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Postby Riverchrist » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:07 pm

seriesfinale wrote:Do you think Simmons/Klosterman can write anything but pop culture bullshit?


I'm just surprised that instead of getting bored and flipping out, many otherwise promising and intelligent nextgen litbros seem hellbent on turning any practical knowledge or capacity for measured thought towards an endgame of watching TV professionally.
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Postby goldmatt » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:21 pm

rivalité wrote:Just found out what (rather, who) the website was named after. Simmons has an astoundingly inflated sense of self.


Some of the guys on the sportswriter's board that my brother posts on are furious about this.
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Postby seriesfinale » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:42 pm

I assumed it was an homage, not a comparison.
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Postby regs » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:51 pm

you guys sure are upset about this
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Postby 5% Tint » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:52 pm

seriesfinale wrote:I assumed it was an homage, not a comparison.

it is, but its weird because the style he writes with/the site is intended for is nowhere near the way grantland rice wrote
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Postby 5% Tint » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:52 pm

side note, does shivers think wednesday is spelled like that
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Postby seriesfinale » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:59 pm

5% Tint wrote:
seriesfinale wrote:I assumed it was an homage, not a comparison.

it is, but its weird because the style he writes with/the site is intended for is nowhere near the way grantland rice wrote


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Postby Gehrig Industries » Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:02 pm

Simmons and Klosterman have unreal low approval ratings on message boards

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Postby dreamshake » Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:02 pm

5% Tint wrote:
seriesfinale wrote:I assumed it was an homage, not a comparison.

it is, but its weird because the style he writes with/the site is intended for is nowhere near the way grantland rice wrote


Using Grantland as the name was an ESPN exec's idea
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Postby Pops Freshenmeyer » Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:07 pm

I for one enjoy these writers/topics and look forward to reading this website
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Postby doc shivers » Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:56 pm

5% Tint wrote:side note, does shivers think wednesday is spelled like that


it was a copy/past, so just another thing they fucked up.


I can just imagine Simmons right now furiously refreshing his page views counter every 30 seconds.
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Postby Shotfrog » Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:49 pm

clutchcity wrote:
5% Tint wrote:
seriesfinale wrote:I assumed it was an homage, not a comparison.

it is, but its weird because the style he writes with/the site is intended for is nowhere near the way grantland rice wrote


Using Grantland as the name was an ESPN exec's idea

Indeed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/05/magazine/can-bill-simmons-win-the-big-one.html

Ultimately, though, it’s owned by ESPN, and the parent company has already made its presence known, choosing the site’s name, which Simmons is less than enthusiastic about. He worries that it sounds pretentious, he told me, but the higher-ups at ESPN “loved it, and they’ve been so supportive of the site. You’ve got to pick your battles.”
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Postby nakedlunch » Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:04 pm

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G_S wrote:"but his basketball writing is good" is a great sign that you're a big fat dummy

yeah, seriously. dude has the most pedestrian perspective on the game imaginable. that filtered through his dumb, constant pop-culture references and masshole obstinance is just unbearable.

Besides maybe Hollinger and Shoals who writes better about the nba? You both just hate Boston homerism which is fine. It's just petty though to dismiss all of his nba writing because the guy is sort of a piece of shit.
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Postby mouthful of sores » Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:26 pm

A ton of people write better than Bill Simmons on the NBA. Unless you literally mean people on ESPN.
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Postby edgeev » Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:31 pm

oh anal sex, do you know who Bethlehem Shoals is?
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Postby edgeev » Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:34 pm

answer the damn question, anal sex
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Postby mouthful of sores » Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:35 pm

I know FreeDarko and it's a fair answer, but there are a millions of NBA blogs and columnist out there before you have to be picking from the top writers on espn.com
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Postby edgeev » Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:36 pm

you win this round, anal
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Postby Marx & Engels » Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:10 pm

Dwyer's gotten a lot worse recently and Woj is borderline unreadable when it comes to anything other than news he's breaking

So basically, yeah, most sportswriting is awful
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Postby patrick cokane? » Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:50 pm

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Postby doc shivers » Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:55 pm

Woj is easily the best and most respected NBA writer out there.
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Postby swamp angel » Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:28 pm

even if this is nothing but simmons/klosterman pop culture bullshit, it'll still be better than what daulerio turned deadspin into
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Postby Feech La Manna » Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:40 pm

I'd definitely read Grantland before reading Deadspin, yes
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Postby patrick cokane? » Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:42 pm

its hard to "read" deadspin when nothing is more than 5 sentences.
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Postby doc shivers » Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:43 pm

I'd visit meatspin before i visited either.
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Postby patrick cokane? » Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:44 pm

oh i read meatspin every day
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Postby Totally » Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:04 pm

shankly wrote:even if this is nothing but simmons/klosterman pop culture bullshit, it'll still be better than what daulerio turned deadspin into

Oh please Leitch apologists to the back. Deadspin is a fucking Denton vehicle, it's sports gossip, always has been.
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Postby Thalidomide » Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:06 pm

Klosterman came to my college for a full fucking week. He gave one big lecture and spent the rest of the week visiting classes and doing short q&a's with students.

I don't care about the dude one way or another, but I was a journalism major and he showed up in four of my classes as well as visiting our student newspaper which I worked for. His schtick was well-honed the first two times I saw him and they way other students were reacting to it was kinda irritating.

By the end of the week he came to my criticism class and seemed completely hollow. I think four days of having to be Chuck Klosterman had succeeded in making him completely fucking sick of himself. He seemed embarrassed to have to trot out the same prepared material for the umpteenth time in front of the people he was starting to recognize.

Strangely enough, that demonstrable personality fatigue made me kinda like him. I read his new book after that. Although it was pretty bland, I liked the sports stuff all right. It seemed like the only stuff he honestly cared about.
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Postby doc shivers » Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:42 pm

They just put a column up written by the hipsterrunnoff guy.
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Postby 5% Tint » Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:52 pm

the article about alec baldwins twitter is pretty bad
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