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Postby landspeedrecord » Sun May 06, 2012 2:59 pm

Those '98s are seriously perfect right now... just about my favorite beer!

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Postby sky cracks open » Sun May 06, 2012 5:58 pm

Yeah, I have an old Lees Harvest about once a year. They've all been delicious so far. I'm glad I bought so many when I had the chance.
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Postby REAL BASED SLOB » Sun May 06, 2012 6:48 pm

bought a six pack of founders red's rye pa, it rules
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Postby internethandle » Sun May 06, 2012 11:05 pm

landspeedrecord wrote:I age my beers in plastic footlockers I keep in my parents' basement (it ranges from 55 to 65 degrees). Based on my own experiences with it since I started cellaring shit in 2007, I've had the best luck with Lagunitas Olde GnarlyWine, J.W. Lees, Fuller's Vintage, Stone RIS, pretty much all gueuzes, Chimay Blue, Orval, & Struise stouts/BSDAs. However, it has less to do with the style and more to do with what is rough around the edges in a beer. It's almost always good to age something that is super boozy (Stone Russian Imperial Stout is brutal fresh, but perfect with a year or two on it). If it's too sweet, time will probably only make it sweeter and lessen the carbonation to boot, but if it's complex enough a lil time can be good (Celebrator Doppelbock is great with time on it). Hoppy beers usually hit a dead zone when the hop flavor gets stale and starts to drop out. 3-4 year old Bigfoot can taste weird on account of this phenomenon. I had a taste of that 18 (?) year old keg they brought to Extreme Beer Fest 3 years ago, and it was just insane. But with kegs I guess you don't have to worry about the sped-up oxidation process bottles go through. Coffee forward beers don't age well, because it drops out real quick. Unless you don't like coffee notes (why are you buying those beers then?). Founders Imperial Stout ages far better than their Breakfast Stout on account of the alcohol/coffee factors, imo.

Brett and shit can be great most of the time, but I had a 3-year-old bottle of Ommegeddon that tasted like rotten lemons, and not in a good way. I've extensively cellared Ithaca Brute, and find it's better fresh, it loses its immaculate, spritzy mouthfeel as it ages, gets a tad syrupy 2/3 years in. Still great aged though it never really gets more sour. But too often I've had wild ales or lambics which while still tasty 2 or 3 years down the line, were missing my favorite aspect: the fruit (e.g. Cascade Apricot, 3F Schaerbeekse Kriek, Ithaca LeBleu, RR Consecration). Maybe they're just in the middle of a "dead zone" and will be better in a few years, who knows? I found these dusty 10-year-old bottles of Cantillon + 3F Gueuze at a local beer distributor a few years back, and they were incredible. Who's to say that a Cantillon Kriek won't be just as good under similar circumstances, but I dunno if I have the willpower to lay stuff down for that long when it's so expensive and the odds are so bad.

My 2 cents.


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again i don't have nearly as much experience cellaring as someone like you, but i've tried a fair number of cellared bottles and kegs and stone RIS is undoubtedly one the most available beers that benefits immensely from age. when i first started going to my local beer bar three years ago or so they put on kegs of 2005 through 2008 stone RIS (this was in 2009) and it was insane how much better the older vintages were. as an RIS it's pretty meh in comparison to the abyss or something when fresh, but i think even the abyss doesn't get as much of a boost from cellaring as stone's.
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Postby pissydan » Mon May 07, 2012 4:38 pm

http://lautering.com/2012/05/07/read-an ... tennessee/

Having a calm Monday? You won’t be after you read about how a Budweiser distributor in Tennessee is bullying a small-time brewer.

The war for tap space has been going for a long time, but Calfkiller Breweing Company is being attacked on a whole new level. From the brewery:

Grab your Kool aid kids and take a seat. Here’s the story of Calfkiller Brewing Company, and Budweiser of TN.
Once upon a time there was this little guy (Calfkiller Brewing Company). A very honest hard working little guy with a dream to make great beer that folks could enjoy. After many years of hard work this dream became reality. Slowly but surely the little guy was rubbing shoulders with the big guys in the market place. All was well…….or so they thought.

So what happened that was so outrageous? Well:

Over the years the little guy has purchased used kegs from all across the country. A few examples would be unclaimed freight auctions, breweries that have closed, or keg companies that sell new, used, and refurbished kegs. Anyone can purchase these, and Calfkiller has done it as well. Everything from website sales to store fronts in public with huge signs by the road for everyone to see. LEGIT businesses! So Calfkiller has been using kegs like these from day one.
Smooth sailing and all has seemed well…..until about a month ago! That’s when the “Budweiser keg police” began trying to strong arm the little guy. Now no one is sure really why. Maybe they simply want the entire market. Maybe they simply don’t like the little guys. Maybe they got their first quarter reports for 2012, and noticed the little guy had taken a piece of their pie. The only thing the little guy knows for sure is the truth isn’t in them so it does no good to ask questions at Budweiser in TN.
So the big monopoly Budweiser has started walking in to accounts, and simply taking the little guys kegs! FLIRTING WITH SLANDER they have told business owners that Calfkiller had stole the kegs.

