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Postby G_S » Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:44 pm

I still can't get over the limitless potential of DuVernay working on New Gods. I really hope it pans out.
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Postby Poptone » Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:47 pm

odilon redon wrote:
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odilon redon wrote:to me what makes superman interesting and relatable is that while yes he has godlike powers and is genetically completely alien, he was raised practically from birth as a human and that makes him the ultimate outsider. he’s fighting an endless struggle with how to reconcile his human and kryptonian identities, neither of which fully account for who he really is. “straight laced boyscout” is a really shallow take on the character.


it's not like i haven't read superman stories like this before. i'm just not moved by it.


okay fine but then it’s disingenuous to act like the inherent premise of the character is “boring omnipotent boyscout”


it's not disingenuous if that's the lasting impression i have honestly come by. if i read superman comics on the reg i might have a different takeaway. but most people don't do that.
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Postby G_S » Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:49 pm

you've whittled your point down from "superman is completely irrelevant" to "with minimal information, I personally don't enjoy Superman because he hasn't been in a good movie since 1980."
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Postby Poptone » Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:50 pm

superman is fucking stupid
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Postby Poptone » Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:50 pm

i'm just gonna lean in now.
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Postby Poptone » Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:52 pm

those movies that haven't been good since 1980 ARE the general populace's impression of superman.

what percentage of people that go see these movies read superman comics? uh huh.
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Postby tawny frogmouth » Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:57 pm

yeah but a director or studio's interpretation of a character being bad doesn't mean the DNA of the character is bad. anyone in 2007 would have been saying exactly what you're saying about cap, thor, and iron-man. give a character to a good writer/director and they'll be good.
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Postby G_S » Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:01 pm

god this story from AC #1000 was just perfect

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Postby goofjan » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:01 pm

omfg

plz if u get a chanse put some flowrs on algernons grave kthxbye
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Postby new blood, old hat » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:08 pm

That is intelligible to me
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Postby My Pal the Crook » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:13 pm

Poptone wrote:superman is fucking stupid

Listen I’ve been there. I felt that way about Superman for a long time. But in the right hands he can be incredibly endearing and compelling.

For me personally the first time I grew to appreciate what Superman can be as a character was when Bruce Timm did the “Superman: The Animated Series.” I recommend giving that a try and see how you feel about Supes afterward.
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Postby Viz » Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:27 pm

Everything Poptone is saying about Superman I would have said about Captain America before the movies. Cap was just a boring solider character who could only throw a shield and bark orders at the other Avengers. But yeah, MCU Cap is one of the best characters. And I think they could definitely pull something similar with Superman, where the only thing he wants to do is help you.

You should really read All-Star Superman. Morrisons take on Supe would translate well to movies.
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Postby tgk » Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:48 pm

Just make a period piece donner style superman 84 like they're doing with wonder woman. Give Batman the grey and blue getup get robin in there
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Postby Drinky » Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:51 pm

I love Superman. He's my hero.

Cavill was too smarmy, even before the CG-ed out mustache.
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Postby goofjan » Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:31 pm

I was gonna say Jon Hamm is the perfect Supes but then I googled him and saw that he commented he'd like to be Batman, which is kinda cool because he basically looks just like Bruce Wayne from TAS. But then I saw a pic of him with gray temples and thought oh man he'd be a great Reed Richards.
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Postby davideotape » Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:56 pm

tgk wrote:Just make a period piece donner style superman 84 like they're doing with wonder woman. Give Batman the grey and blue getup get robin in there


That was exactly the concept behind Singers Returns and honestly, if it wasnt for that superboy and maybe tighten up the script and luthers dumb plan, it wasnt bad. Like even no super-kid i would’ve probably been like “ok, luthers plan was dumb but i get it: 4 stars”

Brandon Routh was also the best Superman in terms of believing he was a legit sweet weirdo alien still trying to figure out where he fit in on the planet as an adopted son of the earth
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Postby Bartatua » Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:59 pm

they should do a movie based on superman 64
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Postby tgk » Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:03 am

superman returns felt so joyless to me, way too dark visually, and kate bosworth as lois lane and spacey as luthor were stinkers.
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Postby tgk » Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:06 am

cage needs to finally get his shot

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Postby Milk » Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:21 am

Viz wrote:Everything Poptone is saying about Superman I would have said about Captain America before the movies. Cap was just a boring solider character who could only throw a shield and bark orders at the other Avengers. But yeah, MCU Cap is one of the best characters. And I think they could definitely pull something similar with Superman, where the only thing he wants to do is help you.

You should really read All-Star Superman. Morrisons take on Supe would translate well to movies.



No though. I loved Cap before the movies BUT he has had some pretty stupid moments of course. But when well written, can be terrific. You probably need to read more than avengers to see it though. It's the fact that he's supposed to stand for an ideal that never really existed and he's an icon and he has to navigate everything with that weight on is shoulder and still try to not be a weapon of imperialist America. I love the scene in civil war when Castle just gratuitously killed two minor villains in front of Cap and Cap beats him up and asks him to fight back and he refuses. Or in Secret wars when Wolverine is being a dick to Parker and Cap tells him to shut up and sit down and he just obeys.

But yeah i agree that in good hands Superman is great too.
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Postby odilon redon » Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:04 am

aside from featuring in terrible movies as superman-henry cavill is mostly fine and not the main problem, although kind of vacant and borderline dim seeming to me and the biggest issue is that he kind of lacks that inherent quality of kindness that i feel is essential to portraying superman (something that brandon routh, for all his limitations as an actor, had in spades).

this is just stating the obvious but they need to get some really smart people involved in this on all levels including the actors because it's going to take some serious brain power and strategic acumen, not to mention creative ablity, to crack this shit and even come close to being able to compete with the mcu after the utter tatters that snyder left this shit in. so far this universe has been lead by total dunces excepting patty jenkins.
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Postby loaf angel » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:49 pm

lol
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Postby Milk » Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:40 pm

totally sold on him as joker look wise now. In fact the more i think about it the more i like it. Hopefully will be the first good joker (yeah no with DC cinematic universe's resume so far i still doubt it but you know).
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Postby Rhodes » Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:05 pm

Really into the idea of '80s clowns, tbh, so I think I'm sold on this.
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Postby Milk » Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:16 pm

I'm from Quebec so i'm by birth into clowns.
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Postby odilon redon » Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:51 pm

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Postby super gas » Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:58 pm

man, what happened to doc sportello
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Postby odilon redon » Sun Sep 16, 2018 6:06 pm

super gas wrote:man, what happened to doc sportello


he’s been TWISTID *yngvie malnstein riff*
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Postby super gas » Sun Sep 16, 2018 6:09 pm

got me a chuckle for thinking of a jewish yngwie malmsteen.
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Postby loaf angel » Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:01 pm

that clown is from Carcosa
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