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Postby bongo » Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:47 am

hot take: loveless and manchester are both awful films
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Postby aububs » Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:46 am

why did you think manchester by the sea was awful?
no buddy not really
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Postby broodstar » Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:56 am

while we're here, of course porumbiou and petzold's newest at the berlinale look great, but hu bo's an elephant sitting still sounds immense. was saddened to read he killed himself after completing it.

http://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/sigh ... nese-debut
Debut features seldom come as ambitious, or as accomplished, as the magisterial An Elephant Sitting Still, written, directed and edited the Chinese filmmaker Hu Bo. Taking place over the course of a single day, this four-hour chronicle of numb desperation echoes the work of Jia Zhangke through its focus on the personal struggles of individuals left behind in China’s headlong pursuit of economic progress. The cast of disaffected youths and petty criminals living in a stagnant former industrial city particularly recalls Jia’s Unknown Pleasures, but Hu’s chosen aesthetic and mode of storytelling are entirely his own. Staying close to the protagonists at all times, both literally and figuratively, the film patiently draws a profoundly empathetic portrait of human suffering that is at once epic and intimate.

In lengthy and almost ethereal Steadicam shots, Hu shows his characters at home, clashing with family members in cramped and decaying apartments, or follows them as they navigate the equally hostile streets, where violent altercations are as inescapable as the mountains of uncollected trash piled up on every corner. Despite the constant antagonism, the soundtrack is largely drained of ambient sounds. The resulting quiet combines with the predominance of facial close-ups and extensive use of shallow focus, which keeps the surroundings indistinct most of the time, to generate a heightened sense of intimacy that reflects the characters’ self-absorption and lack of perspective.

Despite what the above description might suggest, An Elephant Sitting Still is not an unwatchable exercise in miserabilism. To be sure, the script’s negativity does become somewhat wilful – there are two suicides and one accidental killing in a mere 12-hour period – but the exceptional delicacy with which Hu delineates his characters’ trajectories transcends their wretchedness. The film’s images extricate beauty from the most dismal of situations and together with his actors, all of whom deliver performances of astounding sensitivity, Hu manages to evoke emotions so deeply felt and overwhelming, they compensate for any narrative contrivances.


i also love all things julius eastman related, and turner-prize-winning the otolith group's project on him easily skyrockets to my most wanted thing 2 c this year. i think it played a couple biennales, but also iffr and somewhere in the berlinale forum
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Postby mini » Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:10 pm

Buddy Glass wrote:I didn't hate Loveless but I can see what others hate about it. Its politics are pretty retrograde and misogynistic, and Zvyagintsev putting the heartless, frigid mom in a red tracksuit that says RUSSIA at the end is about as subtle as a brick to the head. But I like the way he makes films, in a formal sense, I like the slow atmospheric pacing and the sort of capital-A 'art film' affectations. He's a bit like Villeneuve in that sense. I don't think his films necessarily always mean very much but I like how they go about trying to mean it. It's a cinematic vernacular I'm always pretty content to sit in for a few hours at a time.

I will say that one shot early on of the kid crying in the dark, holy shit. That's really on a higher level than the rest of the movie.Toggle Spoiler


agree about your spoilered comment. saw this in a packed house last weekend and based on audience reaction during and after the movie had zero impact.
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Postby bongo » Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:47 pm

excited about this, which goes up tomorrow. actually reactivated filmstruck just bc of it

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Postby bongo » Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:12 pm

can’t wait to watch this in tonight

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Postby haddonfield » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:44 pm

oh hell yes, same here
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Postby pink snake » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:07 pm

I'm gonna see Loveless after work tonight. In the theater.
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Postby haddonfield » Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:09 pm

bongo wrote:excited about this, which goes up tomorrow. actually reactivated filmstruck just bc of it


this was impossibly chill and really worth watching, especially since Joe was behind the camera for like 1/4 of the non-clip stuff
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Postby bongo » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:14 pm

yeah it was really great. memoria is a huge deal in his body of work. that quote from bela tarr where he urges joe not to leave thailand is intense
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Postby danno » Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:14 am

it'd be awesome if someone put that on the db, i don't think you can access filmstruck outside the us
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Postby bongo » Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:19 am

i dont think its avaialble anywhere to dl yet, but if it pops up on KG i will certainly grab/db it
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Postby OKterrific » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:53 pm

I don't suggest reading the bizarre, whiny "open letter" by Vincent Gallo that was put out there today but I got a chuckle out of this:

