WOLFMANS 15: RETURN TO RAJADA ~DAY 2 ENDS 7PMEST~

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Postby Luke » Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:50 pm

If lod's a villager, why the confidence?
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Postby granger » Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:50 pm

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Postby clwon » Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:51 pm

Luke wrote:If lod's a villager, why the confidence?


I'm glad to not be the only person wondering
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Postby Luke » Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:53 pm

If there was a scan against me, it would show up as a selection of good/evil, and I think I deserve a chance to at least attempt to prove that I'm on the side of good.
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Postby Luke » Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:55 pm

As it stands, I have an accusation from alice, who I think is good at this game, and I would like to hear out.

An accusation from the avowed Tanner, who is the Tanner.

Then this, spearheaded by Drew and lod, who haven't given any reasoning beyond my acting suspicious, which I cannot get anymore clarification about.
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Postby clwon » Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:56 pm

I just want to see some kinda proof that LoD is not FJM

bc today is the day FJM makes his move...and LoD is already offering himself up for death...
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Postby Luke » Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:58 pm

lod, you're clearly implying you're in contact with the detective, let everyone know if there was a scan, and in that case, what it was.
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Postby palmer eldritch » Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:01 pm

clown wrote:I just want to see some kinda proof that LoD is not FJM

bc today is the day FJM makes his move...and LoD is already offering himself up for death...


uh what
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Postby clwon » Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:08 pm

why are you trying to confuse me
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Postby palmer eldritch » Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:09 pm

I don't think I need to do anything to confuse you

Luke is bad

you're probably bad
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Postby clwon » Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:13 pm

I'm not sure about Luke

I know I'm not bad

not sure why you're ignoring LoD's behavior and suddenly trying to fuck with me...
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Postby palmer eldritch » Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:13 pm

cause I know luke is bad and lod is good
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Postby Luke » Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:14 pm

clown wrote:I'm not sure about Luke

I know I'm not bad

not sure why you're ignoring LoD's behavior and suddenly trying to fuck with me...


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Postby clwon » Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:15 pm

can you explain to me why you know this instead of confusing/throwing out wild accusations about me
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Postby palmer eldritch » Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:15 pm

cause I'm fucking cool
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Postby sevenarts » Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:17 pm

Neil jolts awake, from a dream in which a big black bird was flying across the desert. For some reason, he's convinced that he IS the bird. He checks his face, it feels strange and foreign. Is... is he smiling?

The sensation doesn't last long when he remembers he's still in Rajada and people are acting real strange. There's this Luke guy who's been acting real shady. There's this guy who admits he just wants to piss people off and get them to kill him, and yet for some reason everyone is listening to his advice. There's this clown who just seems straight up confused about everything. What a mess.

The worst part is, with all the decapitations and whatnot, it's doubtful anyone is gonna buy a painting.
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Postby lordofdiapers » Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:19 pm

Yeah same for me, people tell me stuff
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Postby lordofdiapers » Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:19 pm

And listen to me, for the most part
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Postby iambic » Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:59 pm

lordofdiapers wrote:The way I see it, we have three options:

A) No Kill We learn nothing. I don't die because the wolves be stupid to kill me . It would validate the absolute fact that I am a villager and not trying to swindle the village into making a bad call. We lose another player to our numbers in the night and then we are right back here where we started.

B) Kill LoD Kill me and find out the truth that I am, as said, 100% a villager. Someone else is killed in the night, possibly someone valuable and then we are back again where we started, but at least you know I'm not full of shit.

C) Kill luke Luke dies, he's evil it rules. If he's not, kill me, I'll happily go to the gallows. But this wont happen.

you missed option D) Kill Luke Luke dies; he's good; it's terrible.

now, you seem overwhelmingly certain that Luke is a radical. righteous! I just don't see how that's possible unless Luke himself fucked up in dialogue with you/werd/Alice; the game mechanics are such that you could not possibly know beyond doubt at this point in time without leaps of faith, and I think it's unlikely that Luke, of all players, nailed his own coffin. I also assume you could just share it if he did.

simultaneously, I agree with laserblast that this being an elaborate TE stunt is unlikely, given you and werd are competent and this would be a suicidal play to run on D1.

