gonna be todays purchases (comics ed) ongoing forever thread

[reversemigraine]

REWRITING HISTORY AGAIN

acapelli's favorite complete runs:

Nextwave by Warren Ellis & Stuart Immomen
Young Avengers by Allen Heinberg & Jim Cheung
Captain Britain & MI-13 by Paul Cornell & Leonard Kirk
Whiteout by Greg Rucka & Steve Lieber
Top 10 by Alan Moore & Gene Ha
Sleeper/Criminal/Incognito by Ed Brubaker & Sean Phillips
Omega The Unknown by Jonathan Lethem & Faryl Dalrymple
All-Star Superman by Grant Morrison & Frank Quitely
New X-Men by Grant Morrison & Frank Quitely/Various
Astonishing X-Men by Joss Whedon & John Cassaday
Runaways by Brian K. Vaughn & Adrian Alphona
Seven Soldiers by Grant Morrison & Various
The Parker books by Darwyn Cooke
Madman Atomic Comics by Mike Allred
Doom Patrol by Grant Morrison & Richard Case/Various
Human Target by Peter Milligan & Various

Architecture's reccs:

-Everyone should read the Long Halloween
-Everyone should track down La Mano Del Destino

Canadian Todd's Marvel reading list (post-Civil War):

End of Civil War to beginning of Secret Invasion:

Death of Captain America omnibus (Brubaker, et al)
Mighty Avengers OHC vol. 1 (Bendis, Cho, Bagley)
New Avengers OHC vol. 2-3 (Bendis, et al)
Ellis' Thunderbolts (Ellis, Deodato)
World War Hulk (Pak, Romita Jr.)

Secret Invasion:

Dark Reign: The List HC (various)
Invincible Iron Man OHC vol. 1 (Fraction, Larocca)
Might Avengers: Secret Invasion OHC (Bendis, et al)
New Avengers OHC vol. 4-5 (Bendis, et al)
Secret Invasion OHC (Bendis, Yu)

Post-Secret Invasion to Siege:

Captain America: Reborn (Brubaker, Hitch, Guice)
Dark Avengers omnibus (Bendis, Deodato)
Siege HC (Bendis, Copiel)
Thor by JMS omnibus (JMS, Copiel)
Secret Warriors vol. 1-4 (Hickman)

Those trades/hardcovers follow the major events from Civil War to Siege. For good books on the fringe of the MU, I'd recommend:

Astonishing Spider-Man & Wolverine (Aaron, Kubert)
Hickman's Fantastic Four run
Jason Aaron's Wolverine: Weapon X and Ghost Rider runs (GR is collected in an omnibus and Aaron's Wolverine run will be released under that format later in the year)
Brubaker's Daredevil (skip Diggle's run)
Bru and Fraction's Immortal Iron Fist
Fraction's The Order
Nextwave (Ellis, Immonen)
Punisher: Frankencastle (Remender)
X-Force (Kyle, Yost)
Peter David's X-Factor (launched when you were still reading, but consistently great)

creationist's list of the 00's best runs:

1. New X-Men (Morrison)
2. Ultimates I & II (Millar)
3. Planetary (Ellis)
4. All Star Superman (Morrison)
5. Promethea (Moore)
6. Astonishing X-Men (Whedon)
7. Captain America (Brubaker)
8. Ex Machina (Vaughn)
9. Daredevil (Bendis)
10. The Authority (Ellis/Millar)

Drinky's faves:

Acme Novelty Library 16-20 - Chris Ware
All-Star Superman - Grant Morrison & Frank Quitely
Astonishing X-Men - Joss Whedon & John Cassaday
Batman: Year One - Frank Miller & David Mazzucchelli
Black Hole - Charles Burns
Bone - Jeff Smith
David Boring - Daniel Clowes
Fantastic Four 570-611, FF - Jonathan Hickman
From Hell - Alan Moore & Eddie Campbell
Hellboy - Mike Mignola (specifically the ones drawn by him & the ones drawn by Richard Corben)
Infinity Gauntlet & Thanos Quest - Jim Starlin & George Perez/Ron Lim
Joe the Barbarian - Grant Morrison & Sean Murphy
Like a Velvet Glove Cast in Iron - Daniel Clowes
Maus - Art Spiegelman
Planetary - Warren Ellis & John Cassaday
Sandman - Neil Gaiman & various
Shade the Changing Man 1-50 - Peter Milligan & Chris Bachalo
Stray Bullets 1-14 (Innocence of Nihilism & Way Out West) - David Lapham
Ultimates & Ultimates 2 - Mark Millar & Bryan Hitch
X-Force/X-Statix - Peter Milligan & Mike Allred

ongoing:
Daredevil - Mark Waid
Locke & Key - Joe Hill & Gabriel Rodriguez
Prophet - Brandon Graham
Punisher - Greg Rucka & Marco Checchetto
Swamp Thing - Scott Snyder & Yaneck Paquette

endor holocaust's favorite completed series and minis:

