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Postby loaf angel » Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:34 am

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Postby lockheed » Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:48 am

yes, let's talk about the guy who wrote 30 books
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Postby inspectorhound » Tue Sep 15, 2015 2:02 am

cool dude

got really into him in high school for whatever reason
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Postby lockheed » Tue Sep 15, 2015 2:18 am

lets smoke weed on his grave
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Postby lockheed » Tue Sep 15, 2015 2:19 am

wouldnt that be rad, maybe as rad as The Power and the Glory
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Postby swan » Tue Sep 15, 2015 2:28 am

hey everyone what's your fav graham greene book?
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Postby Hal Jordan » Tue Sep 15, 2015 6:36 am

Brighton Rock
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Postby Eyeball Kid » Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:24 am

Our Man in Havana or The Quiet American
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Postby Hal Jordan » Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:59 am

greene is the rare author whose work i might find totally boring in parts, yet i'm still reading along because of the prose alone. The Comedians is probably the best example of it. i'd constantly think how it was a slog to get through then before i knew it i was done faster than most books i read.

Our Man in Havana and The Quiet American are both great.

thread may inspire me to finally read Travels with My Aunt
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Postby Luke » Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:14 am

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Postby Eyeball Kid » Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:41 am

Hal Jordan wrote:greene is the rare author whose work i might find totally boring in parts, yet i'm still reading along because of the prose alone. The Comedians is probably the best example of it. i'd constantly think how it was a slog to get through then before i knew it i was done faster than most books i read.

I mentioned this the last time Greene was brought up here but of the approximately 10 books of his I've read, the only one I did not care for was Orient Express. This had less to do with the prose and more that too often he relied on ugly stereotypes—the scheming Jew, the vicious lesbian, etc. The novel is still not that bad if you're willing to make allowances for it being written in a less enlightened time.
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Postby big zorb » Tue May 15, 2018 10:46 pm

i am reading the quiet american, my first greene novel (somehow).
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Postby Eyeball Kid » Tue May 15, 2018 10:59 pm

This thread was from when I briefly experimented with not italicizing book titles. What a time capsule.
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Postby Frank » Tue May 15, 2018 11:04 pm

the heart of the matter
the end of the affair
the power and the glory
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the quiet american

thats all ive read though
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Postby ripersnifle » Tue May 15, 2018 11:04 pm

Eyeball Kid wrote:This thread was from when I briefly experimented with not italicizing book titles. What a time capsule.
i always enjoy you italicizing titles EK.
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Postby vivian darko » Wed May 16, 2018 1:03 am

the quiet american is cool but i prefer both the end of the affair and the power and the glory.

every criticism leveled at the end of the affair is true and it's kind of an annoying book but it just bulldozes my resistance i dunno. it's probably my favorite of his.
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Postby Quixotic » Wed May 16, 2018 1:14 am

i really enjoyed our man in havana

i just finished the quiet american and both liked and disliked it. the writing was great but i thought the worldview it was espousing was a bit shitty imo (but maybe i misread that?)
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Postby sadville » Wed May 16, 2018 1:23 am

the power and the glory is so rad

also the quiet american, the heart of the matter, the end of the affair

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Postby Seamus » Wed May 16, 2018 7:39 am

he's an author who wrote a lot of good books but never managed to write a great one
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Postby office plant » Wed May 16, 2018 9:38 am

sadville wrote:the power and the glory is so rad

also the quiet american, the heart of the matter, the end of the affair

typical post it looks like


yeah

i never read power and the glory, looks like i have to
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Postby Hal Jordan » Wed May 16, 2018 10:25 am

Quixotic wrote:i really enjoyed our man in havana

i just finished the quiet american and both liked and disliked it. the writing was great but i thought the worldview it was espousing was a bit shitty imo (but maybe i misread that?)

It is an allegory for the US entering vietnam. I need to reread. I picked up a notated version a few years back, might give that one a shot.
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Postby Hal Jordan » Wed May 16, 2018 10:25 am

This thread did inspire me to read travels with my aunt. Pretty good!
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Postby wong » Wed May 16, 2018 10:41 am

Sent abs Brighton Rock as part of my Secret Santa gift.
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Postby jewels » Wed May 16, 2018 11:06 am

his short story, "the destructors" really stuck with me. I have no idea what to make of it.
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Postby sadville » Wed May 16, 2018 11:34 am

it also stuck with donnie darko
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Postby Quixotic » Wed May 16, 2018 11:22 pm

Hal Jordan wrote:
Quixotic wrote:i really enjoyed our man in havana

i just finished the quiet american and both liked and disliked it. the writing was great but i thought the worldview it was espousing was a bit shitty imo (but maybe i misread that?)

It is an allegory for the US entering vietnam. I need to reread. I picked up a notated version a few years back, might give that one a shot.


right, and i think the metaphor could equally apply for 'naive' US intervention abroad in general, but my sense was that greene favoured the cynical, dispassionate british imperial ideology which is just as horrible. like, "we've been around the block, we know what we're doing in [country]"
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Postby vivian darko » Wed May 16, 2018 11:24 pm

the ending of that book has the englishman murder the american out of jealousy and rationalize it as for the greater good.Toggle Spoiler i don't think greene is on his side, though he was conservative iirc.
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Postby Quixotic » Wed May 16, 2018 11:52 pm

vivian darko wrote:the ending of that book has the englishman murder the american out of jealousy and rationalize it as for the greater good.Toggle Spoiler i don't think greene is on his side, though he was conservative iirc.


yeah you're right. i guess my read was that greene came off as the exact sort of person who still favoured intervention and the natural dominance of the west over the east?
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Postby office plant » Thu May 17, 2018 3:28 am

Quixotic wrote:
vivian darko wrote:the ending of that book has the englishman murder the american out of jealousy and rationalize it as for the greater good.Toggle Spoiler i don't think greene is on his side, though he was conservative iirc.


yeah you're right. i guess my read was that greene came off as the exact sort of person who still favoured intervention and the natural dominance of the west over the east?


maybe I have to read it again but idk how you can get this out of quiet american
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