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Postby apostrophe » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:40 pm

Not sure why, but I've been all about the (extra dirty) gin martini in the last week.

Why do I like this now all of a sudden?
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Postby grammatron » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:43 pm

Cause they're tasty.
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Postby grammatron » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:43 pm

Also cause they'll get you fUcKeD uP.
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Postby apostrophe » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:43 pm

yeah but, i never liked them before this week
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Postby apostrophe » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:44 pm

maybe it's because of gin and not vodka? not sure
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Postby black drum » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:58 pm

Martinis are supposed to be made of gin.
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Postby black drum » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:01 am

A vodka Martini is like a Spanish Porsche it just don't make no sense.

I love martinis. A few measures of gin pointed in the general direction of Italy pinned down with a twist of lemon or an olive, the elixir of quietude, I'm in heaven.
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Postby grammatron » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:08 am

The vodka martini was basically created by Ian Fleming for James Bond. I was under the impression it was a marketing ploy by a vodka distiller w/ the first Bond film, but my quick research just now doesn't back that up.
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Postby Cone » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:37 am

Yeah it really disappointed me when I came of drinking age and learned that James Bond drinks shit martinis
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Postby funkfunkfunk » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:54 am

a) What James Bond drank in Fleming's 'Casino Royale' is a martini in reference only. He asks for a dry martini made with a ratio of 3 gordons to 1 vodka and a half measure of kina lillet shaken with a lemon twist. Gordon's gin at the time was 47% and change, the vodka at the time was 50%abv, and kina lillet was bitter as fuuuuuuck and far removed from what we know as Lillet blanc now. It was meant as a send up to Vespar Lynd being a Russian double agent, hence the inclusion of vodka and the bitterness. It is strictly a martini as it is made with a clear spirit and a 'vermouth' (an aromatised fortified wine, which Lillet very much is) but is a variation at best, with a key component that leads me to the next point...

b) Dry martinis are bullshit. You want 2 or 3 ounces of hard liquor stirred with ice? no problem, but what you're asking for is not a martini. Vermouth is at least as important in a martini as the spirit, probably more. Vermouth is a fortified wine, but it's still fucking wine, so those gross vermouth bottles sitting on the back-bar of your local for years are going to taste fucking awful. Vermouth is not the problem, spoiled product is. A Martini is made with vermouth, sometimes a lot of it, and makes your chosen spirit more delicious because of it. If you want chilled hard liquor just ask for that instead of a fucking martini.
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