Leno In Conan Out of Tonight Show?

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...but yeah, there's no way this happening. conan has 4 1/2 years left on his contract... not to mention Leno went through the same thing when he took over for carson. massive ratings slide, followed by gradual growth, NBC will remember, and its the reason they signed a 5 year deal with conan in the first place.

the leno move to primetime was moronic though.

[Big Gay Baby]

has tmz ever been wrong?

[Gene Parmesan]

I blame the lack of masturbating bears on the tonight show for conan's demise

This.

The one where he goes a minute without masturbating may be my favorite Conan skit ever...

[Baby Museum]

I'M GOING TO THROW MYSELF OFF A BRIDGE

[Jouster]

the conan partisans i know have consistently blamed leno for being a shitty lead-in

Except he's not the lead-in, the local news is. Conan partisans are dumb.

[Buddy Glass]

I don't care about any of this except if it affects Jimmy Pardo negatively

[i love to baseball]

people who like conan don't watch conan.

i agree. i love conan, but when i do watch tv at 11 30 its colbert.

conan should go back and take over as the simpsons head writer. fix that pile of shit.

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the conan partisans i know have consistently blamed leno for being a shitty lead-in

Except he's not the lead-in, the local news is. Conan partisans are dumb.

which is killing the affiliates and, in turn, killing conan...

its why the affiliates are calling for heads. the late show has always depended on strong local news lead-ins to survive... pull that shit up by local markets and the ranking of local newscasts has a direct impact on the follow-up program.

[Montague Terrace]

i watched conan pretty regularly there for a while. it was funny and certainly an improvement over leno.

leno's ratings at 10 have been pretty bad too. i think people just don't like watching these types of shows anymore.

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i think people just don't like watching these types of shows anymore.

except that leno's rating were killing with the tonight show... its why NBC felt so confident in the move. what they refused to recognize was the fact that successful dramas led into their lead-in... shit that people watched regularly instead of just dropping by for. it provided an avenue for the Tonight Show to advertise guests, based on whatever that nightly lead in was... they lost that by moving the show pre-news, when their was way more competition for attention. dramas and sitcoms are always going to draw more loyal fans than a take it or leave it, night to night talk show.

people were saying this exact thing before the move, and NBC expected a small ratings loss, but figured it would be much smaller and more than made up for by the lesser costs of producing the show over a weekly ER, for example.

[seriesfinale]

the conan partisans i know have consistently blamed leno for being a shitty lead-in

Except he's not the lead-in, the local news is. Conan partisans are dumb.

Is this post for real

[starttomelt]

maybe the tonight show's rating are so bad because no one watches NBC when leno is on?

[The Dirty Turtle]

couldn't it just be that people over 40 don't generally like conan

[Baby Museum]

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blog ... -show.aspx

ok im a little more relieved

[starttomelt]

and when leno moves, what is nbc showing at 10pm instead?

[grammatron]

i think people just don't like watching these types of shows anymore.

except that leno's rating were killing with the tonight show... its why NBC felt so confident in the move. what they refused to recognize was the fact that successful dramas led into their lead-in... shit that people watched regularly instead of just dropping by for. it provided an avenue for the Tonight Show to advertise guests, based on whatever that nightly lead in was... they lost that by moving the show pre-news, when their was way more competition for attention. dramas and sitcoms are always going to draw more loyal fans than a take it or leave it, night to night talk show.

I definitely think this was a huge mistake and is a big part of the problem with the ratings for both Leno and Conan. Dropping 10:00 dramas, which have been a fairly strong part of NBC's lineup for a long time, was a real bonehead move.

[Feech La Manna]

I love Conan, but the few times I have watched the new show it's been a bit stale

It might be a good idea for him to move onto some different projects... it would be interesting to see what would come of it

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couldn't it just be that people over 40 don't generally like conan

this is part of it, for sure. though dont kid yourself... the people who came of age watching conan in college are getting there soon.

but yeah, there was a reason that Leno excelled in the middle of the country at 10:35... the over 40 set that he most connected with were a captive audience at that timeslot as they went to sleep.

[Jouster]

the conan partisans i know have consistently blamed leno for being a shitty lead-in

Except he's not the lead-in, the local news is. Conan partisans are dumb.

Is this post for real

It was, but I wasn't thinking.

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i think people just don't like watching these types of shows anymore.

except that leno's rating were killing with the tonight show... its why NBC felt so confident in the move. what they refused to recognize was the fact that successful dramas led into their lead-in... shit that people watched regularly instead of just dropping by for. it provided an avenue for the Tonight Show to advertise guests, based on whatever that nightly lead in was... they lost that by moving the show pre-news, when their was way more competition for attention. dramas and sitcoms are always going to draw more loyal fans than a take it or leave it, night to night talk show.

I definitely think this was a huge mistake and is a big part of the problem with the ratings for both Leno and Conan. Dropping 10:00 dramas, which have been a fairly strong part of NBC's lineup for a long time, was a real bonehead move.

http://nymag.com/news/media/61857/

[worrywort]

at least they are letting andy sit down now instead of standing at a podium in the distance

[nefarious]

i'd rather watch that show where the hip team of eccentrics solve crime with science.

[Feech La Manna]

i'd rather watch that show where the hip team of eccentrics solve crime with science.

Who knows, you might get a Jason Alexander sighting...

[accidentswillhappen]

i like conan a lot but i'm not sure if he's a good match for the tonight show
his tv personality has also suffered a lot from him getting married and getting kids and becoming old and rich and a bit obnoxious, when he's supposed to be this slightly faggy but charming insecure nerd guy
also his writers suck for the most part
jon stewart might be good
leno is the worst, that much is clear
seinfeld would suck too

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

people who like conan don't watch conan.

Totally agree and I feel like I fall into that category. I love him whenever I watch, but I find myself watching Colbert and going to sleep.

I actually think he's been pretty fucking funny considering the transition. And maybe if NBC got off his balls for a couple years he'd develop a new, solid fanbase for the Tonight Show. Those Leno fuckers (our parents) are gonna be dying off soon.

[andrei]

his tv personality has also suffered a lot from him getting married and getting kids and becoming old and rich and a bit obnoxious, when he's supposed to be this slightly faggy but charming insecure nerd guy

yeah, i have no desire to watch him anymore

[andrei]

he's also weirdly passive aggressive towards people and strikes me as kind of a bitchy dude in general

[universe]

Jon Stewart is pretty obnoxious.

[Feech La Manna]

Jon Stewart is pretty obnoxious.

Personally I love him but I could see how his personality could grate

[Durham]

What

I feel like Conan hasn't changed terribly much in the last five, six years. Even his Tonight Show act--while a few skits definitely feel like bait for the Leno crowd who might still be around and a coy wink to everyone else, he has a lot more zaniness than I expected

With that said, I watched Late Night all the time and very little of the Tonight Show, preferring Colbert instead