Adderall days

[Locke]

were the good 1s pink or orange?

[Spartacus]

were the good 1s pink or orange?

i used to take 10mg tabs (2-3 tabs/day). they were blue. the ones that worked had a chalky consistency. the ones that didn't were harder, more like sweet tarts.

i'm now taking 20mg tabs that are light orange. i take 2-3 tabs/day, so 40-60mg. one tab does very little for me. if i take 2-3, i notice the drug and it is pretty strong, but it's not the same hyper-focus i used to get from the chalky blue pills. it's not all bad because i act like less of a retard as a result, but i did like the hyper-focus effects for stuff like reading.

[parades]

i take 20s but only once every few weeks to study, gonna take one this afternoon and plow through this programming project (hopefully)

[Manifest Apathy]

regarding the "loophole", that's what my last shrink told me about. with certain classes of drugs, generics need only be within something like +/- 10-20% of the listed dose. so a 100mg tab might have 90mg of the drug, and it might have 110mg. this is what the psychiatrist told me.

i'm not even certain that explains what i've observed, though. i had two generics at one time back about a year ago. one was barr brand. the other i can't remember the mfgr. the barr brand jacked me up beyond belief. the other made me feel as if i hadn't had anything at all -- like someone had filled a script with sugar pills. i've read that people have had similar experiences vis-a-vis name brand adderall and generics. so i don't think i'm just imagining it.

interesting.

you mentioned something about it being related to the "shortage", which makes no sense why any manufacturer would want to make stronger pills, aside from turning people into adderall fiends or something?

Big Pharma 2 thread

[Manifest Apathy]

I've been trying to tell y'all, ya gotta make the switch to Dex

Never had a bad day with it.

[southpaw]

Just wait.

[Manifest Apathy]

I mean, at least I have a rough estimate of what would happen to my mind if I took this stuff forever. It's like comparing Coca Cola to Diet Coke, you know what's gonna happen if you drink lotsa reg coke for your whole life but aspartame? what's that stuff!?!?

[Manifest Apathy]

This is the "Adderall days" thread, "anxiety thread" is several pages that way -----> in case u r worried about the long term cognitive effects of amphetamines

[banquo]

has anyone noticed that the potency of their generic adderall tabs has decreased? or am i building a tolerance? i need to take more than twice as much as i used to to achieve the same effects.

a few potential answers, one you mentioned (generic= 90-110% active ingredient)

another is how soon you take them from the last. i don't think it's as much a tolerance as it is just letting chemicals build back up to be released.

another is if your metabolism has increased from before it would take a higher dose to have the same effects. even kids with high metabolisms need higher doses than you'd expect (at least for XR, not sure if same is true for non-xr).

another is if you're taking Vitamin-C with it, as that would decrease the effects. eating shouldn't make a difference otherwise, but i seem to think it does.

i haven't noticed a lower potency in generic. the blue chalky solid tablet i think were non-XR. Usually XR come in pills with tiny pellets in them, and the tiny pellets are of different sizes so that they release some immediately and some later. also, i'm pretty sure the blue chalky only had 1 amphetamine while XR has two types. i prefer XR, but the blue ones were good for a little bit of time.

[Spartacus]

yeah, i've used short release, XR and vyvanse. short release hits harder and wears off sooner, the latter being the reason i like it -- i don't like taking adderall early in the day because i'm often in court, and if i take XR after 10-11am, there's a good chance i won't be able to fall asleep.

i didn't know that about vitamin C. that's actually a possible answer. i take vitamins more regularly now. i also drink caffeine more frequently with adderall than i'm used to, which i've read reduces the effects.

[wyatt]

#dayz

[parades]

so i took a 20 and stayed up all last night and i have a project due at midnight should i take another one

[Spartacus]

so i took a 20 and stayed up all last night and i have a project due at midnight should i take another one

yeah, keep it going.

[Locke]

sounds like a plan

[parades]

think im gonna wait it out til 2:30 so my stomach is void

[Spartacus]

did i tell the story about my housemate? she was drunk last weekend and couldn't sleep for some reason. she made the brilliant decision to take a xanax while drunk, at about 1am. next thing she knows it's 4am and she's spent the last THREE HOURS writing and rewriting the perfect facebook status update. that's about when she snaps out of it and looks at the bottle she took pills from, which as it turns out was not her xanax prescription but her adderall prescription.

she told me this story at 10am after i woke up. she had been up all night and was pretty much delirious by that point.

