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Re: Nicholson in 'The Shining'

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:16 pm
by Plainsong
I didn't feel that his character was glorified either. I didn't feel a whole lot of sympathy for him though, and I mainly sympathised for Karen Black's character the most.

Re: Nicholson in 'The Shining'

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:22 pm
by Eyeball Kid
Any fans of Drive, He Said? It's only OK, but if you have any love of early 70's American filmmaking, it's worth a watch.

Re: Nicholson in 'The Shining'

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:30 pm
by NegativeCapability
I bet the guy in the bear suit sucking dick is a legend in the furry community. Someone please confirm this thx

Re: Nicholson in 'The Shining'

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:31 pm
by theendoftheworld666@aol.com
gdi i watched the shining like a half dozen times a few winters ago and i keep telling myself i'll make it a tradition and then never get around to it. i know this is more of a nicholson thread rn but im dying to get home and throw this on now.

Re: Nicholson in 'The Shining'

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:34 pm
by clouds
Buzz Fledderjohn wrote:having just watched it for the first time, nicholson's character didn't really seem like he's being glorified or anything. seemed more of a pathetic and aimless figure. no?


lots of dudes on this very board talk about romanticizing pathetic and aimless characters with substance abuse issues or doing so when they were younger.

im not saying anyone watched that movie and was inspired to leave their gf at a truck stop, but come one the whole tortured smart blue collar misunderstood cool guy asshole character is not somone 100% hated by all viewers

Re: Nicholson in 'The Shining'

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:37 pm
by clouds
steve mcqueen actually slapped the shit out of a woman (unscripted) and his name is literally synonymous with cool in america

e. weird point to make with an el topo av but i think that controversy was him not using english like we do

Re: Nicholson in 'The Shining'

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:37 pm
by Eyeball Kid
I can see some people getting that impression, but those people that do are also assholes themselves. It's not on the movie to fingerwag and tell the viewers this guy is a self-centered shithead.

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Re: Nicholson in 'The Shining'

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:40 pm
by Buzz Fledderjohn
Mine Is Clouds wrote:
Buzz Fledderjohn wrote:having just watched it for the first time, nicholson's character didn't really seem like he's being glorified or anything. seemed more of a pathetic and aimless figure. no?


lots of dudes on this very board talk about romanticizing pathetic and aimless characters with substance abuse issues or doing so when they were younger.

im not saying anyone watched that movie and was inspired to leave their gf at a truck stop, but come one the whole tortured smart blue collar misunderstood cool guy asshole character is not somone 100% hated by all viewers


i mean, most great protagonists are not "100% hated" - that's looking at it in a pretty obtuse, binary way. he's damaged, complicated, sometimes awful, sometimes likable. obviously a shitty person.

Re: Nicholson in 'The Shining'

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:40 pm
by clouds
wasn't there a "bobby dupea" boarder once?

Re: Nicholson in 'The Shining'

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:43 pm
by Buzz Fledderjohn
does anyone have actual problems with the movie or just that boarders may have expressed admiration for the character at some point

Re: Nicholson in 'The Shining'

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:46 pm
by clouds
i still love the movie all i said was he's a shitty character and lots of dudes like me probably viewed it in bad way and i got holden caulfield explained to me

Re: Nicholson in 'The Shining'

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:53 pm
by defective
there's nothing remotely romantic about bobby dupea. the guy is doomed from the start. that nicholson makes you identify is one of his great magic tricks.

i know when i saw it as an adolescent, i didn't totally get it but i absolutely related to the sense of rage and general disgust and self-hatred he oozes throughout. so, i didn't romanticize it but i certainly identified with it (even if i'd never leave a girl at a truck stop).

the case could be made that it's his truest performance, b/c it connected with a stifled anger that ran deep within him as a younger man.

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Re: Nicholson in 'The Shining'

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:34 am
by Plainsong

Watched it for the first time last night and loved it. One of my many favourite scenes. One of my favourite Nicholson performances.

