I can see some people getting that impression, but those people that do are also assholes themselves. It's not on the movie to fingerwag and tell the viewers this guy is a self-centered shithead.
Buzz Fledderjohn wrote:having just watched it for the first time, nicholson's character didn't really seem like he's being glorified or anything. seemed more of a pathetic and aimless figure. no?
lots of dudes on this very board talk about romanticizing pathetic and aimless characters with substance abuse issues or doing so when they were younger.
im not saying anyone watched that movie and was inspired to leave their gf at a truck stop, but come one the whole tortured smart blue collar misunderstood cool guy asshole character is not somone 100% hated by all viewers
i mean, most great protagonists are not "100% hated" - that's looking at it in a pretty obtuse, binary way. he's damaged, complicated, sometimes awful, sometimes likable. obviously a shitty person.
i still love the movie all i said was he's a shitty character and lots of dudes like me probably viewed it in bad way and i got holden caulfield explained to me
there's nothing remotely romantic about bobby dupea. the guy is doomed from the start. that nicholson makes you identify is one of his great magic tricks.
i know when i saw it as an adolescent, i didn't totally get it but i absolutely related to the sense of rage and general disgust and self-hatred he oozes throughout. so, i didn't romanticize it but i certainly identified with it (even if i'd never leave a girl at a truck stop).
the case could be made that it's his truest performance, b/c it connected with a stifled anger that ran deep within him as a younger man.
Stuntman wrote:The Shining was the only movie I could get to work on my Zune so in 2009 I watched it at work propped up against my printer just out of sight from the entrance of my cubicle like 3 times a day everyday for 2 months straight. I can never watch this film again.
i haven’t seen as good as it gets since like sixth grade, but i remember loving nicholson’s performance and the fact that i still remember so much about it leads me to believe it’s his most underrated performance
There are several ways to go with that, someone else can help because I'm no expert, but lemme just give you the starter info:
Stephen King didn't like the movie. Stanley Kubrick employed a ton of weird spacial tricks about the layout of the hotel to confuse your brain while watching. Kubrick was really mean to Shelley Duvall on set. Ridley Scott used some of the footage from the beginning, when they're driving to the hotel, in an alternate ending of Blade Runner (I've never seen it!). The hotel that it's based on and shot in are different, and might be different than in the book? Something like that. Joey from "Friends" is scared of the book.
people don’t talk about Carnal Knowledge enough. it’s one of the darkest movies I’ve ever seen. no one’s really done anything about the insidious sickness of masculine sexuality like that since except maybe the other great Art Film™️, Bad Timing
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I was... slightly happier when I thought Art had only been in Bad Timing and Carnal Knowledge. I see now that he has been in a few other movies. That is so foolish.
The Shining is the best movie I've ever seen. Maybe this is the year I get up the courage to watch it again.
The job interview scene always freaked me out. Its like that Kids In The Hall sketch where Dave Foleys character has a speech impediment that makes him talk like he's being sarcastic. Why would you hire a guy whos talking to you like that?!
Darlene wrote:The job interview scene always freaked me out. Its like that Kids In The Hall sketch where Dave Foleys character has a speech impediment that makes him talk like he's being sarcastic. Why would you hire a guy whos talking to you like that?!
I guess because I knew all the iconography already of the twins/blood/etc, the domestic abuse stuff really stood out as most scary and terrifying and unsettling.