so basically I don't understand how you got a good cabal rolling this early. on the bright side, if Luke is a clean kill, I'll vote your party line.
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Postby universe » Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:02 pm

Things have really escalated since this morning. When I talked to Floyd earlier, I was pretty confused by how bold (and, honestly, erratic) he was being, voting wildly, switching votes, etc. When Drew backed him up, I couldn't believe that he'd openly admit to being a good special, and also risk burning the protection of Pat so early in the game by doing so. And now LOD jumping in... he's adding a lot of noise, but not a lot of substance to the discussion. And like Aeris said, moving so swiftly on Day 1 on such circumstantial evidence is usually a no-no.

But a gauntlet has been thrown. Either we find out the truth about Luke, or the Floyd/Drew/LOD axis is shown to be a fraud. If it's not a fraud, then I worry that we might have exposed ourselves more than is wise just to get a single radical.

No Kill

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Postby can't » Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:11 pm

I can't wait to hear from the corkmaster about all of this
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Postby palmer eldritch » Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:25 pm

where steve roleplay at he usually loves to kill people
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Postby Kaputt » Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:26 pm

Luke"

There are quite a few people implicated if this goes wrong so let's do it.
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Postby lordofdiapers » Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:37 pm

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Postby lordofdiapers » Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:44 pm

I am a villager
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Postby Luke » Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:44 pm

lordofdiapers wrote:I am a villager


Then why are you cabaled up day 1?
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Postby Luke » Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:49 pm

Here's what laserblast's hinting at:

