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Postby wendy » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:40 pm

idk who the communist wizards are

i think most wizards on TG are social democrats
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Postby big zorb » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:42 pm

grindelwald was a fascist, no? or perhaps more technically a pureblood supremacist
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Postby wendy » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:42 pm

i think both if he'd had the opportunity
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Postby iambic » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:43 pm

wendy wrote:in the first book harry straight up is like "we gotta deal with voldemort even though we're 11" and in the seventh book he's like "hey aberforth can you do me a small favor, please don't ask me why"

yes, he learns his place in society and to respect the system. that is what British school is for.
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Postby big zorb » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:43 pm

do you think luna's dad was a weird libertarian
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Postby wendy » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:46 pm

OR he learns that, unlike at the dursleys', he doesn't have to do everything on his own to survive

no tbh i don't think harry learns anything. i think he's a huge idiot and i hate him
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Postby wendy » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:46 pm

larry the cable guy tooth fairy 28 wrote:do you think luna's dad was a weird libertarian

well now i do
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Postby big zorb » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:48 pm

wendy wrote:OR he learns that, unlike at the dursleys', he doesn't have to do everything on his own to survive

no tbh i don't think harry learns anything. i think he's a huge idiot and i hate him


if he is so stupid why is one of his best friends the best wizard of her time
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Postby wendy » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:49 pm

because in their first year they fought a troll together and won

that's literally the answer
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Postby wendy » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:50 pm

But from that moment on, Hermione Granger became their friend. There are some things you can't share without ending up liking each other, and knocking out a twelve-foot mountain troll is one of them.
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Postby big zorb » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:50 pm

i've experienced many trolls with others and never found it sufficient reason to become lifelong best friends
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Postby wendy » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:51 pm

it's harry's fault lupin is dead.Toggle Spoiler

i will never forgive him for that
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Postby wendy » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:51 pm

also sirius but let's be real siriusToggle Spoiler was an asshole
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Postby lordofdiapers » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:53 pm

Ok lets be real though the Weasley family thing makes nonsense. They're like pure, old blood but also somehow dirt poor but they live in a big house and the adults are old school freedom fighters and their giant brood is comprised entirely of succesful and relatively famous wizards. Money and the general economy of the HP uni is really all over the place
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Postby big zorb » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:53 pm

sirius was cool
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Postby iambic » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:53 pm

if the wizards were just or good at all, they've spend all their time researching how to grant magic to all Muggles, or at least improving Muggle lives, but instead they hide like cowards
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Postby wendy » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:56 pm

lordofdiapers wrote:Ok lets be real though the Weasley family thing makes nonsense. They're like pure, old blood but also somehow dirt poor but they live in a big house and the adults are old school freedom fighters and their giant brood is comprised entirely of succesful and relatively famous wizards. Money and the general economy of the HP uni is really all over the place

hard agree about money & the economy, it makes no sense

mr. & mrs. weasley weren't in the original order of the phoenix. molly's brothers were though. and that's not to say she didn't fight against voldemort but i got the sense that she and arthur were not really involved the first time around. they had bill, charlie, and percy by then
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Postby kirito » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:57 pm

does ron have a character arc?
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Postby wendy » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:57 pm

i don't think the wizards owe us anything after we forced them into hiding
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Postby big zorb » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:58 pm

wendy why was sirius an asshole?
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Postby iambic » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:58 pm

wendy wrote:i don't think the wizards owe us anything after we forced them into hiding

we never hear the other side of the story from these snobs.
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Postby iambic » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:59 pm

wendy wrote:
lordofdiapers wrote:Ok lets be real though the Weasley family thing makes nonsense. They're like pure, old blood but also somehow dirt poor but they live in a big house and the adults are old school freedom fighters and their giant brood is comprised entirely of succesful and relatively famous wizards. Money and the general economy of the HP uni is really all over the place

hard agree about money & the economy, it makes no sense

it makes perfect sense when you remember that money and the economy are problems for the proles (Muggles).
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Postby the soccer return believer » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:59 pm

is it really a return to bloodline magic when a bunch of the main characters are mudblood and halfblood and even the purebloods are hooking up with others who aren't
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Postby the soccer return believer » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:00 pm

the wizards should've lorded it over the muggles like stalin instead of fighting among themselves imo
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Postby iambic » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:02 pm

Tom Cruise wrote:is it really a return to bloodline magic when a bunch of the main characters are mudblood and halfblood and even the purebloods are hooking up with others who aren't

they were doing that before; people were just mad about it. at the end of the books, magic is still in your blood or it isn't. everyone is operating in the same framework and with the same self-interested secrecy. you still get exclusive access to the wizard world based on genetics, more or less, while the people who would benefit most from magic are lied to about its very existence. it's a dystopian vision of haves and have-nots cloaked in cutesy British gentility.
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Postby wendy » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:02 pm

kirito wrote:does ron have a character arc?

yes although most of it takes place off-page/screen

between books 6 and 7 he grows up a lot and starts to take ownership of his emotions, self-doubt, feelings, and responsibilities. he falters in book 7 but then returns with a vengeance and becomes a actual contributing member of the trio whereas he was just a soldier before
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Postby wendy » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:03 pm

larry the cable guy tooth fairy 28 wrote:wendy why was sirius an asshole?

well at least until he was 16 years old he was a smug prick who had no qualms about sexually assaulting and bullying another student in public

as an adult he was whiny, insolent, selfish, and passive aggressive
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Postby iambic » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:04 pm

the books would have been way more interesting if magic was slowly growing throughout society and more or more Muggles were becoming wizards and the wizarding world was having to reckon with this new, radically egalitarian vision of magic. but no, it's just a prolonged spat about how rude you're allowed to be to someone who lacks your breeding. no wonder the kids didn't turn out to reject Brexit.
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Postby iambic » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:08 pm

so Lily Evans gets to be a wizard and access supernatural powers that could transform life as we know it while Petunia gets to go to the local comprehensive. later, we're supposed to resent the latter for being the littlest bit bitter about this completely fucked arrangement.
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Postby the soccer return believer » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:09 pm

iambic what house did you get sorted into
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