Luck (2011) - HBO, Mann, Milch, Hoffman, Nolte

Jesus christ you have to be kidding me.

Postby Motherwell » Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:45 pm

Does HBO GO use some kind of DRM-esque protection?
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Postby Feech La Manna » Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:05 pm

Motherwell wrote:Does HBO GO use some kind of DRM-esque protection?


I dunno, but when you try to do airplay between an iPhone/iPad and an Apple TV you only get audio, not video, which suggests a high level of paranoia.

They need to get their shit together and get their console/streaming device apps out. It's ridiculous to not be able to use it on a TV unless you do a direct HDMI connection to your display.
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Postby whatabout tim » Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:07 pm

Feech La Manna wrote:
Motherwell wrote:Does HBO GO use some kind of DRM-esque protection?


I dunno, but when you try to do airplay between an iPhone/iPad and an Apple TV you only get audio, not video, which suggests a high level of paranoia.

They need to get their shit together and get their console/streaming device apps out. It's ridiculous to not be able to use it on a TV unless you do a direct HDMI connection to your display.


Yea, I've been waiting on the 360 app for ages.
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Postby feral » Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:36 am

I just watched the pilot and it was sublime.
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Postby mattstan » Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:20 am

Phil wrote:http://mubi.com/notebook/posts/and-then-the-camera-goes-up-the-jockeys-ass-a-close-look-at-luck


followed by his first feature, Thief, in 1981.

...

twenty years after Thief, he's one of Luck's leads


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Postby G_S » Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:21 pm

I did that a couple of days ago myself. it feels like one long decade
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Postby dr. badvibes » Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:12 pm

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/tavissmiley/int ... ael-mann/#

not online yet, but should be soon. it also might be on repeat tonight on your local PBS station
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Postby nibelheim » Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:14 pm

ep 2 is great, better than the premier
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Postby super gas » Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:35 am

i assume it's because english is not my native language, but i have problems hearing what nick nolte says. otherwise, fantastic episode. show is living up to its expectations so far.
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Postby Feech La Manna » Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:58 am

After watching this again I gotta say I'm really glad they're doing a race in every episode. They're just beautiful.

I wonder if the contents of Marcus' bag are this show's version of the top of Bill's staircase in John From Cincinnati.

Was that Jewel from Deadwood in the wheelchair? Love seeing Dan Dority again.
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Postby Feech La Manna » Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:02 am

Also Gary Stevens is a much more passable actor than Shaun and Kai were
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Postby super gas » Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:54 am

Horse claiming is pretty weird. I read a book about it a while back but it's still pretty abstract to me.

Btw, the horse he tried to claim, was it the same horse that they singled out in the first episode?
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Postby Baby Museum » Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:20 am

pleaSe tell me this is up.
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Postby fester » Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:29 am

super gas wrote:Horse claiming is pretty weird. I read a book about it a while back but it's still pretty abstract to me.

Btw, the horse he tried to claim, was it the same horse that they singled out in the first episode?


Yeah after the horse won he put it up for claim with taped up legs to knock its odds back down
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Postby super gas » Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:45 pm

right, but are all races with claimed horses? will someone be able to claim the greek's horse when it runs?
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Postby Feech La Manna » Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:46 pm

no that was specifically a "claim race" that only happens once every so often

I still don't really understand why Escalante would be willing to risk what actually happened, but maybe there's more to it
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Postby pissydan » Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:50 pm

super gas wrote:right, but are all races with claimed horses? will someone be able to claim the greek's horse when it runs?


no, that was a "claims race". in that particular race, all horses were up for claim.
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Postby pissydan » Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:51 pm

Feech La Manna wrote:Was that Jewel from Deadwood in the wheelchair?


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Postby pissydan » Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:52 pm

Feech La Manna wrote:no that was specifically a "claim race" that only happens once every so often

I still don't really understand why Escalante would be willing to risk what actually happened, but maybe there's more to it

yeah, i didnt get it either. sandbagging for later odds maybe?
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Postby fester » Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:57 pm

If he's only doing it to pad his odds you'd think he'd tell the jockey not to kick so much ass in that race.

I don't totally get it either. So far the show seems to throw a lot of incomprehensible horse racing shit at you up front and then explain it all later, so I'm not too worried about getting lost.
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Postby super gas » Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:38 pm

fester wrote:If he's only doing it to pad his odds you'd think he'd tell the jockey not to kick so much ass in that race.

I don't totally get it either. So far the show seems to throw a lot of incomprehensible horse racing shit at you up front and then explain it all later, so I'm not too worried about getting lost.


well you have to place your claim BEFORE the race. so he made the horse look weak with the bandages and all, hoping no one would claim it.

this is from the beginning of the book Lord of Misrule (pretty good book) which is about horse racing,

Without claiming races there would be no racing at all. Owners would avoid the hazards of fair competition. Instead, they would enter their better animals in races against sixth- and twelfth-raters that occupy most stalls at most tracks… This would leave little or no purse money for the owners of cheap horses. The game would parish.

The claiming races changes all that. When he enters his animal in a race for $5,000 claiming horses, the owner literally puts it up for sale at that price. Any other owner can file a claim before the race and lead the beast away after the running. The original owner collects the horse’s share of the purse, if it earned any, but loses the horse at a fair price.

That is, he loses the horse at a fair price if it is a $5,000 horse. If it were a $10,000 horse, in a race for cheaper ones, the owner would get the purse and collect a large bet at odds perhaps 1 to 10, but the horse would be bought by any other barn at less than its true value.

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Postby gambra » Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:03 am

I had to stop watching Ep 2 to read up on claiming because it was making zero sense to me. I also need to go grab a subtitle file.
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Postby Motherwell » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:53 am

glad the second episode finally turned up

also,

HBO's Luck has had to euthanize two horses already
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Postby super gas » Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:13 am

it's weird that they say "already" as if it happened during the first two episodes... whole season has been filmed. it's sad though.
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Postby Motherwell » Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:22 am

agreed, they didn't really think that through
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Postby Macgregor » Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:24 am

gambra wrote:I also need to go grab a subtitle file.

If you find any somewhere that actually work please let us know

The few I bothered to look for turned out to be bullshit
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Postby gambra » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:51 pm

www.subscene.com and search for Luck S01, try match up the file name that you have downloaded already.
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Postby starttomelt » Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:08 pm

man, hbo's business model and hbo go etc but ratings for ep 2 were really bad.
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Postby gambra » Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:21 pm

Maybe that might have something to do with a particular sporting event that was still on.
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Postby Feech La Manna » Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:23 pm

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