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Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:43 pm
by Franco
Ferrous Bueller wrote:
palmer eldritch wrote:
Ted Pikul wrote:The scary thing about "fake news" is how effective it's been as an attack


a big pet peeve I have these days is when people adopt this as a joke phrase or try to turn it around on Republicans.


weren't dems the ones who coined it in the first place?



yea the anger i feel towards joke "fake news" or joke red hats is pretty similar to the real thing

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:44 pm
by hbb
If you think “instantly” and “all the time” make that a nonsequitur, I guess you’re not familiar with a little concept called the ETERNAL NOW

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:45 pm
by Hal Jordan
palmer eldritch wrote:
Ted Pikul wrote:The scary thing about "fake news" is how effective it's been as an attack


a big pet peeve I have these days is when people adopt this as a joke phrase or try to turn it around on Republicans.

especially when it's not even used the same way. dem's might use it sarcastically (or intentionally) for news that is in fact not true, while a lot of times republicans use it to dismiss news they dislike.

if the latter uses it that way, they prob think the former is using it that way too, and not actually pointing out it is in fact not accurate.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:46 pm
by mcwop23
The Emperor's Son wrote:
palmer eldritch wrote:where DJT is right and the people who try to reign him in on his staff were wrong, is that the constant twitter tirades, repeating lies and attacks, works pretty well, at least with your base of support. consolidating a base of support within your party is important if you don't want to be challenged, investigated, impeached. the Mueller investigation is getting less and less popular, and Trump is cruising with Reagan levels of approval from Republican-identifying voters.

nail it to the church



nail it to the church is such a cool phrase/use

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:01 pm
by jalapeño ranch
The thing that annoys me the most about "fake news" is it was originally meant in regards to the blatant lies Trump kept telling before the election, then he took it and forced it to mean the opposite.

edit: I see that's been covered.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:04 pm
by pana
Trump just retweeted the article about our galaxy being twice the size it was 2 years ago and equal to the size of Andromeda. And added "You're welcome."

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:07 pm
by viachicago
the issue is Republicans learned a long time ago they can shape policy and win elections by blatantly lying and creating dumb soundbites. it dosent matter if something is true or not. if you say it in front of a camera and broadcast to a low information base that actively rejects science, reason, and critical thinking they will vote for you.

the other issue is democrats are completely spineless and will spend all day trying to pick apart the logical fallacies of a raving lunatic who is appealing to a base entirely on primal impulses.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:10 pm
by mcwop23
they’re also good at messaging that assures people that they’ll be able to keep their money/way of life and if they aren’t rich and are white they’re good at blaming others for all their failures at achieving it

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:12 pm
by powderfinger
The coinage of "fake news" is an own goal of epic proportions by Dems. Great idea to adopt a phrase that can so easily be turned around by Republicans to perfectly express their decades-long campaign against the credibility of mainstream media.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:18 pm
by viachicago
powderfinger wrote:The coinage of "fake news" is an own goal of epic proportions by Dems. Great idea to adopt a phrase that can so easily be turned around by Republicans to perfectly express their decades-long campaign against the credibility of mainstream media.


and they created the entire notion of "mainstream media" to attack its credibility and lend credence to the notion that outside, fringe, or conspiratorial voices are the actual vessels of truth

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:19 pm
by VHGisdead
jalapeño ranch wrote:The thing that annoys me the most about "fake news" is it was originally meant in regards to the blatant lies Trump kept telling before the election, then he took it and forced it to mean the opposite.

edit: I see that's been covered.


It was originally used to describe actual hoax news spread on social media

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:21 pm
by VHGisdead
When I say originally, I mean with reference to the 2016 election. Obviously the term had been around longer than that

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:29 pm
by Shalabi
Mainstream media does not include the #1 cable news network apparently

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:33 pm
by palmer eldritch
I don't think "the democrats" had anything to do with the coinage of fake news. it was a term used in the media in a few stories shortly after the election to classify the actual fraudulent news that circulated on facebook, twitter, and phony websites. the term was immediately turned around by the alt-right and infowars





then it made its way to Hannity



and then DJT started using it shortly thereafter


Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:36 pm
by The Dirty Turtle
VHGisdead wrote:
jalapeño ranch wrote:The thing that annoys me the most about "fake news" is it was originally meant in regards to the blatant lies Trump kept telling before the election, then he took it and forced it to mean the opposite.

edit: I see that's been covered.


It was originally used to describe actual hoax news spread on social media


ya, even using it to describe inaccuracies is not how it first got used

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:36 pm
by tgk

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:51 pm
by Frank
palmer eldritch wrote:
Ted Pikul wrote:The scary thing about "fake news" is how effective it's been as an attack


a big pet peeve I have these days is when people adopt this as a joke phrase or try to turn it around on Republicans.


absofuckinglutely

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:54 pm
by Feech La Manna
man December 2016 feels like a fucking lifetime ago

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:03 pm
by bongo
yeah no one should be using fake news colloquially

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:03 pm
by hbb
It truly was, for my adorable 1 1/2 year old nephew

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:05 pm
by Feech La Manna
Charlottesville feels like it was 3 years ago and it hasn't even been a year

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:20 pm
by jalapeño ranch
The Dirty Turtle wrote:
VHGisdead wrote:
jalapeño ranch wrote:The thing that annoys me the most about "fake news" is it was originally meant in regards to the blatant lies Trump kept telling before the election, then he took it and forced it to mean the opposite.

edit: I see that's been covered.


It was originally used to describe actual hoax news spread on social media


ya, even using it to describe inaccuracies is not how it first got used

That was poorly worded. I should've said lies Trump was spreading from Breitbart, etc.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:21 pm
by saranclaps
I dropped the ball on the cult deprogramming shit.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:24 pm
by tgk
that asshole be arrested yet wtf

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:26 pm
by snuggle
tgk wrote:


Love to cool down with a little Issa on a hot day like today

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:52 pm
by KALM

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:56 pm
by tgk

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:56 pm
by Shotfrog
Let's not be too hasty

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:01 pm
by Feech La Manna
When u lose the snowball guy

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:02 pm
by tgk