Umbrella Academy
Umbrella Academy: Dallas
Aaron’s Ghost Rider
The Ultimates 1 and 2/Ultimate Avengers
Miller/Bendis/Brubaker’s Daredevil
All-Star Superman
Brubaker/Fraction’s Immortal Iron Fist
Ellis’ Thunderbolts
Transmetropolitan
Ex Machina
Runaways (through the end of Whedon’s run)
Millar’s Ultimate Fantastic Four
The Order
Joss’ Astonishing X-Men
Thor the Mighty Avenger
Wolverine: Enemy of the State
Ellis/Millar’s The Authority
Rucka’s Batwoman/Detective Comics
Punisher: Frankencastle
Aaron’s Wolverine/Weapon X (Get Mystique, especially)
Dark Avengers
Ennis' Punisher/PunisherMAX
Justice League: New Frontier
Welcome to Tranquility (original mini, not the second)

endor holocaust's favorite current ongoings and minis:

Scalped
Invincible Iron Man
Way’s current Deadpool run
Astonishing Spider-Man/Wolverine
Aaron’s PunisherMAX
THUNDER Agents
Uncanny X-Force
Generation Hope
Detective Comics
Avengers/New Avengers

j_brooks' general reccs:

bendis' daredevil, alias, dark avengers, avengers: the illuminati
millar's ultimates, ultimates 2, ultimate avengers, civil war, fantastic four
ellis' thunderbolts
johns' superman and the legion of superheroes
cornell's captain britain and mi:13
marvel strange stales and strange tales 2
mazzucchelli's asterios polyp
jason's i killed adolf hitler, hey wait, why are you doing this?, the last musketeer, tell me something, et al

j_brooks' current faves from Marvel:

ultimate avengers vs. new ultimates
ff
avengers
new avengers
amazing spider-man
uncanny x-force
venom
captain america
thor

lunatic96's general reccs:

Brubaker/Philips Criminal
20th Century Boys
Scott Pilgrim
It was the War of the Trenches
Skyscrapers of the Midwest/Driven By Lemons
Cooke's Parker adaptations
Queen and Country
Essex County Ghost Stories
Duncan the Wonder Dog
The Girl from H.O.P.P.E.R.S.

Mandingo's top 10:

1. Peter Milligan & Brendan McCarthy - Rogan Gosh
2. Grant Morrison & Frank Quitely - Flex Mentallo
3. Tayio Matsumoto - No. 5
4. Jack Kirby - Omac
5. Frank Miller & Bill Sienkiewicz - Elektra Assassin
6. Alejandro Jorodworsky & Moebius - The Incal
7. Steve Gerber - Man-Thing [including the adventure into fear, giant size, etc.]
8. John Hankewicz - Asthma
9. Joe Casey & Ashley Wood - Automatic Kafka
10. Gary Panter - Jimbo

Mandingo's indie picks (floppies, serials, etc.):

Noah Van Sceiver - Blammo!
Michael DeForge - Lose
James Stokke - Orc Stain
Ben Jones & Frank Santoro - Cold Heat
Anders Nilsen - Big Questions
John Pham - Sublife
Charles Burns - X'ed Out
Lisa Hanawalt - I Want You
Matt Furie - Boys Club
Chris Ware - Acme Novelty Library
Sammy Harkham - Crickets
Jordan Crane - Uptight
Mome
Brandon Graham - King City, Multiple Warheads
Johnny Ryan - Prison Pit

Mandingo's indie OGN/trade paperback faves:

