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Postby chumpchange » Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:41 am

I really liked this. I was most disturbed by all of Toni Collette's last fifteen minutes. The scene where Peter is in the attic and turns, and you just see his face and hear that wet *schluck, schluck* noise was the most viscerally uncomfortable I've been in a theater in a long time. I could probably have lived with less exposition at the end, but I'm also dense enough that I needed to have it spelled out for me that the demon had been stuck inside Charlie all that timeToggle Spoiler.
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Postby john plainman » Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:41 am

mondays wrote:had a great time watching this but the entire time i couldn't help but think it has little to no rewatch value and it's going to age terribly


i woke up this morning immediately thinking about this movie, which i never do for anything. i think its going to age really well and tbh i'd love to see it again! the acting is just so insanely strong.
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Postby john plainman » Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:42 am

chumpchange wrote:I really liked this. I was most disturbed by all of Toni College's last fifteen minutes. The scene where Peter is in the attic and turns, and you just see his face and hear that we *schluck, schluck* noise was the most viscerally uncomfortable I've been in a theater in a long time. I could probably have lived with less exposition at the end, but I'm also dense enough that I needed to have it spelled out for me that the demon had been stuck inside Charlie all that timeToggle Spoiler.


yes thats the scene that my mind keeps going back to. her facial expression is just.... fuck
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Postby RIXX » Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:53 am

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mondays wrote:had a great time watching this but the entire time i couldn't help but think it has little to no rewatch value and it's going to age terribly


i woke up this morning immediately thinking about this movie, which i never do for anything. i think its going to age really well and tbh i'd love to see it again! the acting is just so insanely strong.


I want to see it again jsut because I have a feeling the mythology of the ending was hinted at in clues along the way in plain sight
even the intro funeral scene where annie talks about her mom having private friends, private rituals, etc
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Postby blue sunshine » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:00 am

RIXX wrote:
john plainman wrote:
mondays wrote:had a great time watching this but the entire time i couldn't help but think it has little to no rewatch value and it's going to age terribly


i woke up this morning immediately thinking about this movie, which i never do for anything. i think its going to age really well and tbh i'd love to see it again! the acting is just so insanely strong.


I want to see it again jsut because I have a feeling the mythology of the ending was hinted at in clues along the way in plain sight
even the intro funeral scene where annie talks about her mom having private friends, private rituals, etc
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All the "strange, new faces" and the man by the casket smiling at CharlieToggle Spoiler
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Postby john plainman » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:06 am

RIXX wrote:
john plainman wrote:
mondays wrote:had a great time watching this but the entire time i couldn't help but think it has little to no rewatch value and it's going to age terribly


i woke up this morning immediately thinking about this movie, which i never do for anything. i think its going to age really well and tbh i'd love to see it again! the acting is just so insanely strong.


I want to see it again jsut because I have a feeling the mythology of the ending was hinted at in clues along the way in plain sight
even the intro funeral scene where annie talks about her mom having private friends, private rituals, etc
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charlie telling her mother; "grandma wanted me to be a boy", the brother who committed suicide because ellen was "trying to put people inside him".

one thing i wonder about, is how much annie knew, either consciously or repressed? she says her mother had dissociative identity disorder, but i feel like she was either projecting her own diagnosis or they shared it, as is their heredity
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Postby RIXX » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:12 am

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mondays wrote:had a great time watching this but the entire time i couldn't help but think it has little to no rewatch value and it's going to age terribly


i woke up this morning immediately thinking about this movie, which i never do for anything. i think its going to age really well and tbh i'd love to see it again! the acting is just so insanely strong.


I want to see it again jsut because I have a feeling the mythology of the ending was hinted at in clues along the way in plain sight
even the intro funeral scene where annie talks about her mom having private friends, private rituals, etc
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charlie telling her mother; "grandma wanted me to be a boy", the brother who committed suicide because ellen was "trying to put people inside him".

one thing i wonder about, is how much annie knew, either consciously or repressed? she says her mother had dissociative identity disorder, but i feel like she was either projecting her own diagnosis or they shared it, as is their heredity
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i thought about this too. i thought maybe annie's sleepwalking attempt to kill her children with fire was a subconscious/repressed attempt at disrupting the ritual from occurring. or even her purposefully trying to have the miscarriage.

also damn @ both of those clues you mentioned. thas crazy. i'm for sure gonna see this film again
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Postby qmass » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:41 pm

jalapeño ranch wrote:Wait, how do you sneak a shopping cart into a movie theater?


