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Postby Kenny » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:19 pm

Is there any evidence of Apple slowing down after Steve Jobs died? I was wondering how much of apple was his leverage
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Postby Rainbow Battle Kid » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:25 pm

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Postby Autarch » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:27 pm

Don't sleep on Lockheed Martin.
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Postby Bad craziness » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:30 pm

Bezos absolutely has the grit to dominate this kind of scenario

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Alphabet has the information advantage, but yeah Amazon has the resources cornered for basic survival needs

then again Larry Page would finally get to make his technocratic island nation

I would apply for citizenship on Google Island and I'd have Amazon Prime Indentured Servitude™ as a fallback
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Postby Kenny » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:37 pm

Amazon is strung up by not having it's own OS, but otherwise would wipe the floor with everybody
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Postby Spoilt Victorian Child » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:42 pm

I'm in Johnson & Johnson territory and it probably wouldn't be a bad idea for me to stay there, but I bet The Apple Country would be a lot sexier.
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Postby brittle » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:47 pm

Autarch wrote:Don't sleep on Lockheed Martin.

at least i wouldn't have to relocate for this one.
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Postby Science » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:56 pm

Lockheed, Halliburton, Raytheon, all defense contractors are gobbled up by the big time corp-states in this scenario.

Think of Northrup Grumman as Microsoft's Puerto Rico.
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Postby goofjan » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:57 pm

General Mills. I'll happily toil all day in the Cookie Crisp mines.
plz if u get a chanse put some flowrs on algernons grave kthxbye
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Postby light rail coyote » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:08 pm

i hear the weather in kroger is beautiful this time of year
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Postby WeirdJungle » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:09 pm

Mr. Science wrote:Apple's best chance is probably just setting everyone up in a completely self contained ecosystem underground or possibly underwater.


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Postby WeirdJungle » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:12 pm

it's a great lifestyle (if you survive the eugenic purges)
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Postby Esteban » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:23 pm

Amazon I guess. Everyone gets all the prior seasons of curb your enthusiasm with their mandatory Prime™ RFID chips, eh could be worse
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Postby iambic » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:25 pm

amazon's work culture is notoriously awful, and that can't bode well for their work camps
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Postby big zorb » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:28 pm

i'm going to have a little column that all of my fellow citizens of the nation-state of axel-springer will read.
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Postby Bad craziness » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:41 pm

iambic wrote:amazon's work culture is notoriously awful, and that can't bode well for their work camps


yeah I see amazon as corralling people into pods with ruthless efficiency, tens of millions of people with just above bare subsistence

like you get a cot and a water/soylent faucet, but also a giant TV with free access to literally every movie/tv show ever

Google, Facebook and Apple are more likely to take the opportunity to build their own attempts at tech utopias

round up a couple million people either via algorithm or some sort of test/nomination system and get them into literal walled gardens
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Postby the soccer return believer » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:44 pm

Mr. Science wrote:Lockheed, Halliburton, Raytheon, all defense contractors are gobbled up by the big time corp-states in this scenario.

Think of Northrup Grumman as Microsoft's Puerto Rico.


wouldn't the corporations with all the weapons forcibly take over the tech nerds though
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Postby WeirdJungle » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:45 pm

Facebook's arcology is just one huge panopticon
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Postby mascotte » Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:01 pm

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Postby Esteban » Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:03 pm

iambic wrote:amazon's work culture is notoriously awful, and that can't bode well for their work camps


That's a fair assessment, I don't think any of these corps wouldn't do the same tho. Zero chance of a utopia for this reality.
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Postby Science » Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:03 pm

Lucky wrote:
Mr. Science wrote:Lockheed, Halliburton, Raytheon, all defense contractors are gobbled up by the big time corp-states in this scenario.

Think of Northrup Grumman as Microsoft's Puerto Rico.


wouldn't the corporations with all the weapons forcibly take over the tech nerds though


Let's just say the corporate overlords saw it coming and started acquiring the defense firms.
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Postby walt whitman » Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:23 pm

cool thread but hard disagree w the premise that a single company simply won't buy up all the competitors, or some frankenstein assemblage of amazon/alphabet/apple etc
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Postby Autarch » Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:39 pm

Mr. Science wrote:
Lucky wrote:
Mr. Science wrote:Lockheed, Halliburton, Raytheon, all defense contractors are gobbled up by the big time corp-states in this scenario.

Think of Northrup Grumman as Microsoft's Puerto Rico.


wouldn't the corporations with all the weapons forcibly take over the tech nerds though


Let's just say the corporate overlords saw it coming and started acquiring the defense firms.


Of course, the Defense firms are really useless unless you have a lot of oil
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Postby Bad craziness » Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:44 pm

just happened upon this shockingly relevant piece from The Baffler:

https://thebaffler.com/latest/mouthbreathing-machiavellis

One day in March of this year, a Google engineer named Justine Tunney created a strange and ultimately doomed petition at the White House website. The petition proposed a three-point national referendum, as follows:

1. Retire all government employees with full pensions.
2. Transfer administrative authority to the tech industry.
3. Appoint [Google executive chairman] Eric Schmidt CEO of America.

This could easily be written off as stunt, a flamboyant act of corporate kiss-assery, which, on one level, it probably was. But Tunney happened to be serious. “It’s time for the U.S. Regime to politely take its exit from history and do what’s best for America,” she wrote. “The tech industry can offer us good governance and prevent further American decline.”

Welcome to the latest political fashion among the California Confederacy: total corporate despotism. It is a potent and bitter ideological mash that could have only been concocted at tech culture’s funky smoothie bar—a little Steve Jobs here, a little Ayn Rand there, and some Ray Kurzweil for color.
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Postby speakers » Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:58 pm

iambic wrote:
WeirdJungle wrote:Apple makes hundreds of times more profit from each iPhone than google does from Android phones

staking profits on a stylized hunk of plastic, glass and rare earths is such an early 21st century notion

google are information brokers


are you implying that apple doesn't have petabytes of data about everyone/thing?
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Postby identikit » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:02 pm

Lucky wrote:i'm a gazprom boy

yea seems like a good horse in warfare.
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Postby office plant » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:23 pm

WeirdJungle wrote:
Mr. Science wrote:Apple's best chance is probably just setting everyone up in a completely self contained ecosystem underground or possibly underwater.


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I was going to say more like the underwater country in the bojack episode but then i realised that if i lived in the bojack universe i would probably choose to live there
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Postby office plant » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:27 pm

anyway ill be a dual citizen of samsung-hyundai's merger with the korean govt and mr lee's greater hong kong
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Postby Science » Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:04 pm

Samsung probably will be first across the finish line in terms of controlling a geopolitically significant landmass.

I would how much of a leg up that'll give them.
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Postby iambic » Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:11 pm

speakers wrote:
iambic wrote:
WeirdJungle wrote:Apple makes hundreds of times more profit from each iPhone than google does from Android phones

staking profits on a stylized hunk of plastic, glass and rare earths is such an early 21st century notion

google are information brokers


are you implying that apple doesn't have petabytes of data about everyone/thing?

no, just that Google are less concerned about the profitability of the few devices they make than they are the value of the data the devices collect
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