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Postby worrywort » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:18 pm

that's food for thought from badhat. there's lots of variables of course, and leaving to do good elsewhere is probably a worthy decision. but i too was thinking of "white flight" as a parallel. i'm sure if you broke it down to individual concerns, lots of people's motives sound reasonable, but regardless of those motives the consequences are what they are. and if you know what they are ahead of time, and still go through with it, there's potentially plenty of shame in that.
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Postby important dentist » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:22 pm

i think white flight was a good deal more malicious/purposeful

i've always thought if i left the US (which i've only ever done a couple times even just to visit anyway) the only thing i could do would be a lecturer or professor or something to help explain to people wtf is going on in america. and i first thought of this years ago so i imagine the market has broadened significantly since then
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Postby worrywort » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:27 pm

some of it was overtly malign, some of it was "rational" worry about property values and things like that, a lot of it was people fleeing what they perceived to be a sinking ship neighborhood, some of it was keeping up with the joneses, some of it was opportunity to live somewhere new, and i'm sure lots of other things for lots of people. regardless, the consequences were the same.
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Postby badhat » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:34 pm

i just kinda think shaming people who want to live in anothe country is sorta reductionist

followed to its conclusion, everyone should move to a swing state.

was it selfish of me to leave colorado for california?

if you reduce it to electoral math maybe. but theres other considerations and i actually think i’m doing more social good now than i was then (better org, bigger city, influencing state policy now) even if my vote is much less important.

if you wanna not live here, the US (and other empires) are fucking up the world everywhere. from diplomatic collapse to environmental catastrophe to humanitarian crises, theres plenty to do.

i think if you work for comcast here and you just wanna go work for comcast in singapore,and not otherwise change yourself or the world, your leaving is probly a net loss electorally.
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Postby palmer eldritch » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:34 pm



what the fuck is today
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Postby badhat » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:35 pm

i used comcast cuz i used to work for them.
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Postby fester » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:37 pm

who will be the first democrat to take a courageous stand against drone striking babies
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Postby joe » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:40 pm

palmer eldritch wrote:

what the fuck is today


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Postby Kenny » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:40 pm

America needs to split up into several smaller countries or have a revolution, but even then it will still be filled with Americans.

Stay in America or leave there is almost nothing you can do to help anyone.

Maybe that's my despair taking. I really do fucking despair
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Postby Kenny » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:42 pm

Staying to help the less well off is like recycling to reduce emissions, it's good and all you can do but like 80% of emissions are caused by corporations or whatever so we're all doomed no matter what
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Postby Ferrous Bueller » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:44 pm

joe wrote:
palmer eldritch wrote:

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This is easily Daou's best jam since 1993


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Postby important dentist » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:44 pm

Kenny wrote:Stay in America or leave there is almost nothing you can do to help anyone.

yeah this is what i was gonna say

most people don't have jobs that are actively helping the situation; in fact most have jobs that just distract them from helping. voting is marginal for the most part. and you can donate to charities from wherever you want. unless you're actively lying down in front of ice vehicles or whatever then you do you

i'm not going anywhere though
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Postby palmer eldritch » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:46 pm

its not true theres nothing you can do to help anyone but you have to like people and helping them
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Postby tgk » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:52 pm

Living in Canada or New Zealand wouldn't make me feel any less terrible about the next school shooting or ICE atrocity. Not one bit.
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Postby Self Destructive Zone » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:53 pm

what's a fulltime job i could get helping people or at least fighting these assholes without any prior experience?
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Postby Kenny » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:53 pm

If anything these things get to me more over here, yeah. I feel helpless and apart
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Postby worrywort » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:56 pm

hmm, i wasn't even thinking about elections/votes. there's plenty of good to be done by being present and proactive or vocal. i don't 100% disagree with what you're saying about electoral value, intranational migration, etc. but i do think there's plenty of distinction between doing good wherever you are and throwing up your hands, abandoning america's problem for other people to fix, for other people to endure. for instance, if your response to reading about families being torn apart by DHS is to move to Europe, then what good have you done anybody else? what have you prioritized there?
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Postby joe » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:57 pm

Ferrous Bueller wrote:who got deleted?


holy shit it was universe, that's why we lost so many pages in may
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Postby mcwop23 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:57 pm

joe wrote:
Ferrous Bueller wrote:who got deleted?


holy shit it was universe, that's why we lost so many pages in may



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Postby palmer eldritch » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:57 pm

i miss him but hes in a better place now
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Postby mcwop23 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:58 pm

part of me isn’t kidding
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Postby john plainman » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:01 pm

palmer eldritch wrote:the problem with leaving is everywhere else is getting worse too


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Postby john plainman » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:02 pm

Self Destructive Zone wrote:what's a fulltime job i could get helping people or at least fighting these assholes without any prior experience?


work with the developmentally disabled
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Postby saranclaps » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:03 pm

this is the worst self-own i've ever seen
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Postby mcwop23 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:04 pm

is the # also supposed to say “opinion”?
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Postby joe » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:08 pm

mcwop23 wrote:is the # also supposed to say “opinion”?


I assume he fucked up and wrote option instead opinion the first time he did this and just went with it

He's pretty consistent though so I assume he's also going to legally change his last name
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Postby Denise » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:08 pm

Dennis Miller is an idiot if you can believe it
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Why did universe get deleted
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Postby freezinseason » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:10 pm

important dentist wrote:i think white flight was a good deal more malicious/purposeful

i've always thought if i left the US (which i've only ever done a couple times even just to visit anyway) the only thing i could do would be a lecturer or professor or something to help explain to people wtf is going on in america. and i first thought of this years ago so i imagine the market has broadened significantly since then


i think most foreigners know whats happeing in america better than americans so really the market where you could most explain things would be to clueless liberals in california or whatever
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Postby tgk » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:10 pm



Holy shit is this a bad bill
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