Jim Woodring - Anything, but Portable Frank & Weathercraft
Brian Chippendale - If N Oof, Ninja
Jim Rugg & Brian Maruca - Afrodisiac, Street Angel
Joshua Cotter - Skyscrapers of the Midwest
Alex Robinson - Box Office Posion, Tricked, Too Cool to Be Forgotten
Paul Hornschmier - Three Paradoxes, Mother Come Home
Julie Doucet - My New York Diary, My Most Secret Desire
Chester Brown - Louis Reil, I Never Liked You
Jeff Lemire - Essex County
Ken Dahl - Monsters
John Hankewicz - Asthma

manvstrees no-nonsense must-reads and second-tier picks:

just start reading:

unwritten
ff
uncanny xforce
batman incorporated
detective comics
secret warriors
american vampire
s.h.i.e.l.d.
thunderbolts
locke and key

tier 2:
captain america
iron man
green lantern
northlanders
wolverine
avengers
action comics

grab a joe the barbarian and i kill giants trade and be done with it

manvstrees' top 20 single issues of 2010:

1. Batman and Robin - 13
2. The Return of Bruce Wayne - 01
3. S.H.I.E.L.D. - 01
4. Joe the Barbarian - 05
5. Daytripper - 06
6. Astonishing Spider-Man and Wolverine - 03
7. American Vampire - 02
8. Locke and Key: Keys to the Kingdom - 01
9. Incognito: Bad Influences - 02
10. The Brave and the Bold - 32
11. The Return of Bruce Wayne - 03
12. Siege - 03
13. Wolverine: Weapon X - 11
14. Unwritten - 18
15. Secret Warriors - Siege One-Shot
16. Hellboy: The Storm - 02
17. Fantastic Four - 583
18. Batman - 700
19. Dark Avengers - 13
20. Captain America - Who Won't Wear the Shield?

Rhodes' favorite runs / arcs / series:

- Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles by Kevin Eastman, Peter Laird et al.
- Saga of the Swamp Thing by Alan Moore, Steve Bissette, and Rick Veitch
- Timespirits by Stephen Perry and Thomas Yeates
- Nexus by Mike Baron and Steve Rude
- Detective Comics by Alan Grant and Norm Breyfogle
- Batman and Robin by Grant Morrison, Frank Quitely, et al.
- Jack Kirby's Fourth World
- Justice League America by J.M. DeMatteis, Keith Giffen and Kevin Maguire
- The Flash by Mike Baron and Butch Guice
- The Rocketeer by Dave Stevens
- Madman Atomic Comics by Mike Allred
- Legion of Super-Heroes: The Great Darkness Saga by Paul Levitz and Keith Giffen
- Judge Dredd by John Wagner, Alan Grant, Brian Bolland et al.
- The Question by Denny O'Neil and Denys Cowan
- Miracleman by Alan Moore, Garry Leach, Alan Davis, and Rick Veitch

Rhodes' current favorite ongoings (as of January 2012)

Swamp Thing
Animal Man
Batman
The Flash
Batwoman
Wonder Woman
Justice League Dark
I, Vampire
American Vampire
Sweet Tooth
Journey Into Mystery
Uncanny X-Force
Wolverine and the X-Men
Daredevil
Secret Avengers
Captain America & Bucky
Prophet
Haunt
Fatale
Butcher Baker, the Righteous Maker
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Dark Shadows
Orc Stain
Bad Dog

scurrydog's faves:

...and maybe I Kill Giants.

sevenarts' faves:

From Hell (Alan Moore & Eddie Campbell)
Acme Novelty Library #19 (Chris Ware)
Criminal (Ed Brubaker & Sean Phillips)
Madman (Mike Allred)
Alias (Brian Michael Bendis & Michael Gaydos)
Love and Rockets (Jaime & Gilbert Hernandez)
David Boring (Daniel Clowes)
The Frank Book (Jim Woodring)
Big Questions (Anders Nilsen)
Storeyville (Frank Santoro)
Buddy Does Seattle/Buddy Does Jersey (Peter Bagge)
Asthma (John Hankiewicz)
Safe Area Gorazde (Joe Sacco)
Travel (Yuichi Yokohama)
Echo (Terry Moore)
BodyWorld (Dash Shaw)
Life of the Party (Mary Fleener)
Seaguy (Grant Morrison & Cameron Stewart)
Jimbo In Purgatory (Gary Panter)

Current ongoings:
Marvel: The Punisher, Uncanny X-Force, Daredevil, Wolverine and the X-Men
DC: Swamp Thing, Animal Man, Wonder Woman
Other: Love & Rockets: New Stories, Ganges, Rachel Rising, Conan the Barbarian, The Unwritten

Slokra: PI's Favorite Runs

Y: The Last Man Brian K. Vaughn/Pia Guerra
Punisher MAX Garth Ennis
Batman Hush Jeph Loeb/Jim Lee
Daytripper Gabrial Ba/Fabio Moon
Bone Jeff Smith
Preacher Garth Ennis and Steve Dillon
Sandman Neil Gaiman
Immortal Iron Fist Brubaker/Fraction
Orc Stain James Stokoe (I just assume this is where it goes?)

