Adderall days

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Postby tth » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:44 am

returning to 5-htp and vyvanse, im noticing more synergy between the two. 5-htp really makes me notice the vyvanse and tweaks me out a bit (but not in a bad way, it's sort of euphoric).
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Re: Adderall days

Postby tth » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:51 am

i just spent 30 minutes smoking a cigarillo and talking about console specific optimization's w/ my roommate. factor 5 did some crazy stuff on the n64. they wrote their own microcode for the graphics coprocessor and Star Wars: Episode I: Battle for Naboo ended up looking better on n64 than on pc even though pc hardware was significantly better (e.g. the n64 had 8 megabytes of ram max while consumer pcs had 128-256mb)
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Re: Adderall days

Postby tth » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:52 am

does anyone (esp endo) have any other cool stories like this?

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Re: Adderall days

Postby banquo » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:54 am

tth wrote:returning to 5-htp and vyvanse, im noticing more synergy between the two. 5-htp really makes me notice the vyvanse and tweaks me out a bit (but not in a bad way, it's sort of euphoric).


are you taking it the night before or a few hours before? the 5-htp bottle says it can be used as a sleep aid, so i'm not sure about taking it at the same time.

if at all, i've been taking the 5-htp the night before.

also still unsure whether the L-tyrosine is working with it, but i think it is
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Re: Adderall days

Postby banquo » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:00 am

most of the questions i had about the preloading/enhancing stuff was directly from this: http://electrojams.com/forum/showthread ... 1QPJfEge3E

i figured since both are amphetamines, there might be similarities with the enhancement/otherwise.
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Re: Adderall days

Postby Manifest Apathy » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:59 am

Everyone in the adderall thread should give dexedrine a try if you can get it prescribed. I took ritalin for a while and eventually just burnt out way hard. Dex is the main ingredient in adderall anyways (and is therefore prob cheaper) and doesn't have any of the "L-amphetamine" salts that make kids chill and adults tweak.

Lots of doc's still associate it with "Dexy's Midnight Runners" and the whole 70s amphetamine scene tho
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Re: Adderall days

Postby douchechill » Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:46 am

Any of you guys ever take concerta? How does it compare to adderall?
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Postby Manifest Apathy » Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:08 am

Concerta is a strange form of Ritalin that is extended release but the pill is digested differently or something. If you break open all the shit it's just Ritalin from what I know. You'd be much better off with normal generic extended release Ritalin. Concerta's benefit is that you that you don't have to go to the school nurse more than once for your morning dose I guess I dunno some people like it better.

Concerta and Vyvanse is the same shit, it just hits you differently. Vyvanse is metabolized as dextroamphetamine, all the methylamphenidate products are just different mechanisms of release. The only reason this shit exists is because the Patents run out and they have to think of a "new drug" to make next, hence my projected distrust of Adderall vs. normal Dextroamphetamine. Find out what the cost breakdown comes down to and then make the decision based on your needs, but keep in mind you don't need to pay more for anything brand name. If anything I think Concerta was rougher on my stomach.
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Re: Adderall days

Postby Manifest Apathy » Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:12 am

As far as ritalin vs. adderall goes—could you see yourself as more of a crack addict type or do you prefer the cleaner high of meth?

FWIW, some pseudoscience blind test of different stimulants on heavy drug users showed that Ritalin affects the brain more like cocaine. I prefer Adderall, it's more of a positive mood drug.

http://biopsychiatry.com/methcomp.htm

Also, Adderall seems much harder to burn out on than Concerta/Ritalin. Either way you go I find that you can take this stuff every day for about 3 months before you burn out and then you sometimes have to take a sabbatical. The good news is that dextroamphetamine/adderall have reverse tolerance, so you can start it again with no problems. The drug vacations really do make a difference in the long run.

Ironically the stimulant that has the lowest neurotoxicity and is approved by the FDA for children is known as "Desoxyn". If you're unfamiliar with Desoxyn, you might recognize the drug's chemical name, "Methamphetamine".
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Re: Adderall days

Postby stupid ass » Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:41 am

Manifest Apathy wrote:Everyone in the adderall thread should give dexedrine a try if you can get it prescribed. I took ritalin for a while and eventually just burnt out way hard. Dex is the main ingredient in adderall anyways (and is therefore prob cheaper) and doesn't have any of the "L-amphetamine" salts that make kids chill and adults tweak.

Lots of doc's still associate it with "Dexy's Midnight Runners" and the whole 70s amphetamine scene tho


dexies > adderall > ritalin
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Re: Adderall days

Postby Manifest Apathy » Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:28 am

stupid ass wrote:
Manifest Apathy wrote:Everyone in the adderall thread should give dexedrine a try if you can get it prescribed. I took ritalin for a while and eventually just burnt out way hard. Dex is the main ingredient in adderall anyways (and is therefore prob cheaper) and doesn't have any of the "L-amphetamine" salts that make kids chill and adults tweak.

