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Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:16 pm
by Kenny
Trump should just pre-pardon everybody

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:17 pm
by coop

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:17 pm
by dimetrodons 'r' us
Big Oil wrote:hell yeah let's do this



"California"'s water supply would be an interesting issue to deal with considering it gets almost all of its water from the other two "states."

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:20 pm
by Kenny
Everything goes wrong now so I'm assuming that's going to go through. I assume a shitload of shitty OC people, a surprising amount of San Diegans and eveyrbody else in the green part to want to leave.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:26 pm
by dimetrodons 'r' us
Kenny wrote:Everything goes wrong now so I'm assuming that's going to go through. I assume a shitload of shitty OC people, a surprising amount of San Diegans and eveyrbody else in the green part to want to leave.


IIRC all redrawing of state borders has to be done through Congress in the end, and there has to be close to zero chance they'd follow up and approve this?

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:30 pm
by palmer eldritch
it's a silly idea, and it's not going anywhere

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:33 pm
by tgk
when was the last time we redrew a state?

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:38 pm
by palmer eldritch
fwiw even Southern California was solidly Clinton in '16 and I think it was narrowly Obama in '12. it could elect Republican governors tho, and maybe Senators in midterms.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:41 pm
by Ted Pikul
tgk wrote:when was the last time we redrew a state?


Apparently in 2017 North and South Carolina swapped 19 houses "following years of surveys and negotiation"

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:43 pm
by coop
how the states got their shapes was a pretty cool show

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:44 pm
by what the schmuck
Feech La Manna wrote:
delgriffith wrote:
Fuck this too.





Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:06 pm
by saranclaps
Someone pointed out to me that Trump's attacks on the news media are the accumulation of 35 years of grievances of how he was treated in print or TV or whatever, like those tweets stem from him being mad at people poking fun at his hair in the 90s.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:09 pm
by Buzz Fledderjohn
saranclaps wrote:Someone pointed out to me that Trump's attacks on the news media are the accumulation of 35 years of grievances of how he was treated in print or TV or whatever, like those tweets stem from him being mad at people poking fun at his hair in the 90s.


i'm sure that plays a part, but also like it's pretty much his last resort given the blatant level of corruption, crime, wrongdoing, lies, etc. there is no real coherent excuse for any of it, so you kind of have to go with the simple and all-encompassing "fake news! not true! lying media!" which all of his supporters get and agree with by now.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:13 pm
by dragon jeans
what up bootlickers is 100% my new email salutation

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:15 pm
by palmer eldritch
where DJT is right and the people who try to reign him in on his staff were wrong, is that the constant twitter tirades, repeating lies and attacks, works pretty well, at least with your base of support. consolidating a base of support within your party is important if you don't want to be challenged, investigated, impeached. the Mueller investigation is getting less and less popular, and Trump is cruising with Reagan levels of approval from Republican-identifying voters.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:20 pm
by viachicago
dragon jeans wrote:what up bootlickers is 100% my new email salutation


and "MARX" is my new signoff

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:24 pm
by delgriffith
palmer eldritch wrote:where DJT is right and the people who try to reign him in on his staff were wrong, is that the constant twitter tirades, repeating lies and attacks, works pretty well, at least with your base of support. consolidating a base of support within your party is important if you don't want to be challenged, investigated, impeached. the Mueller investigation is getting less and less popular, and Trump is cruising with Reagan levels of approval from Republican-identifying voters.

Yeah he's winning. And the laughs we all had after the Lester Holt interview seem like 5 years ago.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:25 pm
by The Emperor's Son
palmer eldritch wrote:where DJT is right and the people who try to reign him in on his staff were wrong, is that the constant twitter tirades, repeating lies and attacks, works pretty well, at least with your base of support. consolidating a base of support within your party is important if you don't want to be challenged, investigated, impeached. the Mueller investigation is getting less and less popular, and Trump is cruising with Reagan levels of approval from Republican-identifying voters.

nail it to the church

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:26 pm
by badhat
i think i am on Team That Guy

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:27 pm
by Ted Pikul
The scary thing about "fake news" is how effective it's been as an attack

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:28 pm
by easy
we could always try making the drumpf thing stick

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:32 pm
by darger
or a bit more emolument talk.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:35 pm
by quaker city

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:37 pm
by tgk
Eh they got all branches of govt locked up after the 16 election even the dumbest Republican on earth would be enjoying monumental support. Let's see how popular he is if we take the house and Senate back and can't get anything done

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:37 pm
by palmer eldritch
Ted Pikul wrote:The scary thing about "fake news" is how effective it's been as an attack


a big pet peeve I have these days is when people adopt this as a joke phrase or try to turn it around on Republicans.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:38 pm
by tgk
Man i am going to legitimately celebrate tonight if cohen gets arrested

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:40 pm
by Ferrous Bueller
palmer eldritch wrote:
Ted Pikul wrote:The scary thing about "fake news" is how effective it's been as an attack


a big pet peeve I have these days is when people adopt this as a joke phrase or try to turn it around on Republicans.


weren't dems the ones who coined it in the first place?

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:40 pm
by palmer eldritch
I trace it to infowars

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:42 pm
by hbb
Ferrous Bueller wrote:
palmer eldritch wrote:
Ted Pikul wrote:The scary thing about "fake news" is how effective it's been as an attack


a big pet peeve I have these days is when people adopt this as a joke phrase or try to turn it around on Republicans.


weren't dems the ones who coined it in the first place?


Yeah, Trump reversed it instantly by using it all the time, it’s so frustrating

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:43 pm
by Hal Jordan
saranclaps wrote:Someone pointed out to me that Trump's attacks on the news media are the accumulation of 35 years of grievances of how he was treated in print or TV or whatever, like those tweets stem from him being mad at people poking fun at his hair in the 90s.


eh, maybe, but this reason from the man himself seems more likely:

Lesley Stahl: Trump admitted mission to "discredit" press
CBS "60 Minutes" correspondent Lesley Stahl has revealed a candid remark made to her by then-presidential candidate Donald Trump in 2016. Stahl told a group of fellow journalists at the Deadline Club Awards Dinner in New York City earlier this week that Mr. Trump had admitted his consistent attacks on the media were meant to "discredit" journalists so that negative stories about him would not be believed.