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Postby Plainsong » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:16 pm

I didn't feel that his character was glorified either. I didn't feel a whole lot of sympathy for him though, and I mainly sympathised for Karen Black's character the most.
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Postby Eyeball Kid » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:22 pm

Any fans of Drive, He Said? It's only OK, but if you have any love of early 70's American filmmaking, it's worth a watch.
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Postby theendoftheworld666@aol.com » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:31 pm

gdi i watched the shining like a half dozen times a few winters ago and i keep telling myself i'll make it a tradition and then never get around to it. i know this is more of a nicholson thread rn but im dying to get home and throw this on now.
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Postby clouds » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:34 pm

Buzz Fledderjohn wrote:having just watched it for the first time, nicholson's character didn't really seem like he's being glorified or anything. seemed more of a pathetic and aimless figure. no?


lots of dudes on this very board talk about romanticizing pathetic and aimless characters with substance abuse issues or doing so when they were younger.

im not saying anyone watched that movie and was inspired to leave their gf at a truck stop, but come one the whole tortured smart blue collar misunderstood cool guy asshole character is not somone 100% hated by all viewers
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Postby clouds » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:37 pm

steve mcqueen actually slapped the shit out of a woman (unscripted) and his name is literally synonymous with cool in america

e. weird point to make with an el topo av but i think that controversy was him not using english like we do
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Postby Eyeball Kid » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:37 pm

I can see some people getting that impression, but those people that do are also assholes themselves. It's not on the movie to fingerwag and tell the viewers this guy is a self-centered shithead.

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Postby Buzz Fledderjohn » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:40 pm

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Buzz Fledderjohn wrote:having just watched it for the first time, nicholson's character didn't really seem like he's being glorified or anything. seemed more of a pathetic and aimless figure. no?


lots of dudes on this very board talk about romanticizing pathetic and aimless characters with substance abuse issues or doing so when they were younger.

im not saying anyone watched that movie and was inspired to leave their gf at a truck stop, but come one the whole tortured smart blue collar misunderstood cool guy asshole character is not somone 100% hated by all viewers


i mean, most great protagonists are not "100% hated" - that's looking at it in a pretty obtuse, binary way. he's damaged, complicated, sometimes awful, sometimes likable. obviously a shitty person.
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Postby clouds » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:40 pm

wasn't there a "bobby dupea" boarder once?
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Postby Buzz Fledderjohn » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:43 pm

does anyone have actual problems with the movie or just that boarders may have expressed admiration for the character at some point
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Postby clouds » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:46 pm

i still love the movie all i said was he's a shitty character and lots of dudes like me probably viewed it in bad way and i got holden caulfield explained to me
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Postby defective » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:53 pm

there's nothing remotely romantic about bobby dupea. the guy is doomed from the start. that nicholson makes you identify is one of his great magic tricks.

i know when i saw it as an adolescent, i didn't totally get it but i absolutely related to the sense of rage and general disgust and self-hatred he oozes throughout. so, i didn't romanticize it but i certainly identified with it (even if i'd never leave a girl at a truck stop).

the case could be made that it's his truest performance, b/c it connected with a stifled anger that ran deep within him as a younger man.

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Postby Plainsong » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:34 am


Watched it for the first time last night and loved it. One of my many favourite scenes. One of my favourite Nicholson performances.
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Postby internethandle » Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:29 am

Buzz Fledderjohn wrote:dude at least needs to shoot like a cameo in something so this isn't his last flick

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Postby gold and glass » Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:41 pm

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Postby gold and glass » Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:42 pm

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Postby Seamus » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:48 pm

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screw it, as good as it gets was pretty good!
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Postby nice pass » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:56 pm

That was kinda homophobic iirc
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Postby Durham » Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:10 pm

Stuntman post, HDS pic, good ass movies being talked about....great thread
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Postby inmate » Sat Apr 21, 2018 5:00 pm

i haven’t seen as good as it gets since like sixth grade, but i remember loving nicholson’s performance and the fact that i still remember so much about it leads me to believe it’s his most underrated performance
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Postby scrambled » Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:34 am

ok i just saw The Shining for the first time

what's the best like media/writing/podcast to digest some of this stuff and gain further context
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Postby boatwave » Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:49 am

There are several ways to go with that, someone else can help because I'm no expert, but lemme just give you the starter info:

Stephen King didn't like the movie.
Stanley Kubrick employed a ton of weird spacial tricks about the layout of the hotel to confuse your brain while watching.
Kubrick was really mean to Shelley Duvall on set.
Ridley Scott used some of the footage from the beginning, when they're driving to the hotel, in an alternate ending of Blade Runner (I've never seen it!).
The hotel that it's based on and shot in are different, and might be different than in the book? Something like that.
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Postby spix et chicho » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:50 am

people don’t talk about Carnal Knowledge enough. it’s one of the darkest movies I’ve ever seen. no one’s really done anything about the insidious sickness of masculine sexuality like that since except maybe the other great Art Film™️, Bad Timing
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Postby grammatron » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:53 am

The book is about a haunted hotel that drives a man crazy.
The movie is about a man who goes crazy in a haunted hotel.
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Postby Spoilt Victorian Child » Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:17 am

I was... slightly happier when I thought Art had only been in Bad Timing and Carnal Knowledge. I see now that he has been in a few other movies. That is so foolish.

The Shining is the best movie I've ever seen. Maybe this is the year I get up the courage to watch it again.
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Postby Darlene » Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:32 am

The job interview scene always freaked me out. Its like that Kids In The Hall sketch where Dave Foleys character has a speech impediment that makes him talk like he's being sarcastic. Why would you hire a guy whos talking to you like that?!
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Postby FourLegsGood » Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:28 pm

Darlene wrote:The job interview scene always freaked me out. Its like that Kids In The Hall sketch where Dave Foleys character has a speech impediment that makes him talk like he's being sarcastic. Why would you hire a guy whos talking to you like that?!


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Postby realcoolattitude » Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:11 pm

https://www.nytimes.com/1986/07/13/maga ... olson.html

I enjoy this article about Nicholson talking about how he approaches the work of acting. He's so lucid here.
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Postby scrambled » Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:19 pm

I guess because I knew all the iconography already of the twins/blood/etc, the domestic abuse stuff really stood out as most scary and terrifying and unsettling.
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