Lots of doc's still associate it with "Dexy's Midnight Runners" and the whole 70s amphetamine scene tho


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Re: Adderall days

Postby Gehrig Industries » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:06 pm

I just took an Adderall out of boredom

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Re: Adderall days

Postby parades » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:07 pm

clean if you havent
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im gonna take a bunch tonight to get a project done
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Re: Adderall days

Postby Gehrig Industries » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:08 pm

I was actually going through codeacademy last night

but then I got annoyed wondering how long until I'm doing something I don't already know how to do then I quit

maybe i should just power through it
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Postby parades » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:09 pm

dont bother with code academy if you already know programming paradigms, the best way to learn a new language is just to try writing something

because they dont really teach you library functions or practices like an o'reilly book
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Postby Gehrig Industries » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:19 pm

I don't know if I know programming paradigms

I've just skimmed through books to learn just enough to write simple code that I used for work
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Re: Adderall days

Postby ghostguts » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:20 pm

I've been craving some lately for entertainment purposes. Probably for the best that I'm broke at the moment and have other things to spend future checks on.
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Postby Gehrig Industries » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:20 pm

I think I want to get to the point where if I have a oddball idea that I need some coding skills to execute, I can just spend a few hours doing it instead of wondering if it's worth spending a week learning how to do it
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Re: Adderall days

Postby ghostguts » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:20 pm

play poker, listen to music, vape up and enjoy that speedy rush
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Re: Adderall days

Postby Locke » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:18 pm

i just cleaned the house now i'm gonna beat my pacifism high score :twisted:
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Re: Adderall days

Postby street hustler slokra » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:46 pm

i have an adderall scrip and want to start coding/programming and no idea where to start other than having the adderall scrip

what books should i get/which languages should i start with - for the sake of the question assume i don't know anything
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Postby Spotlight Kid » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:52 pm

iTunes u has a bunch of courses on different coding languages.
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Re: Adderall days

Postby Spartacus » Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:39 pm

has anyone noticed that the potency of their generic adderall tabs has decreased? or am i building a tolerance? i need to take more than twice as much as i used to to achieve the same effects.
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Re: Adderall days

Postby Gehrig Industries » Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:46 pm

spartacus your second theory seems much more plausible

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Re: Adderall days

Postby d2michael » Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:50 pm

Tolerance is a bitch, I usually detox after a certain period to let my body settle down and get its bearings again.

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Re: Adderall days

Postby Gehrig Industries » Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:50 pm

Slokra wrote:i have an adderall scrip and want to start coding/programming and no idea where to start other than having the adderall scrip

what books should i get/which languages should i start with - for the sake of the question assume i don't know anything

I mean there are a million resources on the internet for someone in your situation, just google around until you find something that suits you

There's lots of free lectures, free web applet workbook type things, free books, message boards etc
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Re: Adderall days

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Re: Adderall days

Postby Spartacus » Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:01 am

Gehrig Industries wrote:spartacus your second theory seems much more plausible

stay safe with your amphetamine use my brother


well i only take adderall 2-3 times/week. and one of the reasons i asked is that i have noticed a significant difference in potency between generic manufacturers. the tabs rite aid sells did not affect me like the CVS tabs, for example. so i wondered if all generic manufacturers were skimping now, especially in light of the recent shortage
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Re: Adderall days

Postby Manifest Apathy » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:43 am

Spartacus wrote:
Gehrig Industries wrote:spartacus your second theory seems much more plausible

stay safe with your amphetamine use my brother


well i only take adderall 2-3 times/week. and one of the reasons i asked is that i have noticed a significant difference in potency between generic manufacturers. the tabs rite aid sells did not affect me like the CVS tabs, for example. so i wondered if all generic manufacturers were skimping now, especially in light of the recent shortage


it's possible. the "Mylan" generic brand of Clonazepam is apparently much less effective than the name brand Klonopin. When I switched pharmacies I started noticing withdrawals and found other information online pointing to similar examples. When it comes to stuff like schedule II drugs, I imagine the generics could certainly be reduced in potency and anyone who complains could easily be pegged as a drug abuser by their doctor since diminished drug effects are 90% of the time due to over-medication.

I just finished all my tests for the semester and can't read anything right now, but FDA law might have something of a loophole for schedule II drugs, I really don't know. I've had similar experiences though.

EDIT: I did happen to bring this up with my doctor, whom I have a very good relationship with, and he happily prescribed me a different generic that worked fine. Which alludes towards what I was saying.
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Re: Adderall days

Postby Spartacus » Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:21 pm

regarding the "loophole", that's what my last shrink told me about. with certain classes of drugs, generics need only be within something like +/- 10-20% of the listed dose. so a 100mg tab might have 90mg of the drug, and it might have 110mg. this is what the psychiatrist told me.

i'm not even certain that explains what i've observed, though. i had two generics at one time back about a year ago. one was barr brand. the other i can't remember the mfgr. the barr brand jacked me up beyond belief. the other made me feel as if i hadn't had anything at all -- like someone had filled a script with sugar pills. i've read that people have had similar experiences vis-a-vis name brand adderall and generics. so i don't think i'm just imagining it.
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