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Postby snuggle » Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:09 pm

So I’ve had a couple tracks up on the insight timer for about a year now. I’ve really enjoyed the app and it has felt good to give back in a way to that electronic community.

But I’ve noticed they’ve been implementing ways for the teachers and artists to get paid. Now they have courses available for download at a fee.

And yesterday I received an email that they are trying to allow artists to get donations from their listeners. They’ll take 15%, I’ll (the artists, guided meditators) will get 85%.

Any donators will appear on your “gratitude wall.”

Problem is, android accepted their idea to take donations, but Apple didn’t! That’s crazy.

Anyway, what I’m getting at is I don’t feel comfortable taking donations for some reason, within this community structure. I haven’t spent a lot of time thinking it through though, but my intuition is just upset. I don’t think I want to see a donation button for my music on a meditation app.

But I have my music up on bandcamp, for “name your price.” People can download it for free. Would I like money and in some sense a little recognition? Yes. It would be cool to get a few bones for an album. Now I’m really confused
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Postby terrific bedwetter » Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:36 pm

I would have no problem accepting support from people who appreciate my work in... basically any context

is there a way to just opt out of that so there is no button? maybe contact the dev if you feel like it
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Postby marble » Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:50 pm

take the money
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Postby terrific bedwetter » Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:59 pm

papabones wrote:
wolfie wrote:
papabones wrote:What's in front of your face isn't fun and games, ultimately. It's a terror


This is a hell of a way to go through life.


I appreciate how you took this out of context.


re-read the last 4 pages and consider how you posted... in the thread

in my honest opinion, you misread a heap of shit and went off on a tear




and i dont like you so take that
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Postby terrific bedwetter » Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:01 pm

tb rolls in, quotes some weeks old posts, lays down his law


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Postby snuggle » Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:02 pm

marble wrote:take the money


Ok ok
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Postby internethandle » Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:41 pm

yeah, i also say take the money. you can read up on dana if you want to feel better about it. it's supposed to be as much for the benefit of the person giving as the person receiving, if not more so, basically. another form of practice.
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Postby madness and chaos » Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:38 pm

i had to have my therapist talk me down from some massive drug shit this past week and he told me to plug my right nostril and only breathe out of my left and it calmed me down so fucking much. Taught me some other pranayama through text and some breath holding techniques and I swear these are the secrets to the world and definitely to mental health. I swear I just don't breathe right
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Postby internethandle » Mon Aug 20, 2018 12:26 am

if you respond well to diaphragmatic breathing/other controlled techniques there's a pretty good pranayama app for your phone that has you build up to longer and longer outbreaths held to a tone it plays that i've used some

also in terms of doing so while meditating a lot of zen traditions (not so much vipassana, which traditionally tends to tell you to not control the breath) have controlled breathing techniques that incorporate rather interesting visualizations re: the breath energy (qi) being concentrated in a specific place below the navel (tanden, also has other names in other traditions/cultures) and flowing up back through the head along a meridian etc. that reflect zen's interfacing with taoism/qi gong/other traditions - more here from the late maezumi roshi:

https://www.lionsroar.com/what-are-we-ignoring-about-breathing/

this video also touches on it (make sure subtitles are on):

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Postby madness and chaos » Mon Aug 20, 2018 12:31 am

internethandle wrote:if you respond well to diaphragmatic breathing/other controlled techniques there's a pretty good pranayama app for your phone that has you build up to longer and longer outbreaths held to a tone it plays that i've used some

also in terms of doing so while meditating a lot of zen traditions (not so much vipassana, which traditionally tends to tell you to not control the breath) have controlled breathing techniques that incorporate rather interesting visualizations re: the breath energy (qi) being concentrated in a specific place below the navel (tanden, also has other names in other traditions/cultures) and flowing up back through the head along a meridian etc. that reflect zen's interfacing with taoism/qi gong/other traditions - more here from the late maezumi roshi:

https://www.lionsroar.com/what-are-we-ignoring-about-breathing/

this video also touches on it (make sure subtitles are on):



this stuff is pure gold. do you know the name of that app by chance?
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Postby internethandle » Mon Aug 20, 2018 12:34 am

this one:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/universal-breathing-pranayama-lite/id435871685?mt=8

if you have android hopefully it's also available...
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Postby madness and chaos » Mon Aug 20, 2018 12:35 am

internethandle wrote:this one:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/universal-breathing-pranayama-lite/id435871685?mt=8

if you have android hopefully it's also available...


