Such a shame Norm was bullied into not apologizing and double downing on her behavior to the point she personally decided on her own accord to leave the board. What a cruel, unrelenting culture the internet has given us.
it's such a shame a boarder that had 20 pages of people telling her how awesome she is was forced to confront two upset boarders. what a horrible toxic place this is.
Such a shame that a boarder that has taken numerous breaks over her board tenure has chosen to take another board break. I'm so worn by the horrors of callout culture, we are clearly on the verge of a civil war.
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Jay Reatard is a pretty problematic stage name, tbh
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brittle wrote:time to ammend the "board's history with treating women" op
to include norm implying that trans women still retain male habits?
I reeeaaalllly don't want to drag this on, but what happened wasn't a personal attack. we live in a transphobic culture. it’s not a targeted insult to alert someone to their echoing of transphobic sentiments. I've been called out for posting and saying sexist comments in the past. I apologized and continually make a conscious effort to eradicate that conditioning from my thoughts, speech & behavior. I'm still friends with those people who called me out and value that this community has people willing to do that extra work.
no one ever said they wanted norm banished from the board. she's obviously welcome here and the majority of boarders either don't see the problematic doubling-down on transphobic comments or they deliberately choose to not care about it! it's disingenuous to say that people berated her and it's not helpful to making this community a safer & more tolerant space. I doubt that's what boarders like riverchrist care about, though.
many are quick to point to these arguments as power-battles between hostile factions on the board. that's not only misleading, it frames any pushback on intolerant language as petty, calculated and opportunistic. there's not much utility in once again instigating this argument when one party isn't present and I wish people would think twice before neatly wrapping this up as more proof of cruel tone-policing.
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brittle wrote:time to ammend the "board's history with treating women" op
to include norm implying that trans women still retain male habits?
I reeeaaalllly don't want to drag this on, but what happened wasn't a personal attack. we live in a transphobic culture. it’s not a targeted insult to alert someone to their echoing of transphobic sentiments. I've been called out for posting and saying sexist comments in the past. I apologized and continually make a conscious effort to eradicate that conditioning from my thoughts, speech & behavior. I'm still friends with those people who called me out and value that this community has people willing to do that extra work.
no one ever said they wanted norm banished from the board. she's obviously welcome here and the majority of boarders either don't see the problematic doubling-down on transphobic comments or they deliberately choose to not care about it! it's disingenuous to say that people berated her and it's not helpful to making this community a safer & more tolerant space. I doubt that's what boarders like riverchrist care about, though.
many are quick to point to these arguments as power-battles between hostile factions on the board. that's not only misleading, it frames any pushback on intolerant language as petty, calculated and opportunistic. there's not much utility in once again instigating this argument when one party isn't present and I wish people would think twice before neatly wrapping this up as more proof of cruel tone-policing.
I'm 100% sympathetic and on board with this post. Tolerance above all; I didn't mean to stir the pot or point fingers or anything.
It was a cheap, easy joke; and probably tasteless, but there is still something eyebrow raising about how the norm situation fit the historic pathology of the board. I thought it was worth pointing out on case anyone missed it.
thanks for your valuable contributions to the Discourse dude
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I said: What she sad was bad but she wasn't being malicious, we shouldn't go for the throat so much and that everybody does it so I'm not saying it's the Board Friends that are to blame and that it was bad but she was speaking her feelings without being malicious and we should listen because as we all love to say we don't listen to women very much. We should have just talked about it.
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grace cathedral park wrote:you've echoed the same shit people have said a hundred times now i don't know what you fucking want
Not to have my posts deleted just because it's not incindiary
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Kenny wrote:I said: What she sad was bad but she wasn't being malicious, we shouldn't go for the throat so much and that everybody does it so I'm not saying it's the Board Friends that are to blame and that it was bad but she was speaking her feelings without being malicious and we should listen because as we all love to say we don't listen to women very much. We should have just talked about it.
fuck off, petty.
that's exactly how this all began. people tried to patiently talk to her about their grievances. and then other people tried to patiently talk to her about why those people were offended. and she acted like an asshole about it the entire time.
you're erasing the numerous amounts of hand holding, second chances, and good faith that boarders who were actually hurt by her posts gave her.
I don't think she acted like an asshole. It's weird how there are different perspectives. I think you're putting that on her. I think she was off base but I think her years of good boarding and being an obvious good person offset a situation where she wasn't being as aware as she could have been.
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Like I'm agreeing with you that she was in the wrong, but you're acting like I'm a piece of shit here because I don't think she was a bad person because of it
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people fucking ROASTED me over joking about dalen's child. he wasn't even offended by that. and yet i got shit for twenty pages about how fucked up my post was.
and then norm makes a joke, BECAUSE ALL NORM DOES IS JOKES, that actually offended someone and somehow norm is the victim because she doesn't want to apologize?
i'm not saying she's a bad person or you have to think she's a bad person
i just think you don't need to keep saying how awesome norm is. it's already known. you're delegitimizing the pain that whips experienced by continuing to harp on this bullshit like a month after all of it went down.
I think that was wrong for them to roast you too! All I want is in the post that you fucking deleted because you felt like it
I think the board is less now that she's gone and I think it's bad that we constantly go for the throat. I think we have to be able to coexist with people we disagree with even if they fuck up on occaision because we can sense that they are decent or trying to be decent. She's not an enemy of yours, or probably anybody on this board
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