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Postby Infinite Jost » Sun Apr 29, 2018 3:19 pm

i honestly can't find it, they might have scrubbed it after the outcry
i remember them trying to defend by pointing out they also published an earlier article decrying him which, lol whatever
you still published an article by people calling him the left answer to putin even though he's racist scum
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Postby waldojeffers1 » Sun Apr 29, 2018 3:32 pm

hmm

sean guillory is pretty good on russia stuff usually

as a central asianist I harbor particular dislike for navalny but he is still a sort of canary in the putin coal mine and to some extent he can be useful for left purposes (a lot of the people who come out to his rallies say they don't like or support him either, but they are just taking advantage of the opportunity to go out to the street)

calling him a nazi is a little much
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Postby Infinite Jost » Sun Apr 29, 2018 3:39 pm

ok i'll go with nationalist
whatever
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Postby waldojeffers1 » Sun Apr 29, 2018 3:41 pm

yeah I'm not defending him, he ran for moscow mayor in 2012 on a heavily anti-immigrant platform and literally compared uzbeks to cockroaches in one of his videos

but I think sean guillory is conscious of that and wary of it but also sees the appeal of the anti-corruption campaign for getting other kinds of people out into the streets
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Postby Julius Sumner Miller » Sun Apr 29, 2018 3:45 pm

Brexit seems like a clearly obviously good left position as I have posted here before, and as Jeremy Corbyn has argued.
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Postby Sobieski » Sun Apr 29, 2018 4:28 pm

Kenny wrote:What are some good foundational introductory texts to socialism to give to someone. I feel like I'm good at arguing it emotionally but can't give a good detailed argument

Petty one thing you might want to look at it is early British trade union and the fabians

Also in the late 1800s there was this socialist named William Morris that was involved in a bunch of unions that also wrote fantasy that inspired Tolkien and stuff
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Postby Kenny » Sun Apr 29, 2018 4:32 pm

Dude, I'm a huge William Morris fan. One of the things I did on my week between jobs recent was to visit the William Morris Gallery.

I've read News From Nowhere a couple of times and a few of his fantasy books (My favorite is the House of the Wulfings)

I honstely think it's amazing that a man like William Morris with so many talents existed in the world
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That’s awesome, it’d be neat to see his work in person. You probably know way more about him than I do

the more I learn about that dude the more interesting he seems
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Postby quilty » Sun Apr 29, 2018 5:53 pm

one of my old avs was george harrison wearing a william morris coat

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Speaking of William Morris this Aeon essay is interesting

https://aeon.co/essays/why-the-utopian- ... 0-70469053
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Julius Sumner Miller wrote:I assume most people saw this kickstarter for the jacobin socialism documentary. The trailer doesn't look great but I donated anyway:

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dunno where else to post this but this is killing me


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look at this good, not bad, tweet

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Current poll, open to anyone, asking folks to rank their favorite left publications. Found out about quite a few I wasn't aware of and am now following.

Also, you have the option of identifying your primary political perspective as reactionary, militarist, or identitarian, among others.

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Postby antoine » Thu May 31, 2018 3:10 pm

Hell yeah Bernie. (Fuck Disney)

The Walt Disney Company is an enormously profitable corporation worth somewhere in the neighborhood of $150 billion. Last year, it made $9 billion in profits and rewarded its CEO, Bob Iger, with a compensation package worth up to $423 million over a four year period. And as a result of the Trump tax cuts, they were given an additional $1.6 billion.

At the same time — and this is a national disgrace — employees at the company’s theme park in Anaheim, California are paid so poorly that many of them are literally living in a tent city not far from the park.

According to one recent study, nearly 1 in 10 workers employed at the park reported being homeless in the past two years, more than 2 in 3 say they are food insecure, and 3 out of 4 employees say they do not make enough money for their basic needs.

This is not what Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck are supposed to be about. This does not sound like the “happiest place on Earth” to me.

Now, I could be wrong, but I don’t expect you will see the plight of these low-wage workers at Disney discussed tonight on ABC, which is owned by Disney. Nor do I think you will be hearing too much about income and wealth inequality in the mainstream media.

That is why I am heading to California this weekend to rally with these workers and union organizers fighting to demand that Disney pay all of its workers a living wage.

Those workers could use your support as well:

Please sign my petition to Disney CEO Bob Iger: The greed at the Disney Company has got to end. It is time to pay all Disney employees a living wage of at least $15 per hour. Nothing less.