Yeah, my phone died during this past week. Maybe I'll get an iPhone again. It's been a while. Thank you for this!
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Postby internethandle » Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:36 am

i'd really like to get into subtle body/lung practices but vajrayana feels all but impenetrable without a lot of dedication and a guide when you're coming from a vipassana background. might just do some qi gong.

doing a 8 day retreat from 12/29 to 1/6 (so, through the new year), which will be my longest one by more than double. am excited!
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Postby a falsetto child » Mon Dec 24, 2018 9:31 pm

Picked this up last week and started in on it during this long weekend. Curious if anyone else has read it and their opinions if so. Seems really well-reviewed.

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Finished Everyday Zen by Charlotte Joko Beck before it and it was one of the better books I read this year. Will be seeking out more of her stuff.
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Postby a falsetto child » Mon Dec 24, 2018 9:32 pm

Report back on the retreat, internethandle. Hope it's a productive one.
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Postby Chyet » Mon Dec 24, 2018 9:49 pm

I own the book and find it very helpful.

I like how he breaks down the tiers of meditation and I like to review the chapter for where I think I'm generally at before meditation. He has lots of free guided meditations at dharmatreasure.org. he isn't a replacement for spiritual aspects of meditation but has really supplemented my practice.
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Postby a falsetto child » Mon Dec 24, 2018 10:02 pm

Thanks, Cheyt. I'll check out the site.
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Postby internethandle » Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:13 am

yeah TMI/culadasa is very big right now. if having a goal-oriented practice is something that you feel you can handle without getting too caught up in expectation mind/checking mind/self-criticism then it definitely seems worthwhile. his methodology is really sound, at least, and his experience/knowledge base extremely solid.

i'll definitely report back after the retreat. it's with my favorite teacher - shinzen young - so i'm both intimidated and excited. good to see you're still practicing, chachi. keep it up! what fires together wires together and all that.
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Postby a falsetto child » Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:11 am

A lot of the reviews I read were from long-time meditators who said they wish they had this book early on in their practice. I'm at a year of practicing, so my hope is TMI can help me build on my foundation to create a solid, long-term practice.

My wife got me a cushion for Christmas, which should hopefully help with tackling longer sits.
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Postby The Priest » Tue Dec 25, 2018 10:08 am

Been doing this the whole year and it's absolutely helpful

Going to join a weekly meditation thing in Brooklyn that my wife is worried will be a cult
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Postby a falsetto child » Tue Dec 25, 2018 10:37 am

It isn’t a cult unless you have to change clothes.
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Postby bear » Tue Dec 25, 2018 10:47 pm

I do a weekly recovery meditation meeting, it rules
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Postby The Priest » Tue Dec 25, 2018 10:47 pm

i'm fine with it being a cult
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Postby bear » Tue Dec 25, 2018 10:52 pm

"my brain NEEDS a good washing"
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Postby The Priest » Tue Dec 25, 2018 10:55 pm

look if it takes a cult to make my brain not pure poison i'll take it
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Postby woozy ducks » Tue Dec 25, 2018 10:56 pm

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Postby Chyet » Wed Dec 26, 2018 2:35 pm

I joined the insight timer group!
Thread motivated me to jump back in after losing it during campaign work.

Good sessions so far, in several stages at once as i knock off the cobwebs
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Postby a falsetto child » Wed Dec 26, 2018 3:16 pm

Welcome aboard! Some lively discussions in there.

Some say it is better than Hipinion!
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Postby carlagain » Wed Dec 26, 2018 3:27 pm

I like Stephen Procter’s excercises on insight timer, they’ve been my introduction to meditation in general. Any suggestions for good stuff on insight timer?
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