Dark Knight Rises - SPOILERS start pg 31

[sigmonrunner]

Burton's first Batman is still the best.

[badhat]

the thing about DKR is that as far as plot goes, the villain's nefarious master plan is one of the least stupid and illogical nefarious master plans. basically he just wants to cut off and enslave a whole city, kill all of its rich people while the world watches and blow it up. pretty solid and refreshingly straightforward.

[nefarious]

goddammit badhat.

[Kafkaesque]

Burton's second Batman is still the best.

[nefarious]

Burton's second Batman is still the best.

ahaha

[badhat]

goddammit badhat.

what now

[badhat]

oh nm

i get it

[sigmonrunner]

i wish burton got to do a third. billy dee williams as two faced would have been neat.

[Poptone]

"you are in for a show tonight"

i forgot about this, i hated that cop so much. i felt like, "wow, that guy must have practiced his two lines so much at home the night before."

Amazes me that this whole exchange was flubbed so hard by Nolan. I mean, just fucking film that scene from the 'Dark Knight Returns' graphic novel. I can't find a scan of the pages I'm looking for.

[5% Tint]

i think you messed with his vanity search

[badhat]

yeah i figured that out

[5% Tint]

yeah i was slow on the response

I'd like to think the Joker would have been fairly prominent in this if Ledger was around

[Poptone]

Time to start hoping that two-part animated Dark Knight Returns will wash this awful taste from my mouth.

[cram]

Remember when cram didn't know that TMNT was a comic first?

Your memory fails you

Oh?

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you are...not that bright

[badhat]

i think everything else i could have lived with better if the blake thing had happened as a part of the story instead of a cutesy little epilogue... like if he'd actually had to step up and put on the suit in the 3rd act cuz wayne was too phyicially weak.

having the broken back thing basically fixed by a chiropractic adjustment was fuckign terrible. as was having bruce decide to run away and live happily with selina.

[housesitter]

welp

[Poptone]

i think everything else i could have lived with better if the blake thing had happened as a part of the story instead of a cutesy little epilogue... like if he'd actually had to step up and put on the suit in the 3rd act cuz wayne was too phyicially weak.

Or was actually, y'know, trained by Wayne. If all it takes to be Batman is the training beat cops get, then why give a shit about Wayne going through the LoS ninja wringer? At the end of the film, Blake is no better prepared than the copycat Batmans in TDK, only with better hockey pads.

I probably wouldn't really care about something like that if I gave two shits about the Black character to begin with, though.

[number none]

Blake's Batman was clearly just going to be a glorified marketing man. Showing up on the occasional lightning illuminated rooftop, drive bys in the Batmobile, that kind of thing.

[Poptone]

Blake's Batman was clearly just going to be a glorified marketing man. Showing up on the occasional lightning illuminated rooftop, drive bys in the Batmobile, that kind of thing.

costume like a european football jersey

[weezy]

i can't relate to the people saying they enjoyed it as "candy" or whatever either. As others have said, there wasn't one memorable moment of action in this thing. Even Batman's big return ("you are in for a show tonight") was really poorly handled. Avengers just worked better on every conceivable level.

this was my big problem. i thought there was zero candy factor, zero entertainment factor, zero fist pump factor. i guess a good deal of the most memorable parts of dark knight were ledger/joker stuff, but there were still a handful of scenes of batman just being batman that i sort of consider iconic in terms of what this trilogy left with us. when the bat bike ejects out of the batmobile, the whole extraction scene, etc. a lot of memorable stuff.

there's very little of that in this one. the first bane fight was incredibly affecting, the coda was obviously pretty fun though totally low hanging fruit. it all just seemed almost deliberately devoid of crowd-pleasing action, whereas that's pretty much all dark knight was doing up until that muddled last 40 minutes or so.

these are things people have said, but i can't get past it.

also, as someone mentioned earlier, there was just very little batman in this. maybe that reflects some of the comics or something--greater gotham concerns, supporting cast playing a bigger part, etc--and i did like how blake and selena fit into the story here, but it was almost like an origins movie for those two.

[sigmonrunner]

i still don't really get why batman beat bane the second time... or am I forgetting some major thing?

[Rhodes]

you are...not that bright

[weezy]

OK and here's a dumb question for batman comixx experts. are there books in which robin just takes over as batman? either before becoming sidekick robin or after?

i always only knew him as the lil batman buddy, and even after seeing bruce & selina in italy i thought we'd get a shot of robin seeing some sort of robin suit that was waiting for him in the cave or something. it wasn't totally clear to me that it was a passing of the mantle thing.

[badhat]

i still don't really get why batman beat bane the second time... or am I forgetting some major thing?

the only thing i can think to rationalize it is he knew the mask was a weakness the second time so he went straight at it.

but thats sort of a stretch.

[deadaswarhol]

OK and here's a dumb question for batman comixx experts. are there books in which robin just takes over as batman? either before becoming sidekick robin or after?

i always only knew him as the lil batman buddy, and even after seeing bruce & selina in italy i thought we'd get a shot of robin seeing some sort of robin suit that was waiting for him in the cave or something. it wasn't totally clear to me that it was a passing of the mantle thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman:_Kn ... rodigal.22

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[Rhodes]

OK and here's a dumb question for batman comixx experts. are there books in which robin just takes over as batman? either before becoming sidekick robin or after?

i always only knew him as the lil batman buddy, and even after seeing bruce & selina in italy i thought we'd get a shot of robin seeing some sort of robin suit that was waiting for him in the cave or something. it wasn't totally clear to me that it was a passing of the mantle thing.

There've been multiple Batmen. Wikipedia is your friend.

[Rhodes]

deadaswarhol beat me to it.

[surly]

i still don't really get why batman beat bane the second time... or am I forgetting some major thing?

the only thing i can think to rationalize it is he knew the mask was a weakness the second time so he went straight at it.

but thats sort of a stretch.

I think it was partly that (thanks to the friendly prison guy), and partly the whole concept that Batman had since been exposed to the same hardships that made Bane so strong, putting them on a more level playing field. or something

[housesitter]

On that point about a lack of Batman-being-Batman scenes, my biggest disappointment with the movie was probably the lack of gadgets: tranq bat darts, the bat(wing), and some EMP wizardry. am I forgetting anything?

I guess the plastic explosive launcher and "Detective Mode" vision from TDK aren't major improvements, but I just wanted more "Detective Mode" Batman and I guess this wasn't really the story for that.

[badhat]

thought it was pretty funny that they trimmed the hell out of the shot of the prisoners leaving the jail with all the guns to like a blink after the longer version in the trailer looked so stupid.