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Postby freezinseason » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:19 pm

glad people are turning away from postmodernism and rediscovering good old marxism-leninism
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Postby Annie May » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:24 pm

ok sisson idk if you know but jordan peterson isn't a marxist-leninist he's just a transphobic reactionary
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Postby freezinseason » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:26 pm

Annie May wrote:ok sisson idk if you know but jordan peterson isn't a marxist-leninist he's just a transphobic reactionary


it was a joke about peterson's other big bogeyman and the intellectual lineage of postmodernism. i know who peterson is. :D
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Postby Annie May » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:27 pm

oh heck
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Postby freezinseason » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:29 pm

Annie May wrote:oh heck


its ok, i have a pretty stupid sense of humour. not much of a punch line in that one.
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Postby murray st. » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:31 pm

i deeply fear this guy is going to hit it big in the states with the middle-upper-class pseud bro contingent soon
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Postby blues » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:32 pm

just wanna say good luck to anyone on this board who thinks this guy has some good things to say ps he is not transphobic as far as i can tell
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Postby blues » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:33 pm

murray st. wrote:i deeply fear this guy is going to hit it big in the states with the middle-upper-class pseud bro contingent soon

this already happened
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Postby freezinseason » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:34 pm

blues wrote:just wanna say good luck to anyone on this board who thinks this guy has some good things to say ps he is not transphobic as far as i can tell


yes, also good luck to those who cannot tell the difference between bleach and milk.
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Postby Autarch » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:35 pm

blues wrote:
murray st. wrote:i deeply fear this guy is going to hit it big in the states with the middle-upper-class pseud bro contingent soon

this already happened


yeah, some of my friends like him, unfortunately.
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Postby blues » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:37 pm



lol
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Postby Annie May » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:39 pm

blues wrote:just wanna say good luck to anyone on this board who thinks this guy has some good things to say ps he is not transphobic as far as i can tell

Maybe my fuckin joke radar is broken tonight but if youre being serious he's a transphobe, see his response to bill C-16
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Postby murray st. » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:43 pm

blues wrote:

lol


yep. Make Yourself Great Again for the class-deluded game of thrones fan
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Postby blues » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:44 pm

i will concede to other stuff people don't like about this dude but it's pretty firmly not the case that he hates or is afraid of trans people. his position was that he didn't like the idea of compelled speech and if you watch a few of his vids you can see why he feels that way about it. he points out that it could have been any issue it just happened to be pronouns, but the real issue is compelled speech. i'm not saying i agree with it, that's just his position. take it or leave it but at least watch him defend himself if you haven't already. there's legitimacy to that side of it, imo. not entering into an argument tho
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Postby blues » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:47 pm

i've made a big mistake haven't i
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Postby freezinseason » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:48 pm

most speech is "compelled" in our society. the idea of free speech is liberal nonsense. he's going after trans people because he specifically dislikes them. it's really not hard to understand.
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Postby Annie May » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:50 pm

I get what your saying but i don't think mr. peterson"s 'argument' matters. Regardless of his intent his position on this issue is used to delegitimize trans people. That's what makes him transphobic.
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Postby blues » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:50 pm

alright!
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Postby murray st. » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:52 pm

blues if a point that you feel is worth bringing up is not also worth vigorously defending maybe you should rethink the first part of that equation, tone: sincere
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Postby freezinseason » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:52 pm

blues wrote:alright!


how do you think Peterson would respond if everyone decided to call Peterson "she" or "that womanly looking so-called man" or other belittling remarks about his gender identity? if he had to deal with this constantly he might have a very different viewpoint on the issue, don't you think?
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Postby blues » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:54 pm

@murray st i just want people to look at things properly before they decide whether or not people are bigots. if i have any point it's that. his ideas can speak or not speak for themselves.
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Postby freezinseason » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:55 pm

blues wrote:@murray st i just want people to look at things properly before they decide whether or not people are bigots. if i have any point it's that. his ideas can speak or not speak for themselves.


we've looked at it properly, more properly than you. and we've decided he's stupid, which he is.
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Postby internethandle » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:56 pm

yes
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Postby furrowed brow » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:56 pm

doesn't he misgender his students, too? so much for arguing solely out of principle.
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Postby blues » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:00 pm

sisonfrisson wrote:
blues wrote:@murray st i just want people to look at things properly before they decide whether or not people are bigots. if i have any point it's that. his ideas can speak or not speak for themselves.


we've looked at it properly, more properly than you. and we've decided he's stupid, which he is.

cool, i mean you have no way of telling how much i've listened to what he has to say vs what you've listened to, but if that's the honest truth then i don't have any problem with your opinion on it. if you made up your mind based on some 2 minute video about it then i think it's worth delving deeper. that's all i have to say on it.
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Postby Annie May » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:01 pm

Annie May wrote:I get what your saying but i don't think mr. peterson"s 'argument' matters. Regardless of his intent his position on this issue is used to delegitimize trans people. That's what makes him transphobic.

To be clear i think his intent is transphobic too, but he wants to appear as if he's coming at this from an angle of pure academic discourse.
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Postby freezinseason » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:01 pm

blues wrote:cool, i mean you have no way of telling how much i've listened to what he has to say vs what you've listened to, but if that's the honest truth then i don't have any problem with your opinion on it. if you made up your mind based on some 2 minute video about it then i think it's worth delving deeper. that's all i have to say on it.


can i start recommending some real intellectuals for you to listen to or read? it seems tragic that you might waste more than 2 minutes on peterson's pap.
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Postby blues » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:02 pm

yeah of course
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Postby freezinseason » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:03 pm

blues wrote:yeah of course


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Postby Sobieski » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:10 pm

sisonfrisson wrote:can i start recommending some real intellectuals for you to listen to or read?

yes
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