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Postby aububs » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:03 pm

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iambic wrote:as someone who loves Pale Fire more than life itself, I still haven't figured out any reason for it to be in this movie? like, thematically?

Might be the ultimate distillation of what we mean when we say "Bro Intellectual"


"bro intellectual" means "not as smart as me", i think
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Postby shizaam » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:10 pm

so uh
bringing gaff back was questionable, and Adama vibes were even more heavy with him speaking english.

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Postby Seamus » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:40 pm

shizaam wrote:have we talked about how the scale on the missile strike in san diego seems completely off? it'd be one thing if it was just a couple dudes, but it's instead the scavenger army out for one guy, and a full-on war scene.


such a dumb scene on so many levels. Air to ground missiles are completely out of whack with this and the original movie, it gave away that Gosling was being followed which he paid zero attention to, no mention is giving to the dead scavengers when he enters the orphanage, no mention is given to his ruined vehicle and how he gets out of thereToggle Spoiler
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Postby dcm » Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:20 am

I don't know if never glorifying the original made me more or less susceptible to liking this as much as I did, but it was the best time I've had in a theater for a non-comedy in quite awhile and I guess I'm surprised to be typing that.

I vibe with most of the criticisms being leveled against the plot itt but I took the incoherent causal chain as something of a depiction of or commentary on the seemingly eternal impossibility of constructing coherent personal narratives, because the interplay between memory and emotion, action and gesture can continually blur and redraw the line of who we conceive ourselves to be from one present moment to the next. also think I have less of an issue waving a lot of the plot stuff away when I thought the plotting was a weaker element of the original (which I've only seen once fwiw).
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Postby dcm » Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:23 am

sex scene was dope, luv as T-1000 sick, deckard bodysurfing toward the flying car sure
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Postby palms » Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:53 am

This was ok. Everyone I've spoken to whether they liked the movie or not has mentioned how badass the soundtrack was so that's going to be my takeaway. That and the sex scene
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Postby chimp » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:33 am

aububs wrote:
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iambic wrote:as someone who loves Pale Fire more than life itself, I still haven't figured out any reason for it to be in this movie? like, thematically?

Might be the ultimate distillation of what we mean when we say "Bro Intellectual"


"bro intellectual" means "not as smart as me", i think


Yeah I don't think this is a good or useful concept really
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Postby delgriffith » Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:16 am

I agree normally, but that's why I think the term is appropriate here.
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Postby r m » Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:14 am

I loved this, but it's weird that the one shot that sticks with me more than anything else is Robin Wright's head bouncing off the desk.
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Postby r m » Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:18 am

I'm reading Future Noir right now, and I'm kind of amazed how much I didn't know about the early stages of optioning Blade Runner.

Like, the dad from Flipper was one of the executive producers?
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Postby kirito » Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:45 pm

palms wrote:This was ok. Everyone I've spoken to whether they liked the movie or not has mentioned how badass the soundtrack was so that's going to be my takeaway. That and the sex scene

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Postby Jake SPEED » Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:34 pm

Great movie that was fighting to carry the weight of the original. I liked Joi and gosling was fine. I loved the holographic Elvis shootout. But I would have been happier just cruising around in the spinner over the landscape, checking out San Diego, the tide wall, the solar arrays etc. and getting a better sense of the structure of society and the geography with no dialogue or plot, chilling with Zimmer.
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Postby Jake SPEED » Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:49 pm

I want to see thousands of miles of solar arrays over the deserted flatland of middle America. I want to see the supply chain for the grubs at the protein farm and how they are produced, processed, distributed and consumed. I want to know what the daily life of LA inhabitants who aren’t police officers looks like. We got a few well-designed images but no sense of the social structure writ large.

There was more world building in the two 1 minute scenes in T1– robot tank crushing skulls and dogs barking at terminator disguised in tattered clothes infiltrating the underground bunker— than in this entire movie.
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Postby Jimmy Firecracker » Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:22 pm

fuvk you losers this movie is shit and im mad it was made
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Postby kirito » Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:40 pm

that's the consensus in this thread
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Postby quinine » Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:00 am

do you long for having your heart interlinked? interlinked.

define ‘consensus’. interlinked.
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Postby tricksforchips » Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:18 am

Every day I like this movie less and less.

Not a good film. Unimportant and unnecessary.
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Postby quinine » Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:18 am

Seamus wrote:
shizaam wrote:have we talked about how the scale on the missile strike in san diego seems completely off? it'd be one thing if it was just a couple dudes, but it's instead the scavenger army out for one guy, and a full-on war scene.


such a dumb scene on so many levels. Air to ground missiles are completely out of whack with this and the original movie, it gave away that Gosling was being followed which he paid zero attention to, no mention is giving to the dead scavengers when he enters the orphanage, no mention is given to his ruined vehicle and how he gets out of thereToggle Spoiler


this made perfect sense to me. my assumption was that some sort of tactical drone defense net is ubiquitous, particularly in the incivilized wastelands. these dudes were just hanging out with a grappling hook waiting for an aircraft to shoot down, I don’t think a missile barrage is a real out-of-the-ordinary event for them. seems like an appropriate update on the sort of ubiquitous, incontestable state control you see in the original, which looked like flying cars, searchlights and massive machinery roaming the streets in the language of its time; now it’s fleshed out with bunkerbusters and k’s hovering watchdogToggle Spoiler
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Postby Grey Poupon » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:30 am

forgetting all Seamus' complaints, which being an apologist for this film I'm apt to do, without looking at it too closely I mentioned earlier in the thread I really dug that scene, because it was so brutal and butchery and a technicolor presentation of what is happening daily(?) in warzones with drones etc. but we're only used to seeing it through black and white IR cam

I dunno it struck me, the cold brutality of it, anyway

but yes I did wonder how he got home
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Postby aububs » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:50 am

it was cool that his car was a peugeot
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Postby Grey Poupon » Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:06 am

on cars,I think I felt more of a gutpunch when Deckard's spinner was exploded than when Joi got crunched

maybe because the Joi getting crunched thing had been telegraphed way early when he loaded her onto his USB stick
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Postby Brain Stew » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:32 am

I think after 50 pages people should expect spoilers.
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Postby giant_turtle » Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:33 am

I find it odd that people feel like the sex scene was worth mentioning when it was the sex scene from Her, like, verbatim.

I guess it seems "cooler" in a violent drama than it does in a depressing rom-com?
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Postby kirito » Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:58 am

john penis wrote:
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shizaam wrote:have we talked about how the scale on the missile strike in san diego seems completely off? it'd be one thing if it was just a couple dudes, but it's instead the scavenger army out for one guy, and a full-on war scene.


such a dumb scene on so many levels. Air to ground missiles are completely out of whack with this and the original movie, it gave away that Gosling was being followed which he paid zero attention to, no mention is giving to the dead scavengers when he enters the orphanage, no mention is given to his ruined vehicle and how he gets out of thereToggle Spoiler


this made perfect sense to me. my assumption was that some sort of tactical drone defense net is ubiquitous, particularly in the incivilized wastelands. these dudes were just hanging out with a grappling hook waiting for an aircraft to shoot down, I don’t think a missile barrage is a real out-of-the-ordinary event for them. seems like an appropriate update on the sort of ubiquitous, incontestable state control you see in the original, which looked like flying cars, searchlights and massive machinery roaming the streets in the language of its time; now it’s fleshed out with bunkerbusters and k’s hovering watchdogToggle Spoiler


the harpoon deploying into a giant kite to attract a bolt of lightning to ben franklin ryan's ass out of the sky was one of the best parts of this
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Postby delgriffith » Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:07 am

This should have played during the sex scene and also they should have danced
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Postby incoherent grunting » Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:31 am

i maintain that the best part of this was when the water came out of the damn

or maybe when that car flew past a monolithic cement pyramid while the soundtrack went "WRRRNNNNGGGGHHHHHNNNNGGGGGGGNNNNNNN"
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Postby dcm » Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:52 pm

giant_turtle wrote:I find it odd that people feel like the sex scene was worth mentioning when it was the sex scene from Her, like, verbatim.

I guess it seems "cooler" in a violent drama than it does in a depressing rom-com?


I think it's more interesting because K is a replicant and the scene places a much greater emphasis on the visual overlay. Also don't think there is anything odd about valuing execution over originality sometimes.
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Postby quinine » Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:00 pm

I don't remember any visually arresting sex scene which was a landmark argument for the artistic credentials of CGI in 'her'
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Postby antoine » Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:27 pm

How is a scene a sex scene if theres no sex occurring
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