Slokra: PI's Favorite Ongoings

Walking Dead Robert Kirkman (although I haven't been following the last 4-5 months)
Sweet Tooth Jeff Lemire
Wolverine and the X-Men Jason Aaron
Scalped Jason Aaron RM Guera
Swamp Thing Scott Snyder
Animal Man Jeff Lemire Travel Foreman
Uncanny X-Force Rick Remender
Casanova Matt Fraction Ba/Moon brothers
Flash Francis Manapul
Batman Scott Snyder
Justice League Geoff Johns Jim Lee
Punisher Greg Rucka

smelts' new(er) series to pick up right now:

-Lex Luthor's Action Comics by Paul Cornell
-Amazing Spider-Man: Big Time by Dan Slott
-FF by Jonathan Hickman
-Thunderbolts by Jeff Parker
-Uncanny X-Force by Rick Remender
-Detective Comics by Scott Snyder

smelts' favorite ongoing series, runs or OGNs from the last decade or so:

Captain America by Ed Brubacker #1-Current
Invincible Iron Man by Matt Fraction #1-Current
Thor by J Michael Straczinsky #1-12 & 600-603
Green Lantern by Geoff Johns #1-Current
All-Star Superman by Grant Morrison
Amazing Spider-Man: Brand New Day (New Ways To Die if you want a specific BND arc)
The Flash by Geoff Johns #160-225
Ghost Rider by Jason Aaron #20-35
Secret Warriors by Jonathan Hickman #1-Current
Alias & The Pulse by Brian Michael Bendis
Adventure Comics Starring Superboy by Geoff Johns #1-6
Planetary, The Global Frequency & Thunderbolts #110-121 by Warren Ellis
Young Avengers by Allen Heinberg
Asterio Polyp - David Mazuchelli
Essex County - Jeff Lemire
Teen Titans & Justice Society of America by Geoff Johns

[manvstrees]

what about intelligent commentary about the nature of myth
also gays

[endor holocaust]

JIM LEE

[reversemigraine]

SALES FIGURES
COMBINING TEKES
GAY DEER BOYS

[endor holocaust]

Star Wars is better than Star Trek.

[manvstrees]

ULTIMATE LINE CANCELLED

[reversemigraine]

MARIA HILL

That just about covers it.

Maybe the new-look HPN will draw Tetra back into the comics thread fold.

[Juggly D, The Posting Maniac]

pretty good week comin up

[manvstrees]

eh
no DC books, 7 Marvel and 3 or 4 of that is X-men stuff
nothing spectacular

[smelts]

probably the only thread i really missed during the blackout

got a chance to read all of Invincible Iron Man though

hoping to get through Alias and Iron Fist by the end of the week

[j_brooks]

today i was thinking about the steve rogers appearances in avengers and iron man today and i got warm fuzzy feelings and realized i really missed the character

[Beyerstein]

i like when thor pounded the shield to jolt tony back

[endor holocaust]

probably the only thread i really missed during the blackout

got a chance to read all of Invincible Iron Man though

hoping to get through Alias and Iron Fist by the end of the week

We all forgot about Alias in our run of the decade discussion. Should definitely be up there.

[endor holocaust]

Also, I picked up Brubaker's Doom mini-series in a 50% bin this weekend. Good move?

[manvstrees]

even with all our bullshit, there's no way there's a better place on the internet to discuss superhero comics

[j_brooks]

felt like brubaker's doom mini was an absolute travesty and missed everything that was fun and cool about stan and jack's original vision of the character in favor of this garbage teen angst version

they also show him without the mask at the end and he has no face besides the skin around his eyes, he's just a bunch of robotic tubes and gristle and shit

i was totally infuriated reading the thing, it's one of the worst brubaker comics i've read and i hope it stays out of the canon forever

[scurrydog]

probably the only thread i really missed during the blackout

got a chance to read all of Invincible Iron Man though

hoping to get through Alias and Iron Fist by the end of the week

really want to get into this run of iron man, but haven't found it online yet.

