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Postby broodstar » Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:27 am

i think doppel evolve has to be one of the highest highrolls right now. i think there are a handful of plays that swing matches in like +/- 30% favour (ui, drawing patches, keleseth on 2, raza on 5), but doppel evolve definitely has to be one of them
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Postby cooly » Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:29 am

also i think u've forgotten about the best deck in hearthstone: wild play dead hunter that only runs sneeds and nzoth

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Postby broodstar » Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:46 am

my serious analysis of the card is that if u put in only one deathrattle (i.e. sneeds), ur gonna draw it like 1/3rd of the time and then the card will have no effect.

if ur just trying to run 'good' deathrattles, well, kathrena would be a good target, but hunter already dies to anything that plays 1 drops, and the next best target (highmane) is mostly considered too slow, so playing 5/4 highmane instead of a 6/5 highmane is not very impressive. even if you isolated it down to just highmane+rat pack, playing 3rd/4th highmane is probably not something i'd do right now.

im also not convinced that carnivorous cube is ever good because faceless manipulator is never good, but i think it'd be easier to simply drop highmanes and then cube it instead of all this nonsense
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Postby cyantific » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:05 pm

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I think they changed the card from a 6m 5/4 to a 5m 4/3 overnight. I guess it makes it slightly better since it can now be played before Highmane but a 5m 4/3 is still bad vs any aggro deck. I guess getting the Rat Pack deathrattle isn't so bad since you'd get 5 rats out of it but I don't think you'd run that card in a Kathreena Big Hunter deck.

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This seems like a card that would only work in Paladin in order to pull Tirion or Rag, Lightlord. You'd only run one of this card and you'll probably want to play Lich King as well. 7m 3/3 that doesn't pull anything from your deck loses the game and even then the card seems real slow.
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Postby broodstar » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:30 pm

it's confirmed to be 6 mana

https://twitter.com/PlayHearthstone/sta ... 8330170368

i guess the 5 mana was a previous version of the card? it'd sure be more interesting at 5 and maybe actually playable/worth considering, but i guess the fact that you can pull nutty deathrattles like dw dragonlord means u don't want it to be low costed
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Postby broodstar » Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:40 pm

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dunno how playable this is, though it seems in the upper end on first glance, but good card + good design. wish blizzard printed more of that instead of stupid hunter 10 drops
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Postby cyantific » Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:55 am

Time to break out my old Elemental Shaman decks and get 1m Blaze Callers and Fire Elementals. Pretty good that you can also get this off of Servant of Kalimos. Evolve Shaman is still better but I guess this is in preparation for the set rotation next year.

also your image is huge lol
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Postby broodstar » Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:59 am

it was the only non-chinese image at the time. ill edit it
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Postby cooly » Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:16 am

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this looks like a velen otk card for a world after priest can velen otk you in one turn (i.e. after raza rotates), but it also works as a hail mary for inner fire decks.

i guess it makes you favored / instawin vs dead mans hand if they dont mill or rat velen. that might work vs exodia mage too, or any slower deck that runs ice block. seems unplayable vs most aggressive decks; you straight up can't play it even after stabilizing vs like token druid because of savage roar, shaman bc of bloodlust, any deck that runs leeroy. i'm gonna guess "never played, even after raza rotates", but maybe theres a world where you have 30hp and use this as a mega emperor for a combo like malygos velen mind blast or some combination of velen mind blash enter the shadows/auchenai flash heal. but it doesnt even work well against most slower decks now, like it's suicide vs big druid or jade druid.
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Postby cyantific » Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:13 pm

I think its going to be a fun meme card for streamers to play. Priest has gotten two meme legendaries now: Archbishop Benedictus and now Temporus.
Velen / Malygos was what came to mind right away when seeing this card. I doubt we'll be able to get all the combo pieces on turn 8 so this will have to happen much later in the game. You'd have to already have the board, maybe some taunts, good on health, have all your combo pieces and hope you don't die in two turns. I guess you can also potentially have the craziest Lyra turns with two turns in a row.
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Postby broodstar » Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:24 pm

