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Postby kid pretentious » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:10 am

ran with a running group i recently met for the first time earlier tonight. it was good! i feel like it'll be a good break in routine to run in different places each tuesday instead of my monotonous route.
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Postby Quixotic » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:03 pm

i haven't worn anything but normal shoes in the winter too. i know some folks stick stubby screws in old shews to deal with the ice but its not too bad here.
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Postby grayfox » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:21 pm

kid pretentious wrote:ran with a running group i recently met for the first time earlier tonight. it was good! i feel like it'll be a good break in routine to run in different places each tuesday instead of my monotonous route.

recommend to every person in this thread to join a club/team
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Postby conductor » Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:33 am

I have been 1) struggling to fit in runs during the week and 2) dealing with insomnia that keeps me up for a minimum of an hour (and often for good) starting at 3.

Is it completely insane for me to go running at 3 and then go back to bed?

I'll hang up and listen
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Postby conductor » Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:34 am

Follow-up: if it's not completely insane, just how insane would you say it is?
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Postby dvr » Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:36 am

i think it is 98% sane
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Postby conductor » Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:37 am

I'm sorry but I think you mean 2% insane, but thank you.
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Postby grayfox » Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:49 am

Run. I know people that run at 4am
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Postby Jefferson Zeppelin » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:20 am

conductor wrote:I have been 1) struggling to fit in runs during the week and 2) dealing with insomnia that keeps me up for a minimum of an hour (and often for good) starting at 3.

Is it completely insane for me to go running at 3 and then go back to bed?

I'll hang up and listen


I think the exercise will make it hard to get back to sleep. If so it's a bad idea.

Alternate strategy: force yourself to get straight out of bed and go for a run first thing every morning, early if possible. Repeat every day for 2-3 weeks and I bet you'll feel pretty good and have a much easier time sleeping.

Best cure I've found for 3am insomnia is to read a book (not a kindle or phone), it takes my mind off whatever I was thinking about and then I can get back to sleep again. YMMV
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Postby based dana scully » Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:02 pm

If you want a really winter specific running shoe, i have the inov-8 arctic claw and i don't use it much but it's good in the more extreme conditions. the running store here is demo-ing some merrel shoes with new vibram rubber that is supposed to grip on ice. i didn't try it out though. i don't like yak trax either and mainly wear trail shoes in winter.
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Postby object » Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:53 pm

night runs are fantastic if your area has the lighting for it
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Postby dvr » Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:02 pm

based dana scully wrote:If you want a really winter specific running shoe, i have the inov-8 arctic claw and i don't use it much but it's good in the more extreme conditions. the running store here is demo-ing some merrel shoes with new vibram rubber that is supposed to grip on ice. i didn't try it out though. i don't like yak trax either and mainly wear trail shoes in winter.


Cool thanks, I'll look into that inov when my $50 asiacs wear out. Although I'm a big fan of Merrell, gone through 5+ pairs and 1000s of miles hiking in the Moab ventilators. Ran yesterday while it was snowing, first for me
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Postby object » Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:46 pm

question: i've started running a route now and again that's about half marathon length. is it very bad practice to not hydrate during the run? is it enough to hydrate before and after?
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Postby goldsoundz » Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:59 pm

as long as you feel fine during and after, i don't see a problem with it
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Postby object » Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:39 pm

i felt awful after the last time - headache etc - but i don't think i had been hydrating properly in the days before
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Postby Quixotic » Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:03 pm

object wrote:question: i've started running a route now and again that's about half marathon length. is it very bad practice to not hydrate during the run? is it enough to hydrate before and after?


i think drinking when you're thirsty is the accepted wisdom. if you're not hydrated before a run, my thought would be to bring water. it can't hurt
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Postby son of chucky » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:27 am

i did 12.5 miles yesterday without drinking during, but i made a real effort to stay hydrated leading up to it. i would prefer to have water with me but i think it's fine if you drink enough beforehand.
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Postby object » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:31 am

i just hate the hassle of carrying things. maybe it's dumb idk
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Postby Kuboaa » Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:06 pm

object wrote:i just hate the hassle of carrying things. maybe it's dumb idk

if it's a out and back...
carry a disposable bottle half way, stash it somewhere after hydrating with it, when you come back around pic it back up
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Postby Quixotic » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:30 pm

object wrote:i just hate the hassle of carrying things. maybe it's dumb idk


i hate carrying stuff in my hands (other than my trusty flashlight), so for longer runs i'll bring a pack or take a route that'll take me past water fountains
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Postby kid pretentious » Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:03 pm

i never take water during half marathons or less, partially cause i cramp easily. considering experimenting with saltstick electrolyte capsules before runs though.
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Postby grayfox » Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:49 am

Ran an 8k this morning in 28:34. Felt good going into it. Kinda slow the 2nd and 3rd mile. But ran the last mile, which is pretty downhill, in 5:11. Which is insane.
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Postby conductor » Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:55 am

Just headed out for a 12 degree run. Nice, nice
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Postby Kuboaa » Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:48 am

kid pretentious wrote:i never take water during half marathons or less, partially cause i cramp easily. considering experimenting with saltstick electrolyte capsules before runs though.

you should try maurten during your run
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Postby Quixotic » Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:52 am

grayfox wrote:Ran an 8k this morning in 28:34. Felt good going into it. Kinda slow the 2nd and 3rd mile. But ran the last mile, which is pretty downhill, in 5:11. Which is insane.


damn. you got your speed back really fast. seriously impressive race + last mile.
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Postby grayfox » Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:10 am

thanks dude. yeah the speed came back quickly, my workouts have been solid. strength is what i'm lacking right now, so this was a good mixture of speed/strength, but i could still definitely feel the struggle of hanging on to paces longer. it's coming together.
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Postby based dana scully » Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:51 pm

killer fast time, grayfox. that's a PR right?
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Postby based dana scully » Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:52 pm

runner's world has a tool for deciding what to wear in different weather - it is pretty customizable. i haven't used it yet, but interesting idea. https://www.runnersworld.com/training/a20803133/what-to-wear/

and i probably already posted this but i stumbled back on alex hutchinson's article from this past winter on running when it's really cold https://www.outsideonline.com/2272356/how-survive-most-frigid-winter-runs

it's actually above freezing here! but that means everything's gonna melt and it'll get really icy. oh well!
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Postby grayfox » Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:05 pm

it is, i think? i may have split faster in a 10k 2 years ago but i dunno, in terms of a strict 8k PR, yes it is.

i do better in cold weather than most. i wore shorts today and light gloves. 2 friends of mine were in tights, hat, thick gloves and were complaining about the cold. i just kinda do trial and error to figur eout what works for me, but the most extreme for me is like low teens here (F) so not a huge deal.
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Postby conductor » Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:30 pm

Yeah I'm a heat factory. I wear shorts down to 20 degrees and even on subzero runs (Minnesota) I find myself cycling my hat/mittens on and off.
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