It is long past time that we, as a nation, stop worshipping the corporate greed of Disney and businessmen like Bob Iger, their CEO.

While he may be regarded as a brilliant and successful businessman among his peers in the financial, media, and political elite, the truth is that the way Bob Iger and Disney treat their workers represents much of what is wrong with contemporary capitalism.

This is a company, and a CEO, that accepted an obscene tax cut gifted to them by the Trump administration and Republicans in Congress, publicly promised to anyone who would listen a $1,000 bonus for all of their employees, and then withheld that bonus from some union employees unless they agreed to a contract that gave them a tiny raise to a wage that is still a starvation wage.

This is a company, and a CEO, that in addition to paying their workers here at home extremely low wages, employs many thousands of people in China to manufacture their products sold at Disney stores and online.

This type of greed and ruthless capitalism is not an economic model that we should be embracing. It is not to be celebrated. We can do better, and we must do better.

That is why this weekend I am heading to California to stand with Disney’s workers and to demand that Disney pay them wages and benefits which allow them to live with dignity and security.

I want to bring your voice with me. Make them hear the outrage that so many of us feel with regard to this type of economic exploitation..

In addition to my event with Disney workers and union leaders, I will visit Carson, California for a town hall with port truck drivers, who handle 40 percent of consumer goods and merchandise imported into our country – and warehouse workers serving the Port of Los Angeles and Long Beach. These are some of the most abused and exploited workers in America, and I intend to support them and demand that they are paid a living wage with decent benefits.

I am also very excited to join Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors and Real Justice co-founder Shaun King for a rally to discuss the steps we must take to radically reform our broken criminal justice system

I hope you will stay tuned to our social media channels for live video from these stops. And I will be in touch when they are over.

The Political Revolution continues.

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Postby mcwop23 » Thu May 31, 2018 3:12 pm

income inequality and health care

the only thing dems need to run on
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Postby antoine » Thu May 31, 2018 4:12 pm

mcwop23 wrote:income inequality and health care

the only thing dems need to run on

They won't
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Postby walt whitman » Thu May 31, 2018 4:53 pm

yeah income inequality has sort of been the big elephant in the room for libs since time immemorial
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Postby tgk » Thu May 31, 2018 5:00 pm

mcwop23 wrote:income inequality and health care

the only thing dems need to run on


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Postby quilty » Thu May 31, 2018 5:05 pm

the dems actually *need* to run on climate change, but no they won’t run on that either

i’m anticipating some cynical early-round wonkoffs about the specifics around various jobs guarantees, before the media takes over and makes it fully about #resisting trump

if bernie runs and sticks to health care i think he might actually win the whole thing though- hope he doesn’t fuck it up
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Postby silverapples » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:40 am

anyone read psychopolitics by byung-chul han?
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Postby silverapples » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:37 am

it's really fucking good. it pointed me to this too which is similarly revelatory http://www.krisis.org/1999/manifesto-against-labour/

Those who do not work (labour) shall not eat! This cynical principle is still in effect; all the more nowadays when it becomes hopelessly obsolete. It is really an absurdity: Never before the society was that much a labour society as it is now when labour itself is made superfluous. On its deathbed labour turns out to be a totalitarian power that does not tolerate any gods besides itself. Seeping through the pores of everyday life into the psyche, labour controls both thought and action. No expense or pain is spared to artificially prolong the lifespan of the „labour idol“. The paranoid cry for jobs justifies the devastation of natural resources on an intensified scale even if the destructive effect for humanity was realised a long time ago. The very last obstacles to the full commercialisation of any social relationship may be cleared away uncritically, if only there is a chance for a few miserable jobs to be created. „Any job is better than no job“ became a confession of faith, which is exacted from everybody nowadays.
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Postby Legion » Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:59 pm



you guys hear about the drama with Jacobin's journal Catalyst? kinda sucks

Dear Friends,

Catalyst has stood out as a bright spot in a dark time for radical politics. I have served from the outset as co-editor of the journal along with Vivek Chibber. Nevertheless, Chibber, backed by publisher Bhaskar Sunkara, has seen fit to remove me from my position -- without any warning, pretense of consultation, or plausible justification. A number of contributors to Catalyst are now stepping in to try to limit the damage that this coup will inflict. Their statement below represents the first step in the campaign.