luke 2:18 PM You too, huh?
laserblast
2:19 PM I said my piece ITT. Not feeling good about it, but I don't see what Werd/LOD/Palmer gain from this if you're good.
2:20
If you are good, my sincerest apologies.
laserblast
2:41 PM Since you're going to die anyway, and I'm pretty clearly good, why not tell me what you are?
luke
2:42 PM Medium.
2:42
And I can prove it.
2:43
I need to wait until n2 to be able to ask the question, though.
luke
2:59 PM you got real quiet there.
laserblast
3:31 PM I took a shower.
3:31
Shall we resume?
luke
3:32 PM Yeah, well, it's like 14-10, so I might be able to pull it out, but lod's not answering questions in the thread, drew's not answering questions on slack, and everyone's listening to the tanner.
3:32
But go ahead.
3:32
What do you want to ask?
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3:32 PM luke [3:42 PM]
Medium.[3:42]
And I can prove it.[3:43]
I need to wait until n2 to be able to ask the question, though.
3:32
Elaborate?
luke
3:33 PM I can ask whatever question of Alice, and it will be publicly announced.
laserblast
3:33 PM Hmm.
3:34
Doesn't that defeat the purpose of the Medium, though? You announce the question in the thread, then you have to answer your question in code? How will anyone know it's you for sure anyway?
3:34
Wouldn't it make more sense to use an HP-style password/cipher?
luke
3:35 PM I can say what the question is in private, and then the answer will be obvious.
3:35
Like, if I were to tell you what I would ask, or you could tell me what to ask, and the public answer would make it obvious to you.
laserblast
3:36 PM Hmm.
luke
3:37 PM Bring that to drew, he's not talking to me.
laserblast
3:37 PM Doesn't that depend on Alice's breadth of knowledge, though? I'm just thinking this through.
luke
3:37 PM If the question itself is the code, then it doesn't matter.
laserblast
3:38 PM But is the question publicly announced? Or just the answer? I assume if you're the Medium, you asked the mods about this?
luke
3:38 PM I think the answer, but drew's clearly connected.
3:38
So if he or lod are conviced, it'll make it easy for me.
laserblast
3:38 PM All right. I'll bring it to him. Or, rather, I'll c+p this conversation after introducing the idea if you're okay with it.
luke
3:39 PM That's fine.
laserblast
3:39 PM I am honestly not sure who the hell to believe. Neither story makes perfect sense to me.
3:39
So I'll mediate. Why not.
luke
3:39 PM Look either I'm lying or not. Worst case, you lynch me D2.
3:39
Best case, you don't kill the Medium.
laserblast
3:40 PM Fair enough.
laserblast
3:48 PM Oh. Here's a dumb question.
3:48
Why not just claim this publicly
luke
3:49 PM Cause maybe I won't be wolf killed?
laserblast
3:50 PM Dude, you're pretty much going to be wolf killed no matter what at this point.
luke
3:51 PM Well, I'd also be immediately Cable Guyed too.
laserblast
3:53 PM Right, that's why you'll die. If you're telling the truth, no one is going to risk keeping you alive if you're a good special, as you're claiming, and which is going to be necessary to save you, probably.
luke
3:53 PM It's almost like I'm trying a long shot.
laserblast
3:53 PM Fair.
luke
3:55 PM And I theoretically could be protected, too.
laserblast
3:56 PM Theoretically, but you'd have to convince Werd to do that, or whomever else is in that cabal, and he seems 100% sure you are evil.
luke
3:56 PM You talked to him?
laserblast
3:57 PM I copy and pasted your proposal as I said I would, yes.
3:57
He was ... dismissive.
luke
3:57 PM what'd he say?
laserblast
3:58 PM that there's no doubt you're evil
luke
3:58 PM Any sort of reasoning?
laserblast
4:02 PM He has consistently refused to offer it but promised that it would eventually make sense. That makes me as nervous as the holes in your story, frankly.
luke
4:05 PM I'm really at a loss as to these holes in my story.
laserblast
4:06 PM Well, not holes. But things that don't strike me as things that would be wise for a Medium to do. The private room, a lack of explanation as to HOW TE would know that you're the Medium (particularly because your initial story was "I'm not the Medium," which strikes me as a weird thing for a Medium to say)
4:07
why single that role out. wink wink?
4:07
Etc., etc.
luke
4:07 PM Better to hide in plain sight, don't you think?
4:08
What about the private room would be against a medium's mo?
laserblast
4:09 PM No, I don't think, because eventually someone will turn around and say, "Shit, remember when that guy said he wasn't the Medium?" Especially you. Though you are admittedly, in any game, caught between a rock and a hard place.
4:09
So I get it a little more for you.
luke
4:09 PM Well, a little public show of support would be nice.
laserblast
4:10 PM Ditto with the private room. That is not a thing I would make as a good special, I don't think. Surely you remember the hilarity of ww4's Cabal Within a Cabal
luke
4:10 PM Was I in ww4?
4:10
I don't remember.
laserblast
4:10 PM That was the villager test game. Or maybe that was ww5. Whatever -- that game.
luke
4:12 PM Anyway, the thread is pretty much lod and palmer insisting on stuff, and people listening to them for whatever reason.
laserblast
4:12 PM I was going to ask whether you'd mind my pasting this in the thread with some of the role stuff left out.
4:12
I agree with you that I should post some of this itt.
4:12
But I do not want to put a role claim in there.
luke
4:12 PM Sure, go ahead.
laserblast
4:16 PM Hmm. I might leave the role claim stuff out there because there is no way to summarize it without explicitly mentioning the claim.
luke
4:16 PM Sure.
laserblast
4:16 PM Like, "He says there's a way to prove that he's good ... uh ... it needs to wait a while" is a little obvious.
laserblast
4:23 PM I went as far as I could. Ultimately, dude, I think it's 60-65% that you're Evil. Sorry.
luke
4:24 PM That's fine.
4:28
So, why didn't you post the full thing?
laserblast
4:28 PM Most of it is about you claiming Medium
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Postby Luke » Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:55 pm

So, as much as I would've liked to stay alive a little longer, here's the deal.

I can contact alice with a question, the answer's unimportant, but I can create the cypher to make it obvious that I am who I say I am.

That being said, I'm going to be Cable Guyed/wolf killed tonight if I'm not lynched, but at this point I'm more useful that as a wolf kill than a day lynch.
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Postby Luke » Sun Feb 21, 2016 6:02 pm

By tonight, I can either prove that I'm good via wolf kill, prove that I'm good via the form of the message from alice, been proven to have been stalling for time, or cable guyed.
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Postby lordofdiapers » Sun Feb 21, 2016 6:03 pm

Luke wrote:
lordofdiapers wrote:I am a villager


Then why are you cabaled up day 1?


Because I kick ass
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