There’s not much Calfkiller can do, and even less that we can do. But we can share it, spread the word, and turn this into a PR disaster for Budweiser. A major multi-national corporation is bullying a locally-owned small business because they make better beer.
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Postby wyatt » Mon May 07, 2012 6:34 pm

are they regular plain kegs or budweiser kegs? I know lots of smaller brewers around here use those black and red plastic looking kegs. I have a keg in my closet that has AB branded all over it. I am assuming if miller filled it with beer they would be mad.
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Postby Birds vs Worms » Mon May 07, 2012 6:44 pm

thanks darger, got this in the mail today

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Postby REAL BASED SLOB » Mon May 07, 2012 6:46 pm

lost coast indica ipa is great
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Postby death is my amigo » Mon May 07, 2012 6:47 pm

REAL BASED SLOB wrote:bought a six pack of founders red's rye pa, it rules


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Postby wyatt » Mon May 07, 2012 7:52 pm

i am taking a study break, drinking coffee and reading the beer thread and started thinking. i love coffee stouts and i was under the impression that they brewed with coffee beans to get the coffee flavors. i watched a video goose island made about bourbon country coffee, an amazing beer, and i am pretty sure they said that they just made regular or a slight variation of bourbon country and added coffee to the beer and bottled it.

my favorite kind of coffee is a cold extracted coffee concentrate called cool brew. it is made in new orleans and sold in bottles that allow you to measure out one shot at a time. basically you just pour a shot or two into a cup add milk or water and drink it. its great. it would also be perfect to add to beer because it is a concentrate and is cold. i was wondering if anyone else has every tried this before? i am planning on getting some stone IRS soon and i am planning to try it out.
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Postby evil olive » Mon May 07, 2012 8:03 pm

when i made a breakfast/ coffee stout at home that is how i got the coffee flavour in there. Cold brewed coffee and added it to the keg after fermentation was finished. It was delicious.

I was under the imprression, like you, that most pro brewers used beans in the boil.

Anyway I don't see why you couldn't just add coffee extract or cold brewed to your beer but it does take some time for the cold brewed to mix in and integrate with the stout. Its a balance though because that coffee flavour does fade.
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Postby Kuboaa » Mon May 07, 2012 8:06 pm

finally found some Palate Wrecker and it's awesome as advertised
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Postby jumpcut » Wed May 09, 2012 1:55 pm

Augen wrote:This will be even more amazing if they add more breweries. How long does it usually take to arrive?


Just got my delivery from Let's Pour. Ordered on 4.27, it shipped on 5.2 [UPS Ground]. All the beer is fresh and well-packed.

Label on box says "Do not deliver to an intoxicated person"

Will definitely order from them again
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Postby sevenarts » Wed May 09, 2012 1:57 pm

jumpcut wrote:Just got my delivery. Ordered on 4.27, it shipped on 5.2 [UPS Ground]. All the beer is fresh and well-packed.

Label on box says "Do not deliver to an intoxicated person"


Got mine today too, also laughed at that line, especially since I got it delivered to my job. I'll definitely order from them again.
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Postby bongo » Wed May 09, 2012 1:57 pm

nice

mines out for delivery today too, gonna drink some mongo ipa tonight
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Postby VHGisdead » Wed May 09, 2012 1:58 pm

Kuboaa wrote:
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VHGisdead wrote:I'm gonna be in Chicago tonight through Sat morning. Am I going to have any luck finding Zombie Dust?


looks like it but i would definitely call ahead:

http://www.beermenus.com/beers/three-floyds-zombie-dust?order=recent

my local store just ran out, but had it stocked for quite awhile, so if you call ahead to a couple Binny's or maybe an Armanetti I'm sure you can find some


not only did I drink some at Hopleaf, but we stopped at Three Floyds on the drive in and I bought a case for $35 (!!!)

It is so fucking good
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Postby Classic Dog Avatar » Wed May 09, 2012 2:01 pm

was at the grocery store and had limited options but I must say that Blue Moon's Pale Belgian Ale is absolute garbage.
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Postby wyatt » Wed May 09, 2012 2:03 pm

Erik Bonin' wrote:was at the grocery store and had limited options but I must say that Blue Moon's Pale Belgian Ale is absolute garbage.


yeah. one of my room mates loves blue moon and most of the blue moon seasonals and even he hated this one.
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Postby the scofflaw » Wed May 09, 2012 2:04 pm

pissydan wrote:http://lautering.com/2012/05/07/read-an ... tennessee/

Having a calm Monday? You won’t be after you read about how a Budweiser distributor in Tennessee is bullying a small-time brewer.