[banquo]

so what'd the status update say

[bread]

Adderall has been sounding more and more appealing lately. My Wellbutrin/Ritalin combo isn't cutting it for the amount of work I have to do.

[wyatt]

bad day to discover Angry Birds Space.

[denvermax]

taking them with tums or any other antacid is a great way to increase their effectiveness. I think because it decreases stomach acidity, which increases the amount of the drug absorbed into your bloodstream

[Spartacus]

so what'd the status update say

she bailed on it

[banquo]

taking them with tums or any other antacid is a great way to increase their effectiveness. I think because it decreases stomach acidity, which increases the amount of the drug absorbed into your bloodstream

that's interesting, will try it later this week

[Manifest Apathy]

Adderall has been sounding more and more appealing lately. My Wellbutrin/Ritalin combo isn't cutting it for the amount of work I have to do.

I did the Wellbutrin/Ritalin combo for a while. There were a lot of just weird days where I would just be buzzing with energy but incapable of caring about anything because I felt really bad and other days I'd have the same buzz but felt pretty good. It's a newer drug that has a weird range of effects on people.

Be careful; apparently if you don't get good sleep while on Wellbutrin and then drink the next night after pulling an all nighter the previous night, you'll be setting yourself up for a seizure. Hopefully you already have been told that but based on the prevalence of Fucktardism in these sorta things ya never know.

My doctor told me he's had several perfectly healthy patients end up seizing from almost that exact same series of circumstances, despite having been warned.

EDIT: Also, (in my experience, again) Ritalin dips out in the long term much faster than Adderall. If you've been on Ritalin for longer than like, 6 months at a time, I wouldn't be surprised if you started feeling meh

[bread]

Holy shit, that's terrifying

I never pull all-nighters -- in fact, I rely heavily on sleeping pills (usually 4-5 benadryl + 3-6mg melatonin, rarely 2mg Lunesta + 3mg melatonin & sometimes + 1 benadryl) because I'm shook about basically everything which keeps me up if I'm not completely exhausted. So I always get at least 6 hours of sleep unless something terrible happens like scary noises or my cats acting like total fucking dicks.

ANYWAY. I've been on Ritalin since like 2001? 10mg, 3 times a day (which is I think is a lot? Apparently I have a crazy metabolism so I go through them quicky). I was on a Ritalin/Concerta combo but after college I dropped the Concerta and a little less than a year ago I replaced it with Wellbutrin. When I'm not completely overwhelmed the Wellbutrin works fine on its own. But with the Ritalin shortage, and with work lately being basically the most miserable fucking thing, I've been hoarding Ritalin and avoiding taking it so I don't run out. Finally I was just like holy shit if I keep saving it I'll never get to take it, but now I'm terrified of not being able to fill my next prescription.

Between the Ritalin/Concerta combo and the Ritalin/Wellbutrin combo I was on Ritalin alone and yeah, my mood or productivity or whatever it is varied day to day. Most days were good but other days nothing happened and I just felt like an idiot.

I don't know why I just told you my whole drug history. I've had a lot of wine. Fuck

[Manifest Apathy]

It's chill! I've had almost the exact same experiences. I'm definitely on the anxiety side so I can totally relate to the "shook up" stuff. I'm not gonna plug Dexedrine anymore, but as far as I know there is no Dexedrine shortage nor will there be because no one takes it anymore. The first thing I do when one of my Dexedrine Dayz goes horribly wrong (#addewrong?) I'll post about here!

Hot Damn! That's a lotta sleeping pills. Have you ever tried low doses of some sort of long acting Benzo like clonazepam/valium before? They apparently fuck with your REM sleep, but so does NOT SLEEPING, so I take them at night with one or two benadryl if I definitely can't sleep, and it does the trick.

Anxiety's a bitch and a little valium isn't gonna do more damage than causal drinking. I don't take any sort of SSRI/NRI anymore and feel pretty great with a very simple combo of uppers and downers. "Decisions"

[Spartacus]

i'm considering some adderall right now. i figure i have about 30 min to make up my mind before i'm risking serious sleep deprivation

[wyatt]

i have never had a problem going to sleep. if i can't sleep i just drink a beer or a glass of wine and i am fine.

[blogger status]

i have half a pink one and have never taken adderall will half wreck me

[wyatt]

no.should be good2go.

[sean g]

seeing a psych today, gonna try to get vyvanse. was on adderall about 5 years ago so I'm hoping it shouldn't be too difficult

wish me luck