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Postby Vegetable » Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:27 am

I'm mildly enjoying this, but I really hate Star Trek having this tone. Especially in 2017 having gritty Star Trek seems especially depressing. I don't mind showing the dark side of the Federation, violating Roddenberry's rules, or even the plot itself, but it just feels wrong having everyone be all antagonistic to each other.
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Postby Vegetable » Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:44 am

This is taking it to another level, anyway.
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Postby reversemigraine » Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:51 am

Non-Discovery request:

What were the key TNG episodes / seasons that set up DS9? (Season 5 and early Season 6, maybe?)

I don't mean TBOBW, obviously -- I'm talking primarily about the Bajoran / Cardassian stuff.
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Postby Ted Pikul » Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:56 am

Pretty much just "Ensign Ro" and 'Preemptive Strike'
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Postby Vegetable » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:12 am

I have a feeling they're doing an arc where everyone starts out antagonistic and learns to get along a bit better, but yeah, it's still all wrong.

What they did to the Klingons is especially terrible. It's just "cut away to see the bad guys" garbage.
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Postby Vegetable » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:17 am

Also lol at making the monster something a writer saw watching Cosmos and name dropping Elon Musk
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Postby Zardoz » Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:25 pm

the titles of the episodes in Discovery are awful/hilarious
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Postby Kwisatz Haderach » Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:27 pm

Mean engineer guy is growing to like Burnham. I don't think they're all jerks at heart. It's Lorca's effect on the crew. For now we just have to draw our positivity from the critter and band camp girl.
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Postby Ted Pikul » Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:30 pm

I like Lorca as a potentially unreliable captain rather than the noble peacemaker

We see glimpses of this TNG with Pressman and O'Brien's captain who went rogue but it's never been explored from this angle
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Postby Kwisatz Haderach » Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:31 pm

Zardoz wrote:the titles of the episodes in Discovery are awful/hilarious


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Postby speakers » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:12 pm

Vegetable wrote:Also lol at making the monster something a writer saw watching Cosmos and name dropping Elon Musk


fucking elon musk
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Postby farmer » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:16 pm

on the one hand name dropping elon musk was ridiculous, but on the other hand it's a space faring civilization and he's the first guy to make privatizing aspects of it practical so it's possible he could do some great whateverthing.
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Postby Guy Incognito » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:17 pm

why would elon musk exist in an earth timeline where the 1990s were a decade of genocidal wars between genetic supermen?
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Postby farmer » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:20 pm

oh does that timeline still apply it's hard to know
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Postby farmer » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:22 pm

this midichlorian mushroom spore shit does seem like it could turn into the genesis device so yeah. maybe their musk was a genetically modified human.
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Postby hiddenicon » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:23 pm

Guy Incognito wrote:why would elon musk exist in an earth timeline where the 1990s were a decade of genocidal wars between genetic supermen?

he was the beastie boys' manager.
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Postby Guy Incognito » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:30 pm

farmer wrote:oh does that timeline still apply it's hard to know


unless it's a third, as yet unannounced timeline, both mainline trek and abrams trek both have the eugenics wars as an important earth milestone event (that's why khan is the main villain in Into Darkness)
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Postby hiddenicon » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:49 pm

we'll realize it's all set in the mirror universe when cg goateed nimoy guests in the season finale.

why shit is so dark.
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Postby davideotape » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:03 am

hiddenicon wrote:
Guy Incognito wrote:why would elon musk exist in an earth timeline where the 1990s were a decade of genocidal wars between genetic supermen?

he was the beastie boys' manager.

Lol
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Postby giant_turtle » Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:24 am

hiddenicon wrote:we'll realize it's all set in the mirror universe when cg goateed nimoy guests in the season finale.

why shit is so dark.

I would be fine with this tbh
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Postby Ted Pikul » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:11 pm

Lorca’s voice has a Don Draper cadence
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Postby Bad craziness » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:51 pm

I'm enjoying this so far but it's bothering me that apparently the imaginary computer voice from 2250 sounds way way worse than a real computer voice in 2017
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Postby Kwisatz Haderach » Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:24 am

Yeah I don't like the computer voice either. And the fact that Burnham was able to outargue the computer into letting her out of the brig was weird
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Postby qmass » Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:16 am

Whenever there is a long, drawn-out Klingon scene, I can't help but look at my phone. The Klingon sections of this show are among the worst thing ever filmed for a Television series. So bad.
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Postby farmer » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:15 pm

thought ep 5 was really solid. doug jones is incredible.

tilly dropping "fuck" and then stamets saying it right after was hilarious.

solidly self-contained ep.

rainn wilson was pretty good! thought they set mudd up well for a return.
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Postby farmer » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:16 pm

oh but every single bit of the klingon shit is utter garbage. they fucked up the prosthetics so, so bad. i dunno if its the acting or the dialogue or both but it all combines into an complete snoozefest.
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Postby chimp » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:22 pm

i tried to watch the first episode of this but yeah the klingon stuff was just so bad i had to stop
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Postby speakers » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:24 pm

db please! love you all
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Postby farmer » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:27 pm

you could honestly skip all the klingon stuff, it's not overlapping at all with the main story other than to just know the klingons are at war with the federation
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Postby chimp » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:34 pm

i also got some pretty racist vibes from the portrayal of the klingons

like the largely white rationalist federation is being threatened by these dark-skinned primitivist dudes who carry torches and speak this guttural language and care a lot about honouring ancestors. i know this is an old criticism
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