mariavesperi wrote:the plot was nonexistent too though
so we don't experience anything meaningful about the other IP (the Shining part being 'not about the shining at all!' but also all the cameo stuff)Toggle Spoiler, seems like a waste of a transmedia opportunity but fine,
but then there's no 'there' there: the actual plot is exactly what you'd assume happens without seeing the movie, the good guy wins the bad guy loses, the boy kisses the cute girl (which as far as edifying conventions, the whole 'no it's okay I do think you're cute enough' thing is truly barfola)Toggle Spoiler
So we end up not getting nothing meaningful out of both the superficial 'remix culture' bullshit nor the actual 'plot'. Like why the fuck am I spoilering 'the good guy wins' in a Spielberg joint
for real though I read some more of this thread after making that post, seems like a lot of the heavy lifting has been done already.
I did spend a lot of time smashing my obi-wan action figure into my friend's one-armed Bebop in third grade
I think your problem is more with the world-building, not the plot. The plot is basically a gamified Charlie and the chocolate factory, and it never really missed a beat with that.
Edit: I actually realize Charlie and the chocolate factory is a bad comparison but it's the first thing that came to mind and I don't feel like explain ing what the plot of this movie is.
it's not a bad comparison at all. it's exactly what spielberg had in mind, it's why he initially reached out to Gene Wilder to play Halladay before he died.
That was a really dumb movie. Although I had it explained to me the whole ride home about how nerd culture important it was. Whatever floats your boat, I suppose. People clapped at the end and someone exclaimed "WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!"
The 10-year-olds birthday group behind spilled their gourds when minecraft world popped up, they also clapped like maniacs at the end and their charisma just kinda effused through audience until about most of the audience was whistling and clapping along with em. I loved how all the central characters in this universe just live a block from one another. Loved the dog shit regurgitation of Locus Solus and the multifaceted levels of world building and character development. Loved the end battle where Yoda was riding on Vin Diesel's back.
Saw this, didn't hate it for some reason. It reminded me of Toys with Robin Williams, another weird and bad movie that I don't hate but makes me viscerally uncomfortable
And I feel like this year is really about, just the year of realizing stuff.
I think, like a lot of movies being made these days (Pacific Rim Uprising is another example) this film was made for 13-17 year old teenagers. So if you're an adult and are watching thIs now it comes across as unbelievable and childish but it's confusing because there are so many 80's themes and references in it that are still enjoyed and revered by now 30-50 year old man-children.
It's like Spielberg created a movie for kids still living in 1985.
driving around late at night, listening to depeche mode
deadwolfbones wrote:I had a good time with this despite it being objectively stupid
spiels basically did as well with the material as he possibly could have. and kaminsky fucking rules without exception. but aspects of this story are gross in an unsalvageable way, the “romance” in this movie in particular was repulsive. the whole enterprises is just inherently and inescapably flawed but i have to admit that it’s not actively hateful like i thought it would be and even kind of fun in stretches.
idk whatever this movie does not really warrant thoughtful analysis. viewing it really stoned would probably alleviate some of the embarrassment that’s the best way to watch it