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Postby dimetrodons 'r' us » Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:38 pm

Really great work, Florida

For one, I don't want to be known as the guy who randomly goes around and fixes people's computers. Even though I do that.
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Postby mcwop23 » Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:42 pm

what’s great is i literally work in the same building as our concealed permit office

i tell any white person who asks that it’s in a different building.
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Postby Feech La Manna » Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:11 am



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Postby Paul » Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:55 am

is the NRA in cahoots with Hallmark?
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Postby G_S » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:17 am

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-children-dead-orlando-hostage-standoff-20180612-story.html

this guy was on probation for arson after he burned down a girlfriend's house in 2008. he violated his probation multiple times after that, including a domestic violence call in 2012 when he held a knife to a woman's neck. yet he was still able to obtain a gun so that yesterday he could shoot a cop in the head and later kill four children-- ages 1, 6, 10 and 11-- after a 24 hour standoff.

this state (and country) is utter trash

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Postby G_S » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:17 am

also today is the 2 year anniversary of Pulse
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Postby delgriffith » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:23 am

It's not a novel observation... more of a howl into the abyss I guess... but the fact that people with a history of domestic violence can so often legally buy guns in this country is a disgrace.
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Postby G_S » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:30 am

I haven't seen confirmation of how this guy actually obtained the gun yet but I think the point is overdetermined at this late date
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Postby RIXX » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:25 am

G_S wrote:also today is the 2 year anniversary of Pulse


crazy

pulse thoroughly altered the course of my life (in ultimately a good way)
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Postby goofjan » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:33 am

I'm your totally average, privileged, straight white cis male. Two years ago I happened to be in San Francisco for work, and staying in the Mission District. I woke up to news of the Pulse shooting. I spent the morning walking around the neighborhood. It was quiet, not a lot of people around. I had never been to San Francisco before. I just walked around and reflected.

That night, or maybe it was the next night, I met up with an old friend from college and we went to a candlelight vigil. It was overwhelming to see so many people packed into these couple of blocks. I actually couldn't stay long because I have a hard time with crowds under any circumstances and it was very tightly packed.

Now, two years later, I'm lucky to be working with a business that is going to be doing some charitable stuff with this organization:

https://onepulsefoundation.org/

I've talked to them on the phone a bit and they seem to be really awesome. It's shaping up to be quite a great organization, a true community organization. Not just a memorial to the victims (though it it certainly that) but also a center for community programs and events and scholarships. Consider donating, or volunteering if you live in the area.

And oh yeah, FUCK GUNS.
plz if u get a chanse put some flowrs on algernons grave kthxbye
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Postby RIXX » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:47 am

long story short, pulse led to me confronting repressed homophobia and shame within myself and basically doing the work to extricate myself out of it. i was abruptly jolted toward a feeling of being a coward staying safe and withdrawn within my hetero-passing while more outwardly visible and open queer ppl suffered the most abuse in public, with the fifty who were slaughted at pulse being the inevitable end to this abuse. it's not like i could've done anything but i felt somewhat respponsible in my timid comfortability on the sidelines

i stopped living as a closeted out person and i discovered a real source of strength in the queer community and subsequently a real newfound pride and power in my identity. i started volunteering and working for a couple nonprofit lgbtqi organizations and went from literally one queer friend before pulse to more than i can count now

i'm sure there are hundreds of stories like this but i thought i'd volunteer mine, there aren't many monumental events in my life i can point to like pulse. at least some good can come out of senseless violence like that. i honestly wish i knew this anniversary was coming up, i would've turned this into a longer essay for them. oh well. i'm gonna see if there are any vigils i can attend in the city tonight
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Postby RIXX » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:51 am

goofjan wrote:Now, two years later, I'm lucky to be working with a business that is going to be doing some charitable stuff with this organization:

https://onepulsefoundation.org/

I've talked to them on the phone a bit and they seem to be really awesome. It's shaping up to be quite a great organization, a true community organization. Not just a memorial to the victims (though it it certainly that) but also a center for community programs and events and scholarships. Consider donating, or volunteering if you live in the area.

