Mandy (2018)

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Postby aububs » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:06 pm

this looks, uhhh, good

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Postby Buddy Glass » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:23 pm

Saw this last month. It's pretty good - Cage has fun going batshit, the visuals are psychedelic throughout, Johann Johannsson does a pretty convincing droney doom metal score, and it's all played with a wink and a nod without really tipping over into full camp. The villain(s) for me were kind of the weak point, as the first third leans pretty heavily on the cult leader character and he's ultimately pretty underwhelming. Mandy's death, which sets the revenge plot in motion, is pretty much a 1:1 illustration of the Margaret Atwood idea that men are afraid that women will laugh at them, and women are afraid that men will kill them. There's a post-trauma Cage freakout scene that got a huge laugh/applause break at my screening, and another big one a few minutes later when Cage does a huge line of blow and gains superpowers. There's also a chainsaw battle.Toggle Spoiler The film's pacing is really slow and deliberate and that kind of undermines its strengths in the sense that it feels like the movie never quite gets going even when we're primed to watch Cage go and butcher everyone. Anyway, wanted to like it more than I did, but definitely worth seeing, I love how much it commits to the insanity of the premise.
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Postby deadwolfbones » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:25 pm

Beyond the Black Rainbow was such a chore to watch

I want this to be good but I have serious doubts
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Postby NegativeCapability » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:50 pm

No idea what the hell is going on that trailer but I like it and it looks good.
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Postby manvstrees » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:21 pm

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Postby loaf angel » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:30 pm

of course I need to watch this right now
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Postby Science » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:44 pm

Nic Cage going crazy and fighting demons? I liked it better the first time when it was called "Ghost Rider"!
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Postby Science » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:44 pm

jk this looks sick.
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Postby a is jump » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:48 pm

I loved Beyond the Black Rainbow, and this looks like I'm gonna love it, too.
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Postby Melville » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:47 pm

This looks amazing.
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Postby goofjan » Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:32 pm

this looks neat. I just hope it's not a case of the filmmaker thinking, "Nic Cage plus chainsaws and neon, it writes itself!" I hope it's, you know, an actual movie.
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Postby Legion » Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:00 pm

a is jump wrote:I loved Beyond the Black Rainbow, and this looks like I'm gonna love it, too.
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Postby Grey Poupon » Sun Sep 09, 2018 5:30 am

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Postby high bias » Sun Sep 09, 2018 5:44 am

seeing this on tuesday. really pumped.

cage is going to be at the prior screening for a q&a. hope he sticks around.
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Postby someguy » Sun Sep 09, 2018 5:51 am

I saw this the other day, it's good! See it in a theatre if it plays by you because the ridiculous style will work a lot more.

Also count me as someone who prefers the first half over the second. Was more into the fever dream mood along with Cosmatos' shout outs to Hellraiser
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Postby mothlight » Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:20 am

high bias wrote:seeing this on tuesday. really pumped.

cage is going to be at the prior screening for a q&a. hope he sticks around.


oh man I'll be at the one with the q&a. I'm psyched. hope he stays for you as well.
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Postby shacky » Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:02 am

goofjan wrote:this looks neat. I just hope it's not a case of the filmmaker thinking, "Nic Cage plus chainsaws and neon, it writes itself!" I hope it's, you know, an actual movie.


i, on the other hand, am very okay with just nic cage plus chainsaws and neon
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Postby madness and chaos » Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:03 pm

saw some shit about this last night as I had watched BTBR on Friday night so I wasn't thrilled (fuck that long Tool video) but I hear good things so I dunno

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Postby zach york » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:06 pm

this goes VOD on friday I believe. feels it's very worth seeing in a theater setting but there are no showings around me soo
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Postby mellowgold » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:12 pm

deadwolfbones wrote:Beyond the Black Rainbow was such a chore to watch

I want this to be good but I have serious doubts


yes Beyond the Black Rainbow was like the classic style over substance from what i can remember but also i feel like it was one of the first movies to pop on netflix and get word-of-mouth buzz?

but mandy looks good!
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Postby landspeedrecord » Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:23 pm

I wasn't into beyond the black rainbow. I found it to be fairly tedious and unoriginal. I saw mandy with a few folks who were crazy about that flick, and they predictably loved it

I liked it more in theory than in actuality. I found the constant digital glow of the first half of the film to be pretty distracting, didn't care about any of the characters, and the way panos shoots action is for the most part not very accomplished. it's also just wayyy too fucking long. I often found the first half boring, even if stretching it out is exactly the point (mandy's death comes at exactly the midway point of the film for a reasonToggle Spoiler). that being said, the highs are very high. loved the nods to hellraiser and frazetta in the mise-en-scene, the score, the title sequence dropping in over halfway through the film is legendary, the eric estrada knock knock joke + cheddar goblin ad brought the house down, and the bathroom sequence is easily one of the best and most unhinged of cage's careerToggle Spoiler

it's pretty much an instant cult classic regardless of how enjoyable I found the experience and must absolutely must be seen in a theater with an audience. just go
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Postby tricksforchips » Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:15 am

This was great. Loved how everyone's pupils were all fucked.

I have issues with stylized violence though, and this didn't really change my mind about it. Often felt like the fantasies of a 14 year old but had more coherent direction than other stylish action/violence films.
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Postby Peptobysmal » Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:29 am

This was pretty fun to look at, and I mostly enjoyed it, but I think that it’s really long, the action scenes are oddly boring (and there’s a lot of action after a lot of mood-setting) and that there’s just too many villains. I feel like there’s a really good movie here that just needed a little more focus, or whatever.

Bummed to hear that the composer died in February.
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Postby animefilm » Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:34 am

I liked Beyond the Black Rainbow, at least for what it set out to do and the aesthetics in the context of the time it was made. Right off the heels of Enter the Void, I feel it helped inform a new school of stylization in cinematography (for lack of a better term)... Only God Forgives, Lost River, It Follows, Stranger Things.

I definitely was hoping he would have more potential and put out some films in the time between this and Mandy


Cosmatos dad directed the Cassandra Crossing and Rambo: First Blood Part II. The first is pretty incredible if you haven't checked it out
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Postby Peptobysmal » Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:37 am

His dad also made Cobra and did a really stellar DVD commentary track.

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Postby jalapeño ranch » Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:19 am

I am 45 minutes into this and so far I am very underwhelmed. It’s kind of just making me depressed.
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Postby aububs » Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:15 am

Peptobysmal wrote:His dad also made Cobra and did a really stellar DVD commentary track.



haha this is amazing
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Postby tricksforchips » Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:37 am

animefilm wrote:I liked Beyond the Black Rainbow, at least for what it set out to do and the aesthetics in the context of the time it was made. Right off the heels of Enter the Void, I feel it helped inform a new school of stylization in cinematography (for lack of a better term)... Only God Forgives, Lost River, It Follows, Stranger Things.

I definitely was hoping he would have more potential and put out some films in the time between this and Mandy


Cosmatos dad directed the Cassandra Crossing and Rambo: First Blood Part II. The first is pretty incredible if you haven't checked it out

I'm not sure I agree with this since most of the films you listed, especially It Follows and Stranger Things lift their style directly from 80s cinema.
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Postby aububs » Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:17 pm

i loved this. agree it has issues, most of which are mentioned above, but i think it's a film that's very comfortable with itself and is aware of what it's doing.

i was gonna say it's the best cage movie in nearly ten years but damn, he makes a lot of movies! there's loads i haven't seen
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Postby Grey Poupon » Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:58 pm

I think he's basically acting in everything with a view to paying off all his mad housing debt

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