A year later, Sean Penn, who was at Cannes in 2003, said to me that if the film’s credits read, “Written and Directed by Chloe Sevigny,” it would have likely won the Palm D’Or. Meaning those judgmental judges would have felt the film was a feminist triumph and Chloe so brave.
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Postby goofjan » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:44 pm

OKterrific wrote:I don't suggest reading the bizarre, whiny "open letter" by Vincent Gallo that was put out there today but I got a chuckle out of this:

A year later, Sean Penn, who was at Cannes in 2003, said to me that if the film’s credits read, “Written and Directed by Chloe Sevigny,” it would have likely won the Palm D’Or. Meaning those judgmental judges would have felt the film was a feminist triumph and Chloe so brave.

Damn those judgmental judges! Always bein' so judgy!
plz if u get a chanse put some flowrs on algernons grave kthxbye
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Postby Kenny » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:49 pm

I watched Withnail and I for the first time like a week ago and loved it.
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Postby tricksforchips » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:57 pm

Watched Kiarostami's Five Long Takes -- definitely was not in the mood for it.
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Postby goofjan » Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:39 am

Yup.

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Postby broodstar » Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:54 am

OKterrific wrote:I don't suggest reading the bizarre, whiny "open letter" by Vincent Gallo that was put out there today but I got a chuckle out of this:

it's pretty helpful to view his entire persona as performative. i am 99% certain this is not the case, but willful delusion goes a long way.
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Postby Eyeball Kid » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:08 pm

They teal-and-oranged Godard

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Postby Eyeball Kid » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:08 pm

Such a romantic movie, too!
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Postby naturemorte » Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:30 pm

hey guys, i learned two valuable professional lessons tonight. one: don't program something you haven't seen because you've heard it's amazing and it's really hard to see. two: sometimes, when a movie "too rarely screened" or "legendarily hard to see," it's because there's stuff in it that some people might think is illegal!
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Postby Phil » Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:55 pm

Oof, I thought that was going to be about a different film in that touring series (by a Chicago artist) which ends with a shot that certainly wouldn't have been included if it were made today, but I'm guessing it's about the Fulton?
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Postby loaf angel » Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:01 am

nm, did you screen the piss tape?
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Postby broodstar » Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:51 am

naturemorte wrote:hey guys, i learned two valuable professional lessons tonight. one: don't program something you haven't seen because you've heard it's amazing and it's really hard to see. two: sometimes, when a movie "too rarely screened" or "legendarily hard to see," it's because there's stuff in it that some people might think is illegal!

ya, please divulge

cannes lineup seems pretty good?
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Postby quilty » Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:00 am

this saul levine situation sounds ugly and unfortunate

The cyber-bullying the statement is referring to is from Levine’s Facebook posts—he has made several more live videos in addition to the one that sparked the uproar over academic freedom. In the posts, Levine yells and curses at his colleagues, including Soon-Mi Yoo; Lyssa Palu-ay, the school’s interim provost, who was also present in the meeting with Levine; and Nelson. In the subsequent videos—which Levine has since claimed are performance pieces—he alleges that he is being attacked over how much money he makes, claims that colleagues have carried out a campaign to get him to retire, alleges he was bullied and harassed by the school, and maintains that the issue is about censorship.

The situation has also escalated in unexpected ways. Last week, an unknown person distributed pamphlets around Harvard University’s campus containing hate speech directed at those who have contested Levine’s version of the events. A source, who is connected to MassArt but wishes to remain anonymous, provided artforum.com with the document. The source also said, “Saul has been lashing out at the students and the larger community through toxic rants and has not taken the students’ responses seriously.” The source added, “In this day and age, it is all too easy to accept and promote that an itinerant artist is up against an uncaring institution. In this case, the institution is MassArt, whose faculty and staff are courageously upholding the institution’s mission and by doing so are placed in the line of fire.”
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Postby naturemorte » Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:09 am

Phil wrote:Oof, I thought that was going to be about a different film in that touring series (by a Chicago artist) which ends with a shot that certainly wouldn't have been included if it were made today, but I'm guessing it's about the Fulton?

the fulton film was just a lovely piece of eastern mystical claptrap, totally benign
the lapore film, "the 5 bad elements" was the culprit.
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Postby bongo » Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:50 pm

scope this tweet

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Postby Eyeball Kid » Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:52 pm

What's the church here? Twitter?
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