[manvstrees]

director of s.h.i.e.l.d. was really something else too. really great slow building intrigue with mandarin.

[endor holocaust]

felt like brubaker's doom mini was an absolute travesty and missed everything that was fun and cool about stan and jack's original vision of the character in favor of this garbage teen angst version

they also show him without the mask at the end and he has no face besides the skin around his eyes, he's just a bunch of robotic tubes and gristle and shit

i was totally infuriated reading the thing, it's one of the worst brubaker comics i've read and i hope it stays out of the canon forever

Aw damn, should've known writing a character like Doom would play to Bru's worst tendencies.

[new blood, old hat]

Don't you hate it when people try to right Doom as a benevolent dictator and underwrite Doom's villainy by trying to make him morally grey?

Also it's been a while, but SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS wasn't the ending to Books of Doom showing an imprisoned doombot who thought he was the real Doom or some such? And the reporter lady was going to be in jail with the doom bot, yeah? I forget. SPOILERS OVER SPOILERS OVER SPOILERS OVER

[j_brooks]

see i never liked director of shield

thought the mandarin was a poor fit for the type of storyline they were doing, that his inclusion was motivated more by a need for a marquee iron man villain to be the big bad than anything specific about the character himself

also thought that basing the entire long-form story on ellis' extremis arc, right down to using it's supporting characters instead of rhodey/pepper/happy hogan/jarvis/etc. emphasized a poor grasp on the character and his world, i think even ellis probably sort of felt like the random ex-girlfriend who invented extremis was a cliche. was surprised and horrified to see her dragged out of the tidy ending ellis had given her and turned into a regular fixture of the book

[new blood, old hat]

really want to get into this run of iron man, but haven't found it online yet.

These links worked for me the other day

[manvstrees]

i wanted more from steve showing up in avengers than him popping his head in the door and saying ok let's go end this bullshit
yet i'm not too excited about reborn 5, other than that sweet sweet art

[manvstrees]

see i never liked director of shield

thought the mandarin was a poor fit for the type of storyline they were doing, that his inclusion was motivated more by a need for a marquee iron man villain to be the big bad than anything specific about the character himself

also thought that basing the entire long-form story on ellis' extremis arc, right down to using it's supporting characters instead of rhodey/pepper/happy hogan/jarvis/etc. emphasized a poor grasp on the character and his world, i think even ellis probably sort of felt like the random ex-girlfriend who invented extremis was a cliche. was surprised and horrified to see her dragged out of the tidy ending ellis had given her and turned into a regular fixture of the book

i thought the way they worked mandarin was the best thing done with the character since lady mandarin saga

[scurrydog]

really want to get into this run of iron man, but haven't found it online yet.

These links worked for me the other day

good move new guy.

[j_brooks]

doom IS a benevolent dictator, part of doom's power has always been that there's a chance the world actually would be better with him charge of it, that's why the "emperor doom" ogn was so much fun

depictions of latveria as an eastern european wasteland where women have to wear burkas and are super oppressed don't make sense to me, millar got it right in his brief depiction of ultimate latveria as a wonderland technocracy where anything's possible, robots do everything, and doom's bizarre appearance seems perfectly at home

stan and jack's doom was petty and immature but also driven, brilliant, dashing, and vain - dude would never mutilate himself like brubaker shows him doing

old fantastic four, secret wars, emperor doom, triumph and torment, those are doom

waid's unthinkable, brubaker's books of doom - totally off-base

[manvstrees]

depictions of latveria as an eastern european wasteland where women have to wear burkas and are super oppressed don't make sense to me, millar got it right in his brief depiction of ultimate latveria as a wonderland technocracy where anything's possible, robots do everything, and doom's bizarre appearance seems perfectly at home

absolutely. and i've never seen much exploration of latverian day to day.....you'd think doom's kingdom would be full of these amazing characters, but he's just show doing it all himself. of course, i haven't read the aforementioned emperor doom.

[endor holocaust]

Fraction and Romita to take over Thor

[Beyerstein]

Maybe adding thor to his plate will draw him off X-Men

[manvstrees]

i don't think that anyone would argue that he'll be better on thor. fucking great news.