PROMETHEUS (euro-spoilers start on pg 22)

[fester]

so basically god = "the gods"(shaw asks who created the engineers when asked why she still believes in god), the engineers = prometheus, man = man, black goo = fire, xenomorphs = livers being eaten by eagles, ALSO man(weyland) = prometheus, david = man, black goo in charlie's drink = fire, and xenomorphs once again = livers being eaten by eagles

?????????

[Rhodes]

Serves Charlie right for getting drunk after the first fucking day of the mission.

[fester]

like the point is that weyland mistakes himself for a god when he's really just another prometheus, and he's gonna get his shit fucked for it, because god is god

[Rhodes]

Big surprise.

Money doesn't buy brains.

[ifear]

oh noes we didn't find live aliens in our first hour on an alien planet i'ma get shitfaced

[Rhodes]

Charlie was such a loser.

[Architecture]

This movie was phenomenally dumb, but that has been covered. Anyway, some thoughts:

-The music was horrendous. Like real, real, real awful. The patriotic bugle is so woefully out of place. Why didn't we clone Jerry Goldsmith, or at least cryogenically freeze him?
-Why was landing on the planet so goddamned easy? The Nostromo detatching from its cargo and touching down on LV-426 is this fucking grandiose moment--it's Ridley Scott saying, "hey, space travel is fucking dangerous!" Prometheus makes exploration look like a walk in the park
-Movie looked fucking awesome in IMAX 3D, but I guess that's the whole problem--everything was secondary to the aesthetic of the movie

[Rhodes]

I forgot Jerry Goldsmith was dead.

[dr. badvibes]

i came so close to seeing this again tonight and then it collapsed again. i might actually have to go with my sister next week

there were no awkward blowjob/droidrape scenes in this right

[waldojeffers1]

i guess the (very vague) implication that roman nosed pasty white people are the seed of earthly evolution is kinda (very vaguely) racist, now that i think about it.

there was a movement among occultist nazis that believed super-intelligent aliens (aryans) came to earth on a frozen "ice moon" that crashed into the ocean and formed atlantis, and that they were later dispersed throughout the world and interbred with the native earthling ape-creatures (blacks and jews) and that the nazi project was just about reversing this contamination and bringing us back to the kind of civilization the aliens had

heavily influenced by this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welteislehre

[Rhodes]

Oh my god the Nazis were fucking lunatics.

[waldojeffers1]

himmler also believed that if babies were conceived in the presence of dead aryan warriors, the babies' souls would absorb strength and honor from the aryan ghosts

so like he published a pamphlet discussing the pros and cons of the different graveyards in germany, like comparing the heroism and aryan-ness of the bodies buried in each one, and had them distributed to newly married couples so that people could go and conceive children on the benches in the graveyards.

[waldojeffers1]

I know it's not the same thing but when you watch a republican primary debate and they all say that darwinian evolution is "just a theory" it makes me think of this stuff.

[Rhodes]

I'm such a sucker for the crazy Nazi trope tho.

Like, how much of the literature and movies I enjoy features nutty occultists running around digging up artifacts (a lot).

[alex]

pretty dumb but

Originally in the draft there’s a scene in the movie where we see David with his headset on and he’s talking to someone, and we don’t know who it is, and he gets confronted by Vickers [Charlize Theron]. There’s a scene in the script that we decided not to shoot, where we see the inside of that dream, and basically David takes a jet ski out with a beautiful woman in a bikini, to a yacht, and on the yacht is Weyland – played by Guy, without old-age make-up: this is his dream. They have a scene together and in it David says, “The engineers are dead, they’re all gone, mission failure,” and Weyland says, “Go back and try harder.” We rewrote it so that we were going to play Weyland’s identity closed, give the audience a sense that David was talking to someone on the ship but not view them.

[various artists]

Oh well, at least this film made me go back and watch Alien & Aliens back2back.
that was fun.

[Smiling Penner-Lite]

One of the best looking films I've ever seen. Certainly the first half was entertaining.

Everytime I saw Weyland I thought "it's Miracle Max!"

[grizzleb]

Just watched Alien 3 and I'm struggling to see why it's not thought of highly. It's not quite as good as the first two but comparing it to Prometheus has pretty much all the thing that that lacks, nice pacing, good characterisation and dialogue. Forgot how beautiful Sigourney Weaver is too.

[Rhodes]

My dad and my grade-school art teacher both had things for Sigourney and I didn't understand why until I got a little older.

I mean,

[spix et chicho]

elbows are too pointy.

[Kafkaesque]

"so what's my motivation?"

[lost_blues]

HOW IS THIS THREAD 50+ PAGES THIS MOVIE WAS HORSESHIT

[internethandle]

This is bullshit. Total Christian propaganda. It's like Tom Cruise saying Battleship Earth isn't about Scientology.

can we ban catatronic based on this post for fucks sake

[internethandle]

scott is part of the cia (christian infiltration augurceyyyyy)

[baleen]

-The music was horrendous. Like real, real, real awful. The patriotic bugle is so woefully out of place. Why didn't we clone Jerry Goldsmith, or at least cryogenically freeze him?
-Why was landing on the planet so goddamned easy? The Nostromo detatching from its cargo and touching down on LV-426 is this fucking grandiose moment--it's Ridley Scott saying, "hey, space travel is fucking dangerous!" Prometheus makes exploration look like a walk in the park

these are two solid points. the bugle seemed lifted from another score entirely, and seemed always to be in scenes best served by silence.

[Guy Incognito]

this felt like 2/3 of a complete movie, and those two portions weren't sure if they were alien or star trek. what a mess.

if avengers turns out to be the best from a pretty promising movie summer, that'll be a, uh, surprise

[orange farmer]

It's always a little confusing to me why people will spend $100 million making a movie and not check details with a little googling. There's plenty of reasonable reasons to not be scientifically accurate in a film, mostly for dramatic or budgetary purposes. But some inaccuracies just make me think nobody in production cared that much.

In that scene right before Theron and Elba get it on, Theron says something like "yeah, I flew half a billion miles away from all other men in order to find a man." She's very specific about the half billion miles. She doesn't just casually rattle off a nice round billion. She says half a billion. Which would get you from Earth to roughly Jupiter. What the fuck? Theron's character seems to be on top of shit, and she doesn't know how big space is? All that would have been required here is a google search to see how far away stars are in miles. Bump it to trillions. Or be more vague and say "halfway across the galaxy" or something. It's an incredibly minor detail but it sorta points to the haphazard camel we have been presented, all show, little substance, no fact checking.

[badhat]

yeha neil degrasse tyson bitched about that too.

your larger point is so true. i just do not understand how a script can pass though so many hands at so many levels and still come out so sloppy and stupid.

[Mr. Science]

I was talking about this today and had the realization that I enjoyed MIB3 quite a bit more. Never would have believed it a month ago.

[Blackeyed]

The melody of that repeated song kept making me think of: