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Postby cooly » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:46 am

dmitry would u rec that book for a leftist architect (my girlfriend) who knows a lot about city planning etc or do you think it would be too basic for her

it seems down her alley but its hard to gauge how much of it would be things she already knows
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Postby deadbass » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:51 am

dmitry wrote:learned so far: le courbusier is an asshole

le corbusier on the fall of France wrote:"Money, the Jews (who are partly responsible), Freemasonry, they will all get their just reward. These shameful fortresses will be dismantled. They dominated everything... We are in the hands of a winning invader, whose attitude could be crushing. If the conditions are truthful, Hitler could crown his life's work by a grand act: the cleaning up of Europe."
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Postby dmitry » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:02 pm

cooly wrote:dmitry would u rec that book for a leftist architect (my girlfriend) who knows a lot about city planning etc or do you think it would be too basic for her

it seems down her alley but its hard to gauge how much of it would be things she already knows


only one chapter is about high modernism in architecture, the rest is about similar top-down stuff states imposing national languages/standards/ways to farm
i guess urban designers understand this stuff better than anyone because they learned it the hard way but this thing is a must-read. he's a good writer, too
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Postby cooly » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:08 pm

cool, thanks! her b-day is coming up next month so this'll be a good add-on gift :)
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Postby Dead_Wizard » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:01 pm

cooly wrote:dmitry would u rec that book for a leftist architect (my girlfriend) who knows a lot about city planning etc or do you think it would be too basic for her

it seems down her alley but its hard to gauge how much of it would be things she already knows


I'd recommend The Edifice Complex by Deyan Sudjic
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Postby Messenger » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:47 pm

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so many different sources have recommended this. it ties up a lot of what i've been thinking about, re: top-down control and complex systems, but also re: modernist urban planning and societal projects
learned so far: le courbusier is an asshole


I just read something about this the other day and thought it sounded like an intriguing topic, but I'm curious, what sort of political perspective is this author coming from?
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Postby walt whitman » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:00 pm

ripersnifle wrote:been reading a bunch of Kittler for school. really enjoying it.

mark bn hansen is an intriguing counterpoint to kittler on media and the digital turn

particularly hansen's

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Postby chowder julius » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:08 pm

i finished the rosmarie waldrop and have no idea what i should read next. maybe another ferrante? but i think i need a break from heavy books. does anyone have a rec for something fun yet literary, ideally less than 200 pages?
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Postby abs » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:16 pm

The Dud Avocado by Elaine Dundy. She's a fucking riot.
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Postby chowder julius » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:28 pm

atomicbombshell wrote:The Dud Avocado by Elaine Dundy. She's a fucking riot.

this looks great. thanks abs!
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Postby scarsdalevibe » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:33 pm

Somehow I forgot that there was a new Pullman trilogy coming out. Next week?! There goes a whole week of good night sleeps
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Postby Barthes Starr » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:25 pm

ripersnifle wrote:been reading a bunch of Kittler for school. really enjoying it.


hey me too
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Postby mission » Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:42 am

atomicbombshell wrote:The Dud Avocado by Elaine Dundy. She's a fucking riot.


Seconded.

Groucho said it made him laugh, scream and guffaw. I merely laughed but also got mildly freaked out - as I often do - at more proof that sex wasn't invented in the 60s.
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Postby madness and chaos » Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:28 am

fuck yeah, love drug rock tales, gotta read that nolan

and i still need that mudd club book. i waited forever for one of those
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Postby Kenny » Fri Oct 13, 2017 4:35 am

chowder julius wrote:i finished the rosmarie waldrop and have no idea what i should read next. maybe another ferrante? but i think i need a break from heavy books. does anyone have a rec for something fun yet literary, ideally less than 200 pages?


Have you read any P.G. Wodehouse?
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Postby ripersnifle » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:53 am

walt whitman wrote:
ripersnifle wrote:been reading a bunch of Kittler for school. really enjoying it.

mark bn hansen is an intriguing counterpoint to kittler on media and the digital turn

particularly hansen's

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thanks. i haven't heard of him/this text!
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hey me too
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bums me out a bit, tbh, because i think if my undergraduate institution would've been more progressive/robust in terms of thinking more in these terms, then i would've found this out a lot earlier.
my undergraduate university essentially ignored digital humanities while it was happening contemporaneously everywhere else. professors thought if they had regularly-updated blogspots that they were cutting edge digital scholars.
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Postby mascotte » Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:58 am

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Prob the best Putin bio out there

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Starts great but I might give up when it gets serious

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Wonderful read, so many insights about history of Iran
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Postby chowder julius » Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:00 pm

Kenny wrote:
chowder julius wrote:i finished the rosmarie waldrop and have no idea what i should read next. maybe another ferrante? but i think i need a break from heavy books. does anyone have a rec for something fun yet literary, ideally less than 200 pages?