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Postby cyantific » Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:09 pm

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simply love to meme
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Postby broodstar » Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:13 pm

i was gonna post how there's no clear line to meme with temporus but i see the line with king towaggle

fill your deck with all draw, naturalize, coldlight, draw him to 10 cards, somehow survive till 8 and temporus, overdraw the ransom, hopefully the rest of your deck is all draw or 1/1s and you're alive
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Postby broodstar » Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:15 pm

loling at half the reddit comments suggesting counterspell
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Postby cyantific » Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:25 pm

Yeah seems like it would work best with Druid. Ramp up, draw all your cards (with Nourish, Branching Paths) Naturalize them to 10 cards, play Hemet, play King Togwaggle, make em overdraw the ransom and then win the Hearthstone World Championship
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Postby broodstar » Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:27 pm

if by the 2019 rotation the next 5 sets are all meme cards then you will either have a return to vanilla hearthstone or meme decks as a standard
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Postby cyantific » Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:33 pm

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Super interesting board clear that probably can fit right into Razakus Priest
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Postby broodstar » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:34 pm

uh......... that card seems broken
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Postby cyantific » Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:08 pm



Some pretty solid Warlock cards in this expansion. Warlock Spellstone increases to Deal 5 dmg and Deal 7 dmg once those conditions are met and that seems really fucking good.
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Postby cooly » Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:15 pm

took a break after finishing a dissertation chapter to get legend today. used zoolock exclusively. i switched in 2x scalebane and it seemed to help a lot vs the priests i came across, small sample size tho. just feels good to be able to do something proactive on dragonfire turn without crossing ur fingers.

psychic scream seems insane in razakus priest. just another bullshit boardclear to worry about playing against them. not that it really matters but they're making wild priest such a joke by printing priest an insane board clear per year

i'd definitely play the warlock 1 drop in my zoo deck but idk if its worth dropping prince k to put the 2 drop in, and i don't care enough about damaging minions that the spell would make it more appealing.
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Postby internetfriend » Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:18 pm

cooly are you gonna play vanilla wow with us
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Postby cooly » Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:20 pm

i've never played wow before. i would be lying if i said i wasn't curious, but i have such an addictive personality idk if i should let myself. it would be fun to mess around with you guys tho.
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Postby cooly » Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:21 pm

lets jsut play magic arena
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Postby Feech La Manna » Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:23 pm

Sometimes I flirt with messing with a Vanilla or BC private server but I probably have enough massive time sinks in my life

How is that one w/r/t glitches? I’m curious to see how the official Blizzard version goes.
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Postby Riverchrist » Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:34 pm

Congrats on legend again. One day I swear 2 achieve this.
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Postby manvstrees » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:59 pm

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Postby cooly » Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:41 am

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hm, this is pretty good for dead man's hand. if u can make a deck of coldlight coldlight this and bring it on you cant lose. you might be able to just run 1 brawl so you never have to worry about brawls clogging your hand.
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Postby cooly » Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:42 am

also i fucking hate this card

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looking forward to having absolutely no idea how much damage my mage opponent can deal in 1 turn
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Postby cooly » Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:59 am

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is this card good? i feel like it has to be, but i don't think it fits in tempo, and miracle is so weak right now. maybe you can make miracle work with this + the legendary and 1 or 2 of the secrets.
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Postby cyantific » Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:27 am

check out how bad this card is guys
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I feel that Leyline Manipulator strengthens Quest Mage and will probably be tried out in Elemental Death Knight Mage. 2 mana less for Pyros or minions discovered from Servant of Kalimos seems strong.

Elven Minstrel seems good in Miracle Rogue to help you get to Auctioneer or Arcane Giants. Probably in a meme Malygos Rogue deck too.
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