And oh yeah, FUCK GUNS.


this is very cool. wish i lived in orlando to help out!
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Postby delgriffith » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:54 am

RIXX wrote:long story short, pulse led to me confronting repressed homophobia and shame within myself and basically doing the work to extricate myself out of it. i was abruptly jolted toward a feeling of being a coward staying safe and withdrawn within my hetero-passing while more outwardly visible and open queer ppl suffered the most abuse in public, with the fifty who were slaughted at pulse being the inevitable end to this abuse. it's not like i could've done anything but i felt somewhat respponsible in my timid comfortability on the sidelines

i stopped living as a closeted out person and i discovered a real source of strength in the queer community and subsequently a real newfound pride and power in my identity. i started volunteering and working for a couple nonprofit lgbtqi organizations and went from literally one queer friend before pulse to more than i can count now

i'm sure there are hundreds of stories like this but i thought i'd volunteer mine, there aren't many monumental events in my life i can point to like pulse. at least some good can come out of senseless violence like that. i honestly wish i knew this anniversary was coming up, i would've turned this into a longer essay for them. oh well. i'm gonna see if there are any vigils i can attend in the city tonight

Thanks for sharing this, RIXX. And goofjan thanks for the link, the foundation looks great.
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Postby G_S » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:02 am

as an Orlando resident, albeit a straight white cis male, I have observed some skepticism about OnePulse. it's the one led by the club owner, and I'm happy to hear that they plan to increase community involvement beyond their initial focus of building the memorial. I know there's also a group of survivors suing the owner, but I'm not familiar with the merits or details.

another great candidate for anyone's support and donations is The Center (http://www.thecenterorlando.org/). they have been on the ground supporting the LGBTQ community here for 40+ years, providing health care and social services on the ground every day. I'll never forget that morning at 9AM, barely functioning, driving by The Center and seeing it was filled with ~30 people who were already organizing support.

I have probably posted this before, but I have come to idealize the night of the Pulse shooting. it was a beautiful summer night and there was a free concert downtown where they close Orange Ave right in front of city hall and our performing arts center. Pulse is on the same road a mile south. we saw Teddy Riley and Blackstreet perform to people of all kinds, everyone jamming to some old school new jack swing. 2 days later thousands filled that area to share their grief. that was the last time I loved this place (state/country).
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Postby G_S » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:03 am

awesome story, rixx
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Postby goofjan » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:09 am

G_S wrote:another great candidate for anyone's support and donations is The Center (http://www.thecenterorlando.org/). they have been on the ground supporting the LGBTQ community here for 40+ years, providing health care and social services on the ground every day. I'll never forget that morning at 9AM, barely functioning, driving by The Center and seeing it was filled with ~30 people who were already organizing support.

thanks, this is valuable info. I don't live in the area so it's hard to parse this stuff from a distance. I've heard good things about One Pulse from other residents but it's also very good to know about established places like The Center. thank you!

and yeah, great story RIXX. thank you for sharing.
plz if u get a chanse put some flowrs on algernons grave kthxbye
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Postby G_S » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:14 am

one more

the Zebra Coalition (https://www.zebrayouth.org/) is a local organization that focuses on LGBTQ youth, with direct interventions addressing homelessness and addiction and anything else. they are literally across the street from The Center. donations here would go straight to local kids fighting for their lives.
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Postby jingleheimer » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:32 pm

delgriffith wrote:It's not a novel observation... more of a howl into the abyss I guess... but the fact that people with a history of domestic violence can so often legally buy guns in this country is a disgrace.


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Postby worrywort » Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:29 pm

Dems (or whoever) should rebrand it as "gun safety" rather than "gun control" -- all the same principles, just emphasize safety over control in the rhetoric. another "howl into the abyss" is to mention how incompetent they are at messaging though.
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Postby Feech La Manna » Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:39 pm

I don't think that would matter at this point
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Postby worrywort » Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:04 pm

it's one small thing, but i think the language of taking care of people and emphasizing health is more appealing and effective than the language of prohibition and control (especially because the pro-gun culture narrative is so able to successfully attack the latter). and since the principles of "gun control" mostly align with safety and common sense anyway, it's one important way to effect the necessary cultural shift.
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Postby Feech La Manna » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:40 pm



she's not even holding the thing right
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Postby worrywort » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:54 pm

:lol:


here's some decent news
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