Robert Brenner
Catalyst Contributors’ Protest Robert Brenner’s Dismissal from the Catalyst Co-editorship and Demand for his Reinstatement

We, the undersigned, are contributors to Catalyst, who have published or have been commissioned to publish articles in the journal. We are writing to protest the removal of Robert Brenner from his position as co-editor of the journal and to demand his reinstatement.

Co-editor Vivek Chibber, backed by publisher Bhaskar Sunkara, who is also publisher of Jacobin, made this move unilaterally, without warning, and without any pretense of consultation. Chibber has refused to discuss it with Brenner or to consider Brenner’s proposals for re-configuring Catalyst’s editorial procedures to meet Chibber’s concerns. Nor has Chibber been willing to talk with several of the signers of this statement who contacted him to work out a resolution.

Catalyst is produced by Jacobin, which has provided indispensable support for the journal across the board in terms of finance, production, design, and circulation, while granting its editors total autonomy in terms of its content, especially politics. Jacobin has established itself as one as of the left’s more important institutions. We want to make it abundantly clear that that this letter is in no way an attack on Jacobin and that we have no desire to harm it in any manner. Just the opposite.

So far, Catalyst has been a striking success. It has defined itself as a radical political journal devoted to further developing Marxist theory as an essential guide for political intervention. It has insisted that this development requires dialogue with non-Marxist radical traditions, as well as dissident strains of Marxism typically excluded from major socialist journals, and it has placed a high priority on seeing to it that they are represented in its pages.

Catalyst’s point of departure is that the fundamental goal of working class emancipation has not changed. But it recognizes that continuing transformations in capitalism, the working class, and society/culture have raised different problems than those posed in the last great period of mass mobilization of the 1960s and 1970s.

The journal has thus tried to nurture and publish new theoretical and empirical work to address these changes. Especially due to the globalized nature of the economy and its crisis, which has fueled austerity, neoliberalism, and a growing rightwing populism virtually everywhere, the working class and the left across the world now confront the same challenges simultaneously. Catalyst therefore sees building a coordinated, international political response as an immediate priority.

Catalyst has clearly struck a chord on the left, attracting a remarkable level of interest and rapid growth of subscriptions in a relatively short period of time. Robert Brenner, who co-edited the journal along with Vivek Chibber, was the journal’s founder and has been its central motivating force. Taking take nothing away from Chibber, who has made indispensable contributions in every respect. Brenner was uniquely responsible for enabling the journal to establish itself and flourish, contributing more than his share in every aspect of Catalyst’s work. Given the journal’s success, his dismissal from the position of co-editor makes no sense and is self-destructive for the journal. He must be reinstated.

Chibber, backed by Sunkara, has justified the change in editorship by claiming serious shortcomings in Brenner’s performance as co-editor. According to them, he did not shoulder his proper share of the editing, tended to be late with the editing he did do, and failed to find replacements when he failed to complete jobs on time, compelling Chibber to swoop in to save the day. The burden of Chibber’s case is that he essentially functioned as editor-in-chief, taking the main responsibility for the journal, and that Brenner assumed a lesser and subordinate role but refused to acknowledge it.

This claim has no validity. Quite the contrary. Brenner did a disproportionate share of the editing, both quantitatively and qualitatively, and did most of the substantial editing jobs, as can easily be demonstrated and directly documented. Many of us can personally attest to the high quality of Brenner’s editing, which resulted in making our articles significantly better.

Brenner forwarded to Sunkara and Chibber a systematic and comprehensive response, in which he refuted their arguments point by point, with accompanying evidence. (See Appendix on Distribution of Editing, with detailed documentation, in email accompanying this statement.) But they refused to reply, and, up to this point, have failed to counter any of his assertions. We can only conclude that their case against him was no more than window dressing to provide a cover for what they intended to do in any case.

Even if, for argument’s sake, Chibber had done much more work for the journal than Brenner, we would still have to condemn this takeover as unprincipled and unproductive. What the journal needs now to build most effectively on its success is to broaden its editorial capacity, not narrow it further. A larger editorial board reflecting a greater range of left political perspectives would surely enhance the journal.

It gives us no pleasure to write this letter, but we feel we have no choice. The left, yet again, is digging its own grave, undermining its own achievements. No sooner did Catalyst establish itself as a useful institution, than it was dismantled from within via a Chibber-initiated coup. Given that the expulsion is so plainly self-destructive, it is actually quite difficult to figure out what really motivated it. A single individual’s grab for power and recognition? An unstated political agenda?

