Game of Thrones Season 2 (NO SPOILERS THREAD)

[delgriffith]

Maybe the dragons are just kinda shy? LOL

[delgriffith]

Well fuck, here we are.

[The Emperor's Son]

I don't understand why she didn't just show them the dragons.

i thought this too. my assumption was that she saw it as her only trump card, the only power she had in the situation, and she didn't want to reveal it right away for it to be dismissed immediately as a neat curiosity that bears no future threat because of their holders survival status. but on the other hands, they're dragons.

[IRZ]

I don't get why they didn't just tell the spear guys "well go ahead and kill them all and take the dragons. thx mother whatever"

[cram]

i have to admit i thought they had something else planned for that giant metal rod

[Spoilt Victorian Child]

Yeah I would definitely have needed him to elaborate on his instructions.

[Merciel]

i have to admit i thought they had something else planned for that giant metal rod

Yes me too.

I don't get why they didn't just tell the spear guys "well go ahead and kill them all and take the dragons. thx mother whatever"

Everybody's afraid the baby dragons will die without Dany. Nobody else has any idea how to keep them alive.

Not that this is a universally persuasive argument, but it does hold sway in some quarters.

also, budgetary reasons

Yeah that has to be it.

I don't recall offhand (my knowledge of the Dany storyline is by far the fuzziest) but I really don't think that's how that encounter went down in the books.

[Spoilt Victorian Child]

i hated that line in the season premiere where she doesn't know what kind of meat they eat.

And yeah wait since when does anything only eat a certain kind of meat?

[rtt]

i have to admit i thought they had something else planned for that giant metal rod

yeah and then it looked like it was going to be used antler end first and i was like GOOD LORD

[rtt]

the dragons are constantly shrieking out for shrimp so she knew she had to get in there

[trope]

once more for the nospoilerinos

[Spoilt Victorian Child]

"Oh my God we're going to starve back to extinction because this idiot woman won't feed us voles."

[Poptone]

I don't recall offhand (my knowledge of the Dany storyline is by far the fuzziest) but I really don't think that's how that encounter went down in the books.

They're quite happy to welcome her into the city, if I remember correctly

[Poptone]

I got all excited for more Greyjoy action when Pyke showed up in the credits, but

This might have been the best episode yet. Had fucking everything. Harrenhall was a bit more Maleficent's Keep-ish than I pictured, but was so awesomely holocausty and nightmarish. Of course a castle razed by dragons would look like that.

[cram]

"Oh my God we're going to starve back to extinction because this idiot woman won't feed us voles."

Qarth has this great place with endless breadsticks

[jerbear]

Was that a demon birthed at the end

[jerbear]

Demons freak me out

[IRZ]

"Oh my God we're going to starve back to extinction because this idiot woman won't feed us voles."

please keep your antisemitism limited to threads with staple posting in them

[Poptone]

i have to admit i thought they had something else planned for that giant metal rod

Yes me too.

yeah i was waiting for

Gleeson kinda overplayed that scene, imo

[Poptone]

also, Renly gets line of the episode.

"Born amidst salt and smoke? Is he a ham?"

[rtt]

While looking for a more detailed map of Westeros, I came across this, which is pretty interesting, even if some of it is speculative.



At that size it's pretty useless, so you can get the full size here: http://www.sermountaingoat.co.uk/map/index.php
or a direct link (recommend Right Click, Save As, since it's a 5mb file): http://www.sermountaingoat.co.uk/map/versions/speculative_map.jpg

Be aware that there could be some very minor spoilers if you read the text in the upper right, but after I read it, I didn't feel spoiled, and I'm usually pretty anal about stuff like that.
edit: OK, maybe a little spoiled. Don't read the last two paragraphs in the upper right if you want to avoid spoilers.

I didn't realize Vaes Dothrak was so far east. The title sequence makes it seem like it's just across the Narrow Sea.

how the hell did they get all the way to qarth?

[trope]

how the hell did they get all the way to qarth?

Yeah it kinda seems like they would've had to wander across Lhazar first, which isn't the way I remember it. But the guy who drew that map nodoubt did more research than a quick readthough of the series followed by forgetting most of it.

[sky cracks open]

I seem to remember in Season 1 they said that it took a month to travel from King's Landing to Winterfell, but then Ned was down in King's Landing in the next episode, so it's not too surprising that Dani crossed the Red Waste in 4 episodes.

[sky cracks open]

how the hell did they get all the way to qarth?

But the guy who drew that map nodoubt did more research than a quick readthough of the series followed by forgetting most of it.

Yeah, and the map on hbo.com is really similar to the one I posted, just not as detailed and more difficult to navigate.

http://viewers-guide.hbo.com/game-of-thrones/season2/#!/map/episodes/14/

[sky cracks open]

Also, they did go to Lhazar, because that's where Mirri Maz Duur was from... the woman who "tried" to heal Drogo.

From the GoT Wiki:

"Khal Drogo's khalasar raids a Lhazareen village, robbing its treasures and raping its women, to Daenerys Targaryen's horror. She convinces Khal Drogo to exercise mercy, triggering a challenge to Drogo's leadership from another warrior, Mago, which he defeats with ease, though he takes a wound. Amongst the women of the village that Daenerys rescues is a maegi, Mirri Maz Duur. Grateful to Daenerys for her help, Duur agrees to treat Drogo's wound."

[sky cracks open]

During the show, I kind of got the impression that they were heading west to the Narrow Sea in order to cross to Westeros, but it looks like they were actually going east to get more slaves and create a more powerful army... er... khalasar.

[Baby Museum]

During the show, I kind of got the impression that they were heading west to the Narrow Sea in order to cross to Westeros, but it looks like they were actually going east to get more slaves and create a more powerful army... er... khalasar.

yea they're slowing that storyline but now i can see it's gonna bump

i dig, i dig

[dr. badvibes]

Everybody's afraid the baby dragons will die without Dany. Nobody else has any idea how to keep them alive.

Not that this is a universally persuasive argument, but it does hold sway in some quarters.

the reverse of that is that i don't think anybody in that scene is really sure if a clutch of baby dragons is capable of killing 50 people standing around in robes and tunics, since they're starting to fade into legend by that point (i think the story is set 150+ years after the last dragon died). additionally, the symbiotic relationship between targaryens and dragons is one of the most enduring and public ideas about the creatures, so prematurely killing everybody and stealing the babies would be a bit like killing a nuclear scientist and taking his warhead without having any idea how it works

the only bad thing about this episode was the needless karth/quarth pronunciation punchline, which made no sense because dany had never seen the word written, had only heard it pronounced karth, and had said it that way herself earlier in the episode

that map is awesome, but sort of out of place in this thread (compressing the narrative for tv is going to inevitably compress the geography of the world)

[Milquetoaster Strudels]

Man, Stannis is not going to be too happy when he finds out his baby is black

[deadaswarhol]

anyone else think of this at the end?