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Postby Bad Craziness » Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:10 pm

draw wrote:
largecrow wrote:what do you gain by taking a stand against Apu being considered racist? what battle are you trying to win here


If you're trying to make sense of the world and something isn't intuitive to you, what are you gonna do? I don't think this New Boarder is really looking to change his mind, but on the other hand debate and discussions never change anyone's mind, it's all about passive & ambient social pressure.


I agree on this but I will say that I've seen firsthand how debate and discussions can change peoples minds

but it's so rare and when it happens it's usually the result of a long and torturous process, so much so that most of the time it's not worth the effort
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Postby bluelips » Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:12 pm

blurst of times wrote:Having one contrarian here is bad but not too terrible in comparison to all the awful Twitter replies anyone who criticized the Simpsons this week has been getting


i made the mistake of getting deep into both twitter and r/television threads about this. glutton for punishment i guess
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Postby light rail coyote » Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:15 pm

blurst of times wrote:Having one contrarian here is bad but not too terrible in comparison to all the awful Twitter replies anyone who criticized the Simpsons this week has been getting


agreed and it bugs me personally because the Simpsons is easily my biggest pop culture touchstone and I just don't get why so many people feel personally offended by having to acknowledge it has problematic elements.

I posted on nohomers when I was in high school. If I can come to terms with this, anyone can
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Postby blurst of times » Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:20 pm

Yeah I mean...look at my username
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Postby draw » Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:27 pm

People don't want to look at a thing that they really like and say "hey, actually parts of this are bad."
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Postby Bad Craziness » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:35 am

this is perfect



fucking hell

this and the list of unused episode ideas are making me really sad
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Postby kylie minogue » Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:37 am

draw wrote:People don't want to look at a thing that they really like and say "hey, actually parts of this are bad."


being able to say "i like it but it's bad" gives me the unconscious emotional enjoyment of something but also the cognitive rational satisfaction of destroying it

i'm pumping out endorphins at a heck of a rate
hahaha mad me chuckle that
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Postby The Priest » Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:41 am

draw wrote:People don't want to look at a thing that they really like and say "hey, actually parts of this are bad."


Which is why I'm so glad The Simpsons provided a nice dividing line in quality so I can file all the bad stuff against latter day and stick my head in the sand about the Glory days
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Postby mcwop23 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:41 am

are there even shows on now that aren’t problematic still to some extent?

everyone is problematic to a degree
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Postby The Priest » Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:41 am

New Simpsons = bad
Old Simpsons = "dental plan!"
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Postby The Priest » Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:42 am

mcwop23 wrote:are there even shows on now that aren’t problematic still to some extent?

everyone is problematic to a degree


Obviously it's in the eye of the beholder but yeah almost every contemporary sitcom has some egregious racial caricature
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Postby antoine » Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:31 am

Bad craziness wrote:this is perfect



fucking hell

This is terrible actually
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Postby antoine » Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:32 am

How come no one's taken That 70's Show to the mat for "Fes"
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Postby goofjan » Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:33 am

antoine wrote:How come no one's taken That 70's Show to the mat for "Fes"

First they have to deal with the fact that one of the stars was a serial rapist.
plz if u get a chanse put some flowrs on algernons grave kthxbye
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Postby antoine » Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:35 am

Maybe we should all stop consuming and thinking about pop culture. It's for the best.
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Postby blurst of times » Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:36 am

Pop culture is all I have
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Postby antoine » Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:39 am

Were people happier when they didn't have to labor over the socio-political metacommentary of sitcoms bc they didn't exist.
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Postby internetfriend » Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:43 am

all culture expresses ideology
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Postby antoine » Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:53 am

True. At a certain point though these online kerfuffles become tedious and a zero sum game. You're not gonna convince everyone you're right about anything but somehow the internet makes people think they Must Win Every Last Argument. Reasonable people will recognize the problematicness of Apu, take what lessons from that what they will and move on with their lives.

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Postby internetfriend » Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:54 am

the vocal folk'll
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Postby draw » Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:25 pm

internetfriend wrote:all culture expresses ideology

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Postby Annie May » Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:06 pm

Pop culture? More like POOP culture!!
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Postby gold and glass » Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:57 pm

he dreams that he is literally a viking when he sleeps
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Postby The Priest » Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:00 pm

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Postby draw » Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:18 pm

gold and glass wrote:he dreams that he is literally a viking when he sleeps

Anyone who thinks this is essentially alt-right as far as I'm concerned
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Postby Kenny » Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:44 pm

I get where Antoine's coming from with his post, just wanted to jump in and say that it's not stupid at least on a personal level. If fighting every battle is doing bad stuff for you it's good to take a break especially online where everything is fucking rediculous.

You can't even get everybody on hipinion to agree Apu is racist, much less the entire web
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Postby internethandle » Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:16 pm

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Postby antoine » Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:43 pm

Guy Incognito wrote:These aren't just internet nerds debating what state Springfield is in, but issues that, maybe in subtle and indirect ways, actually do have real world effects

So when you ask whether people wre "happier" when people we're not analyzing sitcoms, you gotta ask who exactly the "people" are in that sentence

I get this, I guess I was more talking about the people on this board specifically, which is still like 80% white dudes, arguing amongst themselves about issues that don't affect them directly. Blurst of Times' post a few pages back was really good and enlightening, but was barely noticed because there's some clueless rando to pile on. I think the ratio of posts that I can actually learn something from to endless parroting of the same thing is like 1:50. I'm probaby not explaining this well.
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Postby blurst of times » Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:06 am




seems like a pretty decent response! wish the other simpsons writers/showrunners would get a clue, but this is still good. now if they'd just hire me to be a writer...
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Postby bluelips » Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:49 am

well that's encouraging
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