Whatever was behind it, the move must be reversed. We therefore call on Sunkara, who as publisher has final authority, and Chibber to re-instate Brenner. We ourselves hereby announce that we will not contribute to Catalyst unless and until Brenner is brought back as co-editor. We call on all others to similarly refuse to cooperate with the journal, as authors or in other capacities, until Chibber and Sunkara make that happen. We encourage those who support this effort to let Chibber and Sunkara know your opinion by emailing them directly.

Click here to email Chibber and Sunkara.

Signers:

Mike Davis
Aijaz Ahmad
Sam Ashman
Sam Farber
Mike Goldfield
Costas Lapavitsas
CK Lee
Zach Levenson
Isidro Lopez
Kim Moody
Trevor Ngwane
Mike Parker
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Postby alaska » Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:16 pm

That's fucking weird
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Postby Cronos » Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:18 pm

Legion wrote:you guys hear about the drama with Jacobin's journal Catalyst? kinda sucks

Dear Friends,

Catalyst has stood out as a bright spot in a dark time for radical politics. I have served from the outset as co-editor of the journal along with Vivek Chibber. Nevertheless, Chibber, backed by publisher Bhaskar Sunkara, has seen fit to remove me from my position -- without any warning, pretense of consultation, or plausible justification. A number of contributors to Catalyst are now stepping in to try to limit the damage that this coup will inflict. Their statement below represents the first step in the campaign.

Robert Brenner
Catalyst Contributors’ Protest Robert Brenner’s Dismissal from the Catalyst Co-editorship and Demand for his Reinstatement

We, the undersigned, are contributors to Catalyst, who have published or have been commissioned to publish articles in the journal. We are writing to protest the removal of Robert Brenner from his position as co-editor of the journal and to demand his reinstatement.

Co-editor Vivek Chibber, backed by publisher Bhaskar Sunkara, who is also publisher of Jacobin, made this move unilaterally, without warning, and without any pretense of consultation. Chibber has refused to discuss it with Brenner or to consider Brenner’s proposals for re-configuring Catalyst’s editorial procedures to meet Chibber’s concerns. Nor has Chibber been willing to talk with several of the signers of this statement who contacted him to work out a resolution.

Catalyst is produced by Jacobin, which has provided indispensable support for the journal across the board in terms of finance, production, design, and circulation, while granting its editors total autonomy in terms of its content, especially politics. Jacobin has established itself as one as of the left’s more important institutions. We want to make it abundantly clear that that this letter is in no way an attack on Jacobin and that we have no desire to harm it in any manner. Just the opposite.

So far, Catalyst has been a striking success. It has defined itself as a radical political journal devoted to further developing Marxist theory as an essential guide for political intervention. It has insisted that this development requires dialogue with non-Marxist radical traditions, as well as dissident strains of Marxism typically excluded from major socialist journals, and it has placed a high priority on seeing to it that they are represented in its pages.

Catalyst’s point of departure is that the fundamental goal of working class emancipation has not changed. But it recognizes that continuing transformations in capitalism, the working class, and society/culture have raised different problems than those posed in the last great period of mass mobilization of the 1960s and 1970s.

The journal has thus tried to nurture and publish new theoretical and empirical work to address these changes. Especially due to the globalized nature of the economy and its crisis, which has fueled austerity, neoliberalism, and a growing rightwing populism virtually everywhere, the working class and the left across the world now confront the same challenges simultaneously. Catalyst therefore sees building a coordinated, international political response as an immediate priority.

Catalyst has clearly struck a chord on the left, attracting a remarkable level of interest and rapid growth of subscriptions in a relatively short period of time. Robert Brenner, who co-edited the journal along with Vivek Chibber, was the journal’s founder and has been its central motivating force. Taking take nothing away from Chibber, who has made indispensable contributions in every respect. Brenner was uniquely responsible for enabling the journal to establish itself and flourish, contributing more than his share in every aspect of Catalyst’s work. Given the journal’s success, his dismissal from the position of co-editor makes no sense and is self-destructive for the journal. He must be reinstated.

Chibber, backed by Sunkara, has justified the change in editorship by claiming serious shortcomings in Brenner’s performance as co-editor. According to them, he did not shoulder his proper share of the editing, tended to be late with the editing he did do, and failed to find replacements when he failed to complete jobs on time, compelling Chibber to swoop in to save the day. The burden of Chibber’s case is that he essentially functioned as editor-in-chief, taking the main responsibility for the journal, and that Brenner assumed a lesser and subordinate role but refused to acknowledge it.