The war for tap space has been going for a long time, but Calfkiller Breweing Company is being attacked on a whole new level. From the brewery:

Grab your Kool aid kids and take a seat. Here’s the story of Calfkiller Brewing Company, and Budweiser of TN.
Once upon a time there was this little guy (Calfkiller Brewing Company). A very honest hard working little guy with a dream to make great beer that folks could enjoy. After many years of hard work this dream became reality. Slowly but surely the little guy was rubbing shoulders with the big guys in the market place. All was well…….or so they thought.

So what happened that was so outrageous? Well:

Over the years the little guy has purchased used kegs from all across the country. A few examples would be unclaimed freight auctions, breweries that have closed, or keg companies that sell new, used, and refurbished kegs. Anyone can purchase these, and Calfkiller has done it as well. Everything from website sales to store fronts in public with huge signs by the road for everyone to see. LEGIT businesses! So Calfkiller has been using kegs like these from day one.
Smooth sailing and all has seemed well…..until about a month ago! That’s when the “Budweiser keg police” began trying to strong arm the little guy. Now no one is sure really why. Maybe they simply want the entire market. Maybe they simply don’t like the little guys. Maybe they got their first quarter reports for 2012, and noticed the little guy had taken a piece of their pie. The only thing the little guy knows for sure is the truth isn’t in them so it does no good to ask questions at Budweiser in TN.
So the big monopoly Budweiser has started walking in to accounts, and simply taking the little guys kegs! FLIRTING WITH SLANDER they have told business owners that Calfkiller had stole the kegs.

There’s not much Calfkiller can do, and even less that we can do. But we can share it, spread the word, and turn this into a PR disaster for Budweiser. A major multi-national corporation is bullying a locally-owned small business because they make better beer.



this sucks. calfkiller makes some really awesome brews. i can't imagine they're even having an effect on a company like budweiser, though.
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Postby Classic Dog Avatar » Wed May 09, 2012 2:05 pm

had lunch with some people that liked leinenkugel's summer shandy :~
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Postby wyatt » Wed May 09, 2012 2:11 pm

jumpcut wrote:
Augen wrote:This will be even more amazing if they add more breweries. How long does it usually take to arrive?


Just got my delivery from Let's Pour. Ordered on 4.27, it shipped on 5.2 [UPS Ground]. All the beer is fresh and well-packed.

Label on box says "Do not deliver to an intoxicated person"

Will definitely order from them again


How were they packed? I ordered 12 and they used a 12 bottle wine shipper. Did they use a wine shipper for you or bubble wrap?
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Postby darger » Wed May 09, 2012 2:21 pm

Erik Bonin' wrote:had lunch with some people that liked leinenkugel's summer shandy :~


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Postby Viola Swamp » Wed May 09, 2012 2:22 pm

some people just need their beer to have that shit towne taste
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Postby jumpcut » Wed May 09, 2012 2:49 pm

wyatt wrote:
jumpcut wrote:
Augen wrote:This will be even more amazing if they add more breweries. How long does it usually take to arrive?


Just got my delivery from Let's Pour. Ordered on 4.27, it shipped on 5.2 [UPS Ground]. All the beer is fresh and well-packed.

Label on box says "Do not deliver to an intoxicated person"

Will definitely order from them again


How were they packed? I ordered 12 and they used a 12 bottle wine shipper. Did they use a wine shipper for you or bubble wrap?


Wine shipper for my box of six

They must get an incredible discount on shipping, Most other places charge $25-$35 for similar weight/distance
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Postby Primary » Wed May 09, 2012 3:29 pm

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REAL BASED SLOB wrote:bought a six pack of founders red's rye pa, it rules


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Postby wyatt » Wed May 09, 2012 5:15 pm

jumpcut wrote:They must get an incredible discount on shipping, Most other places charge $25-$35 for similar weight/distance


Their prices are a little high to help cushion the shipping cost, but I am sure they must get some shipping discount. They might also get a discount on the beer by buying in such large quantities. Who knows though. I am very happy with their service.

Planning on ordering again when I get anything more than $5 off on the "spin the wheel" game.
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Postby Classic Dog Avatar » Wed May 09, 2012 5:24 pm

bankhead wrote:some people just need their beer to have that shit towne taste


to clarify - and to suspension bridge's point - these were people from boston
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Postby Viola Swamp » Wed May 09, 2012 5:28 pm

exactly
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Postby bongo » Wed May 09, 2012 5:39 pm

really into this port mongo ipa

once again to echo others letspour is solid
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Postby captain » Wed May 09, 2012 5:43 pm

i'm obsessed with deschutes green lakes amber ale
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