled and loved answering their questions. The bill passed in the Health Committee and moves to a House floor vote soon.

Our exchange program had a front page cover story in AZ’s main newspaper, The Arizona Republic today. Thankfully, my chubby mug pic online wasn’t used:
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2018/02/19/illegal-needle-exchanges-increasingly-popular-arizona/312857002/
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Postby gershon » Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:44 pm

Merciel wrote:
razzle wrote:It kind of feels like the damage is already done.


It's like any ongoing epidemic, as long as there are new victims then the damage isn't done as to those people, even if others are already dead or beyond help.

People didn't quit working on AIDS just because some of its victims had already died.

I mean I know what you're saying, but fatalism is so pervasive around any big problem that it's worth remembering that we can and do make progress on most of these things in time.


The AIDS volunteers and activists in the 80s and 90s are some of syringe access/exchange groups’ inspirations. and underground groups like the Jane collective who performed abortions for women in Chicago when it was illegal to do so.

We handed out 15,000 naloxone (narcan) kits to people who use drugs and their family members doing street outreach just last year and heard reports back that 2,201 lives were saved using them. And those are just the ones we heard from.
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Postby madness and chaos » Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:45 pm

^^^ this is amazing! thank you!
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