This claim has no validity. Quite the contrary. Brenner did a disproportionate share of the editing, both quantitatively and qualitatively, and did most of the substantial editing jobs, as can easily be demonstrated and directly documented. Many of us can personally attest to the high quality of Brenner’s editing, which resulted in making our articles significantly better.

Brenner forwarded to Sunkara and Chibber a systematic and comprehensive response, in which he refuted their arguments point by point, with accompanying evidence. (See Appendix on Distribution of Editing, with detailed documentation, in email accompanying this statement.) But they refused to reply, and, up to this point, have failed to counter any of his assertions. We can only conclude that their case against him was no more than window dressing to provide a cover for what they intended to do in any case.

Even if, for argument’s sake, Chibber had done much more work for the journal than Brenner, we would still have to condemn this takeover as unprincipled and unproductive. What the journal needs now to build most effectively on its success is to broaden its editorial capacity, not narrow it further. A larger editorial board reflecting a greater range of left political perspectives would surely enhance the journal.

It gives us no pleasure to write this letter, but we feel we have no choice. The left, yet again, is digging its own grave, undermining its own achievements. No sooner did Catalyst establish itself as a useful institution, than it was dismantled from within via a Chibber-initiated coup. Given that the expulsion is so plainly self-destructive, it is actually quite difficult to figure out what really motivated it. A single individual’s grab for power and recognition? An unstated political agenda?

Whatever was behind it, the move must be reversed. We therefore call on Sunkara, who as publisher has final authority, and Chibber to re-instate Brenner. We ourselves hereby announce that we will not contribute to Catalyst unless and until Brenner is brought back as co-editor. We call on all others to similarly refuse to cooperate with the journal, as authors or in other capacities, until Chibber and Sunkara make that happen. We encourage those who support this effort to let Chibber and Sunkara know your opinion by emailing them directly.

Click here to email Chibber and Sunkara.

Signers:

Mike Davis
Aijaz Ahmad
Sam Ashman
Sam Farber
Mike Goldfield
Costas Lapavitsas
CK Lee
Zach Levenson
Isidro Lopez
Kim Moody
Trevor Ngwane
Mike Parker
Charlie Post
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Pedro Paulo Zahluth Bastos


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Postby Jabberwocky » Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:24 pm

That's really interesting. Having read some of both Chibber and Brenner's work, their methodological approach and interest almost could not be more divergent, which provided a healthy balance of perspectives for the journal. I really liked this project and I hope this does not subvert it going forward. I could also really give a fuck about this type of shit.
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Postby freezinseason » Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:45 pm

silverapples wrote:it's really fucking good. it pointed me to this too which is similarly revelatory http://www.krisis.org/1999/manifesto-against-labour/

Those who do not work (labour) shall not eat! This cynical principle is still in effect; all the more nowadays when it becomes hopelessly obsolete. It is really an absurdity: Never before the society was that much a labour society as it is now when labour itself is made superfluous. On its deathbed labour turns out to be a totalitarian power that does not tolerate any gods besides itself. Seeping through the pores of everyday life into the psyche, labour controls both thought and action. No expense or pain is spared to artificially prolong the lifespan of the „labour idol“. The paranoid cry for jobs justifies the devastation of natural resources on an intensified scale even if the destructive effect for humanity was realised a long time ago. The very last obstacles to the full commercialisation of any social relationship may be cleared away uncritically, if only there is a chance for a few miserable jobs to be created. „Any job is better than no job“ became a confession of faith, which is exacted from everybody nowadays.


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Postby buriedinspace » Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:17 pm

Just went to a 'Rally for Our Lives' event in Greensboro, NC. It was, as one might imagine, a March for Our Lives offshoot, which had several of the principle Parkland students at it. And it was some real milquetoast liberal bullshit, let me tell ya.

Did you know that if there were less school shootings, there would be more STEM students?

Or that it's a shame that Greensboro has less cops than many other cities do?

And that voting Democrat will fix everything but also that dividing yourself into being 'left' and 'right' is divisive and bad? (Very fine folks on both sides, after all)

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Postby Legion » Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:10 pm



I mean, you saw David Hogg hanging with those Proud Boys, right

my take is, whatever, he's young, there's a lot he probably doesn't know – but it's the right time for him to sort things out. you can't be open to any kind of alliance for people in that camp. that's not even good liberalism!

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