Have you read any P.G. Wodehouse?

i have not! will check him out

abs, i'm a couple chapters deep into the dud avocado and am really enjoying it. i wish i'd had this on hand to read while traveling.
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Postby Kenny » Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:02 pm

Read "Code of the Woosters" first!
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Postby criss elliott » Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:43 pm

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javier marias - thus bad begins

just finished. it was ok but overlong, it took me maybe a month and i almost gave up a few times. each time i put it down i didn't really want to pick it up again. don't know if this is on the translation or marias but by 600th occurence of "ingenuous" i was about to throw the damn book.

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shirley jackson - we have always lived in the castle

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terry eagleton - literary theory

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Postby Dead_Wizard » Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:08 pm

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Been thinking about acid a lot lately

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Saw it referenced by James Woods re: the Nobel so "Hey!" why not

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Postby mudd » Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:35 pm

i feel like i used to read a lot of 4W8W stuff but all i can remember right now is the paul difilipo stuff i don't remember fondly.

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Postby Viola Swamp » Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:43 pm

nah WHALITC is very spooky and her best
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Postby dmitry » Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:44 pm

Messenger wrote:
dmitry wrote:been goin through

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so many different sources have recommended this. it ties up a lot of what i've been thinking about, re: top-down control and complex systems, but also re: modernist urban planning and societal projects
learned so far: le courbusier is an asshole


I just read something about this the other day and thought it sounded like an intriguing topic, but I'm curious, what sort of political perspective is this author coming from?


he's an anarchism-leaning liberal. pretty much all his work is "people vs institutions" and he likes people a lot more than institutions
it ends up a good position to analyze from because he sees/describes the positive intents (or not) of the top-down projects, but is also able to see how they come apart when you consider that these projects apply to people
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Postby turquoise albino » Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:22 pm

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I really like Bowle's sense of place/mood. Definitely want to read more by him


Up Above the World can kinda snatch your soul straight out of your body
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Postby bongo » Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:29 pm

up very late/always and largely immobile with a newborn these days so figured why not

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Postby Messenger » Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:39 pm

dmitry wrote:
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so many different sources have recommended this. it ties up a lot of what i've been thinking about, re: top-down control and complex systems, but also re: modernist urban planning and societal projects
learned so far: le courbusier is an asshole


I just read something about this the other day and thought it sounded like an intriguing topic, but I'm curious, what sort of political perspective is this author coming from?


he's an anarchism-leaning liberal. pretty much all his work is "people vs institutions" and he likes people a lot more than institutions
it ends up a good position to analyze from because he sees/describes the positive intents (or not) of the top-down projects, but is also able to see how they come apart when you consider that these projects apply to people


Okay, awesome. That's exactly what I was hoping for. The two sentence blurb that I read about it before sounded interesting but also a little ambiguous in the way it mentioned something about his "anti-government, anti social engineering" point of view. Basically I just wanted to make sure this wasn't some bullshit libertarian critique against state-run programs, so I'm really glad to hear that he's more anarchist leaning. The book sounds great.
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Postby tanaka » Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:51 am

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I like Blavatsky's bit about séances, how they're a waste of time because you only end up communicating with "astral hobos" - the spiritual equivalent of 4chan trolls, fucking around with the material world because they're bored, the more respectable spirits all having more important stuff to do. Just because a being is supernatural, doesn't mean it's not ignorant or y'know... a jerk. Eliade says that although mediums had existed for centuries, it wasn't until the 1800s that spirits had to manifest themselves in the physical world thru sounds (knocks on walls) and floating tables and whatnot in order to prove their existence. He also points out that even Blavatsky, a sworn enemy of the spiritists, still had to "materialize" objects out of thin air and modernize ancient traditions in order to win followers - e.g. combining Darwinism and Buddhism.
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