Game of Thrones Season 2 (NO SPOILERS THREAD)

[Dennis Moore]

No it's 'Kings Layer' because he fucks all the kings.

[dragon jeans]

I guess what the last thing was getting at is if I were the Quarthians, I wouldn't trust that she wouldn't use our resources and then just kill the shit out of us w/ her Dragons because she's already pretty "fuck the world" as is, and there would be nothing stopping her after she regained power.

[surly]

but as we said, the dragons are still not yet in any position to kill anybody. and, not to reiterate a line from the show or anything, but 'it's qarth.'

[fuckles]

QARTH

[dragon jeans]

I realize they aren't now, but in the future they will be, and helping her now is no guarantee that she won't just kill them in the future because fuck it, why not, she's got the only dragons.

Point being, if I were the Qarthians, I'd kill dem dragz just to be safe.

[Self Destructive Zone]

I couldn't handle the prostitute torture scene

violence on tv hasn't bothered with the exception of a couple moments on the sopranos, but this wrecked me. something about the way that poor girl kept looking back during the early stages to see if he was enjoying it

[worrywort]

i'm sure it at least occurred to the qarthians that they could always take their time, get to know what's up with the dragons, and see if they can betray dany later if a mutually beneficial deal can't be reached. they certainly know the targaeryan connection, but just as distant history, so they are wary and all, but nobody really knows what's up with the dragons (including dany it seems). i'm sure they're all doing risk assessments of various outcomes, but to a certain degree everyone is winging it.

[sky cracks open]

why do they call jaime lannister kingslayer? im assuming this was a season 1 or pre detail that i missed/forgot

because he killed the mad king

While being a member of the Knightsguard.

A knight of the Kingsguard, but yeah.

He was basically King Aerys' main bodyguard, and then he turned on him during Robert's Rebellion.

The same position that The Hound now holds with Joffrey.

[Duke]

also there's the fact that pretty much everyone right now looks at dany as a dumb teenage girl that can be easily manipulated

for good reason

[Hot Piece]

when stannis and melisandre are burning the idols on the beach, where are they exactly? and was stannis just hanging out there for all of season 1?

[number none]

that's his home, Dragonstone. It's a volcanic Island and the place where the Targaryens first settled when they came to Westeros

[Toofer_Spurlock]

because he killed the mad king

While being a member of the Knightsguard.

A knight of the Kingsguard, but yeah.

He was basically King Aerys' main bodyguard, and then he turned on him during Robert's Rebellion.

The same position that The Hound now holds with Joffrey.

My mind mix-mashes the Kingsguard and the Knights Watch sometimes.

[number none]

It's the Night's Watch

[Ted Pikul]

Someone who takes the dragons from Dany could still sell or exhibit them, even if they couldn't control them

[Toofer_Spurlock]

It's the Night's Watch

Well there's no reason I would know that.

[surly]

they wear black, 'the sword in the darkness' etc etc

[Toofer_Spurlock]

Sure, it makes sense. But it's not as if during the show someone has been like, "Oh, btw bro Night is for night time in our name." And I don't believe they have any signs up.

[number none]

good thing you have people round here to fill you in on these details though eh?

[Toofer_Spurlock]

I'm the fortunate few.

[arrête papa!]

While looking for a more detailed map of Westeros, I came across this, which is pretty interesting, even if some of it is speculative.

I came across this guy's page a few weeks ago. I too was taken a back by the scale of the Eastern continent. I'ev always been annoyed that Martin doesn't include more maps of the East in the books, but appreciate that the maps included are supposed to have been created by those from Westeros, and reflect their limited knowledge of the rest of the world.

The author of the map includes an email between he and George R.R. Martin which is interesting:

Sent: Thursday 1 March 2012

This is a very handsome map. And based on the information you have, it's quite good.

But of course there's lots of information you don't have, so it's not accurate. There are certain things -- the geography and location of the Summer Islands, the placement of Qarth and the Jade Gates, everything east of Slaver's Bay and the Dothraki Sea... that you would have no way of knowing.

> Of course having now finished the map I discover there is to be a Map of Ice and Fire book published later this year which will no doubt contain an official world map. So I may have wasted some of my time here but I'm sure I can adapt what I've done to match the official maps and that will give me a good background to build the animation on.

Yes, I'm afraid so. I've been working on maps for the Bantam map book for most of the last week. Including lots of maps of places we have never seen before, and a "known world" map that goes as far east as Asshai. (Not a true world map, of course. If my world contains analogues of the Americas, Australia, Antarctica, and the like, the people of the Seven Kingdoms are unaware of them, so it did not seem right for the readers to know more than the characters.

> I appreciate you don't have time for more than a cursory look over this and it won't match the real maps you're working on but I thought you might get a kick out of seeing it all the same.

I did. Thanks for letting me have a look.

George RR Martin

Also, there is a link to a page with more info about this upcoming 'Lands of Ice and Fire' maps project to be published later this year. http://www.westeros.org/ASoWS/News/Entr ... _and_Fire/

[ecto]

just caught up with the last two eps. so good

lols at the charles widmore thing from a few pages ago. haev you seen who they casted as davos??

[pana]

[sky cracks open]

Sure, it makes sense. But it's not as if during the show someone has been like, "Oh, btw bro Night is for night time in our name." And I don't believe they have any signs up.

Well their oath wouldn't make much sense if you replaced Night with Knight. Knight gathers?

"Night gathers, and now my watch
begins. It shall not end until my death. I
shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no
children. I shall wear no crowns and win
no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I
am the sword in the darkness. I am the
watcher on the walls. I am the fire that
burns against the cold, the light that brings
the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers,
the shield that guards the realms of men. I
pledge my life and honor to the Night's
Watch, for this night and all the nights to come."

[Kafkaesque]

the demonic goo residue on her leg is a nice touch.

[The Emperor's Son]

edit: wrong thread

[Ted Pikul]

I was gonna make fun of Toofer for not knowing the Night's Watch, but I've talked to a few people who are confused this season. It seems like they've forgotten details from season 1, plus everyone is confused about Stannis

[ifear]

yeah, it took me until when they say the oath in s01 to be certain that it wasn't knight's watch, and that shit's easy to forget if you haven't rewatched it recently

[fester]

When this happened my wife made a pretty good tar baby joke.

[fuckles]

based on the map intros, is it okay to assume this takes place in a hollow earth?

[nefarious]

thats pretty much what happens when you don't just read the books.