That's what me and 100+ strangers were all collectively wondering.
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Postby Rhodes » Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:01 pm

Haven't read the whole thread, but my friends and I just got out of a matinee showing with an annoying old guy who talked and yawned loudly and said, "Hmm." after every other scene. At one point he actually fucking asked, "Are they really in a miniature?" Then he proceeded to ask it like three more times after that.

YEAH, DUDE. EVERYONE WAS IN ONE OF THE MOM'S MINIATURES THE ENTIRE TIME.
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Postby ashtrayheart » Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:37 pm

can’t stop thinking about this dang movie. i have been thinking a bit about my first post, i felt a little critical of its length. it does the dread stuff so well, and i do really like the family drama. these are all good actors and they have enough to work with. i just read david sims review though and i think i agree with it almost exactly. basically, this movie could have been a tad better as either a 90 minute thriller or another 15 minutes thrown on as primarily a family drama, that it’s kind of stuck in the middle a bit so it feels a little long or clunky at times. they introduce the dog and the dog shows up exactly twice more, i wanna see the cut scenes.
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Postby ashtrayheart » Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:38 pm

still a great movie!!! stoked on this dang movie. that’s just one criticism though.
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Postby loaf angel » Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:34 pm

I agree. I definitely the length
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Postby Franco » Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:34 pm

Not trying to be snarky but if you eliminate the family drama minutes then you’re left with a probably forgettable Netflix movie.
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Postby RIXX » Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:39 pm

Rhodes wrote:Haven't read the whole thread, but my friends and I just got out of a matinee showing with an annoying old guy who talked and yawned loudly and said, "Hmm." after every other scene. At one point he actually fucking asked, "Are they really in a miniature?" Then he proceeded to ask it like three more times after that.

YEAH, DUDE. EVERYONE WAS IN ONE OF THE MOM'S MINIATURES THE ENTIRE TIME.


lol, while everyone else was mesmerized by the intro camera work that seamlessly transitions from the miniature to the real peter's room, this old man was thinking "HMM OK SO THESE ARE LITTLE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THIS TOY HOUSE, GOT IT" :lol:
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Postby Franco » Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:46 pm

Franco wrote:Not trying to be snarky but if you eliminate the family drama minutes then you’re left with a probably forgettable Netflix movie.


This should say a well-made Netflix movie.
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Postby ashtrayheart » Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:01 pm

i definitely applaud erring on the side of ambitious. i think if you cut this movie down you get something close to oujia 2, a lean genre flick (which rules). this movie reminds me a bit of oujia 2 (and im sure a ton of other horror movies) structurally, with two acts devoted to establishing important family dynamics and story and a wild final sequence. this one puts on the dread more evenly, with almost no lighter fare even in the first two acts, and i think attempts to tell a more complicated/interesting story. i think it succeeds mostly, so much so that i wish it was just a bit longer so it gave the characters even more time to interact.
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Postby Franco » Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:09 pm

Feel that
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Postby RIXX » Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:10 pm

yeah I loove Flanagan's Ouija. Hereditary is obviously a better acted/directed/shot movie overall, but Ouija was a scarier film IMO. there are a lot of lasting images from that film that have stuck with me
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Postby Rhodes » Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:15 pm

RIXX wrote:
Rhodes wrote:Haven't read the whole thread, but my friends and I just got out of a matinee showing with an annoying old guy who talked and yawned loudly and said, "Hmm." after every other scene. At one point he actually fucking asked, "Are they really in a miniature?" Then he proceeded to ask it like three more times after that.

YEAH, DUDE. EVERYONE WAS IN ONE OF THE MOM'S MINIATURES THE ENTIRE TIME.


lol, while everyone else was mesmerized by the intro camera work that seamlessly transitions from the miniature to the real peter's room, this old man was thinking "HMM OK SO THESE ARE LITTLE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THIS TOY HOUSE, GOT IT" :lol:


There was another time where he observed, "So, she cut off the bird's head, then she got her head cut off."
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Postby mellowgold » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:05 pm

RIXX wrote:
john plainman wrote:
mondays wrote:had a great time watching this but the entire time i couldn't help but think it has little to no rewatch value and it's going to age terribly


i woke up this morning immediately thinking about this movie, which i never do for anything. i think its going to age really well and tbh i'd love to see it again! the acting is just so insanely strong.


I want to see it again jsut because I have a feeling the mythology of the ending was hinted at in clues along the way in plain sight
even the intro funeral scene where annie talks about her mom having private friends, private rituals, etc
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the necklace that toni and the grandmother wore that popped up a bunch is literally the symbol of paimon lololToggle Spoiler
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Postby mellowgold » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:09 pm

also ive seen more people complain about theater-going experiences w/ this movie online than like any other movie ever? it sounds like one out of every three people had at least someone shitty in the audience. there was an older couple when i saw it who were kind of annoying, doing that loud whispering thing, thinking they're quiet but not. kept asking obvious questions and then kept doing the tongue click ugh.
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Postby RIXX » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:12 pm

I honestly thought it would be funny to do a loud tongue click noise when the theater was absolutely dead silent and freak everyone out, but as I am a mostly grown, mature man, I held back that impulse.
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Postby Rainbow Battle Kid » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:25 pm

are there many jump scares in this? i don't watch much horror but caught like, The Witch and It Follows and The Wailing etc, and my mileage with those was basically in order of how much they relied on jumps, or how angry the jumps made me, lol
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Postby Rhodes » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:28 pm

My experience was the worst one I've had in a while. The crowds for The Witch and It were both pretty bad, but nothing like the annoying old people behind us. Like, after The Witch ended, I heard a few "that was fuckin' stupid" or something. This fucking guy during Hereditary had to loudly cough and clear his sinuses for a solid five minutes right at the beginning of the movie after offering his hot takes on every trailer shown (all of them being "I don't think so" with the exception of the dumb Mark Wahlberg movie). Then when the movie ended, he belched out, "That was lame" like he was forced to watch the movie at gunpoint and at no point did it dawn on him that maybe the movie wasn't for him and he should probably just cut his losses and leave and he lacked the wherewithal to piece the various clues together and the self-awareness and restraint that governs another person who recognizes that, despite theater-going being a shared, communal experience, attendees are there for the movie, not their neighbor's dumb thoughts.
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Postby Franco » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:28 pm

There are a couple bang-shock moments yes. Def nothing gratuitous though.
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Postby RIXX » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:28 pm

No, there's basically no jump scares

it's actually more the opposite really, where scary things are hidden in the wide frame and become visible
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Postby Rainbow Battle Kid » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:29 pm

will probably have to make sure i watch it with a friend who is okay with me having a vice-grip on their arm for the entire runtime
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Postby Franco » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:31 pm

The majority of people in my theater were LAUGHING. A lot. Not like a ‘this is so fucked up I need to vent something’ laugh. But like finding actual comedy at a lot of line readings that weren’t actually funny.
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Postby Rhodes » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:34 pm

Anyway, the movie ruled. I'm a sucker for slow-burning dread and a looming presence of something else and arcane mythology and religious apocrypha and shit. Plus everyone acted the hell (ahee) out of this and it was well-shot and -lit and there were interesting choices made for the scares.
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Postby RIXX » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:34 pm

Franco wrote:The majority of people in my theater were LAUGHING. A lot. Not like a ‘this is so fucked up I need to vent something’ laugh. But like finding actual comedy at a lot of line readings that weren’t actually funny.

my audience wasn't laughing consistently but there were a few people that did laugh occasionally at some line readings. mainly @ charlie, and also near the end when annie-demon silently breaststroked thru the air behind PeterToggle Spoiler
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