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Postby grammatron » Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:28 am

The lyrics on all three of these singles are really substandard.
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Postby Tom Cruise » Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:43 am

Ya the lyric videos really aren't a great idea
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Postby DAT TRILL FRIEND FRITZL » Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:50 am

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Postby mellowgold » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:40 am

This is ok. Idk what she’s doing.
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Postby mellowgold » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:40 am

lmao
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Postby ripersnifle » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:46 am

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Postby ripersnifle » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:48 am

production kinda clashes with the ... songwriting(?)
feels kinda like a Red-era song, to me, that'd benefit from that era's production.
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Postby odilonredon » Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:09 am

the new persona sucks shit and i still loathe "look what you made me do", it casts a pall over this whole album cycle-but i kind of like this one
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Postby mellowgold » Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:11 am

This is like she tried to make a chvrches song? idk max martin is phoning it in tho

i hate the percussion on this
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Postby odilonredon » Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:14 am

Marx & Engels wrote:I feel like this would be a really good song with 1989-era production (and uh lyrics)

Still the best single thus far tho


yeah. this is not half bad but had potential to be great with different arrangement and production. you can really feel the old (better) taylor swift peaking out from underneath the morass of new (shitty) taylor swift on this one.
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Postby mead » Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:22 am

yeah. i like it but it feels out of step & reeks of the leftovers rack

the choruses with the lingering "goooorgasss" is a bit of a howler
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Postby separator » Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:27 am

lyrical tone doesn't match production at all
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Postby Vegetable » Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:02 am

ripersnifle wrote:Dark Room
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Postby Vegetable » Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:04 am

I kinda like it but yeah the percussion is bad. I wonder what percent conscious she is of all this though. The lyrics not matching the tone is one of the most interesting things about the song, intentional or not.
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Postby the scofflaw » Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:24 am

just feels like the sort of cut/paste jobs that are the result of not really having anything great coming together organically, like the early tracks indicate that this album seems more a product of "hey i need to put an album out and we've been fiddling with these tracks for months" and less of the "i'm inspired to push into this particular sonic direction" boldness that the 1989 roll-out showcased. the feud-driven concept thing seems a little thin to carry an entire album and might account for why the lyrics seem particularly forced.
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Postby mellowgold » Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:50 am

the stumble home to my cats line is sooooo bad
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Postby mead » Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:54 am

mellowgold wrote:the stumble home to my cats line is sooooo bad


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Postby mellowgold » Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:55 am

lol

also is this her idea of making Adult Music? saying "bitch" in the LWYMMD video and now singing about being drunk? i mean ok cool but...idk its so forced
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Postby grace cathedral park » Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:56 am

This song felt like it lasted forever
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Postby grammatron » Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:45 pm

Yeah this song is fine and would probably be elevated in the context of an album like Red or 1989. We'll see how it fits into this album. I really hate the feud concept and this whole persona, though. It just feels like a misfire in every way, and the much better way to make the point she's trying to make would've been to ignore her reputation completely and just put out a great record of sophisticated pop with quality lyrics and musical variety. Given the stylistic transition over her career, I'd much rather her (and think she'd ultimately be more successful long term) just keep creating what she's feeling musically, ignoring modern trends and just pushing in whichever direction her creativity leads her rather than falling into the adult/urban/more aggressive pop mode she seems to be falling into.
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Postby Ersaph » Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:48 pm

I like all of the songs so far
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Postby someguy » Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:55 pm

grammatron wrote:Yeah this song is fine and would probably be elevated in the context of an album like Red or 1989. We'll see how it fits into this album. I really hate the feud concept and this whole persona, though. It just feels like a misfire in every way, and the much better way to make the point she's trying to make would've been to ignore her reputation completely and just put out a great record of sophisticated pop with quality lyrics and musical variety. Given the stylistic transition over her career, I'd much rather her (and think she'd ultimately be more successful long term) just keep creating what she's feeling musically, ignoring modern trends and just pushing in whichever direction her creativity leads her rather than falling into the adult/urban/more aggressive pop mode she seems to be falling into.


If this happened she would be heavily criticized as it falls into her image of avoiding topics like politics in order to broaden her appeal.

Like if she ignored the feuds and just made straight up sophisticated pop as you put it she would just be trashed as continuing to be fake, a snake, etc.

But I agree with you, long term it would work out for her because the music would have a more lasting impact than this Kanye/Kim/Katy feud. Now she's gone and made an entire album dedicated to that, thereby solidifying the reputation she never wanted.
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Postby grammatron » Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:03 pm

That's the thing though. She's gonna be trashed regardless. This just plays into her image of being petty. She's not subverting her image like she did on "Blank Space", she's playing right into it. I guess you could argue the end of the LWYMMD video is subverting it a little, but that doesn't seem to be the overall tone of the record. And very few pop artists address politics in their music. No one really expects her to do that.

So yeah, I agree w/ your last point. I think she'd fare better overall if she pulled herself out of this nonsense.
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Postby ripersnifle » Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:24 pm

"blank space" feels like a masterclass compared to some of this stuff imo
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Postby gordie blue eyes » Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:38 pm

i...really don't like this. had to bail like 2 minutes in. :(
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Postby gordie blue eyes » Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:41 pm

for context i enjoy the first two singles and also all sorts of other dumb bullshit
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Postby Seamus » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:08 pm

not sure why people are making excuses for this song, it's woeful
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Postby Brevity » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:12 pm

We go through this literally every time she releases a new song and then eventually everybody decides it's okay
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Postby Brevity » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:13 pm

So let me say: this song is okay
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Postby internethandle » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:14 pm

i'm on team these songs are bad but that being said it really is impressive how much cache she has culturally. i've heard this song upwards of 10 times today already without trying.
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