Re: Nicholson in 'The Shining'

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:29 am
by internethandle
Buzz Fledderjohn wrote:dude at least needs to shoot like a cameo in something so this isn't his last flick

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do you think someone used scientology tech on this image

Re: Nicholson in 'The Shining'

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:41 pm
by gold and glass
that image was definitely made by a really sad robot

Re: Nicholson in 'The Shining'

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:42 pm
by gold and glass
domesticwhite wrote:
jon wrote:
Stuntman wrote:The Shining was the only movie I could get to work on my Zune so in 2009 I watched it at work propped up against my printer just out of sight from the entrance of my cubicle like 3 times a day everyday for 2 months straight. I can never watch this film again.


This is how Kubrick intended for it to be seen.


this is the greatest post


yes i loved this

Re: Nicholson in 'The Shining'

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:45 pm
by Seamus
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Re: Nicholson in 'The Shining'

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:48 pm
by Seamus
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screw it, as good as it gets was pretty good!

Re: Nicholson in 'The Shining'

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:56 pm
by nice pass
That was kinda homophobic iirc

Re: Nicholson in 'The Shining'

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:10 pm
by Durham
Stuntman post, HDS pic, good ass movies being talked about....great thread

Re: Nicholson in 'The Shining'

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 5:00 pm
by inmate
i haven’t seen as good as it gets since like sixth grade, but i remember loving nicholson’s performance and the fact that i still remember so much about it leads me to believe it’s his most underrated performance

Re: Nicholson in 'The Shining'

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:34 am
by scrambled
ok i just saw The Shining for the first time

what's the best like media/writing/podcast to digest some of this stuff and gain further context

Re: Nicholson in 'The Shining'

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:49 am
by boatwave
There are several ways to go with that, someone else can help because I'm no expert, but lemme just give you the starter info:

Stephen King didn't like the movie.
Stanley Kubrick employed a ton of weird spacial tricks about the layout of the hotel to confuse your brain while watching.
Kubrick was really mean to Shelley Duvall on set.
Ridley Scott used some of the footage from the beginning, when they're driving to the hotel, in an alternate ending of Blade Runner (I've never seen it!).
The hotel that it's based on and shot in are different, and might be different than in the book? Something like that.
Joey from "Friends" is scared of the book.

Re: Nicholson in 'The Shining'

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:50 am
by spix et chicho
people don’t talk about Carnal Knowledge enough. it’s one of the darkest movies I’ve ever seen. no one’s really done anything about the insidious sickness of masculine sexuality like that since except maybe the other great Art Film™️, Bad Timing

Re: Nicholson in 'The Shining'

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:53 am
by grammatron
The book is about a haunted hotel that drives a man crazy.
The movie is about a man who goes crazy in a haunted hotel.

Re: Nicholson in 'The Shining'

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:17 am
by Spoilt Victorian Child
I was... slightly happier when I thought Art had only been in Bad Timing and Carnal Knowledge. I see now that he has been in a few other movies. That is so foolish.

The Shining is the best movie I've ever seen. Maybe this is the year I get up the courage to watch it again.

Re: Nicholson in 'The Shining'

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:32 am
by Darlene
The job interview scene always freaked me out. Its like that Kids In The Hall sketch where Dave Foleys character has a speech impediment that makes him talk like he's being sarcastic. Why would you hire a guy whos talking to you like that?!

Re: Nicholson in 'The Shining'

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:28 pm
by FourLegsGood
Darlene wrote:The job interview scene always freaked me out. Its like that Kids In The Hall sketch where Dave Foleys character has a speech impediment that makes him talk like he's being sarcastic. Why would you hire a guy whos talking to you like that?!



Re: Nicholson in 'The Shining'

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:11 pm
by realcoolattitude
https://www.nytimes.com/1986/07/13/maga ... olson.html

I enjoy this article about Nicholson talking about how he approaches the work of acting. He's so lucid here.

Re: Nicholson in 'The Shining'

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:19 pm
by scrambled
I guess because I knew all the iconography already of the twins/blood/etc, the domestic abuse stuff really stood out as most scary and terrifying and unsettling.