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Postby Feech La Manna » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:30 am



Damn dude it sucks there's not a bill with 49 co-sponsors sitting around you could vote for or anything
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Postby Franco » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:38 am

Buzz Fledderjohn wrote:



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Postby tgk » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:40 am

The only way things will change is if comfortable people start getting uncomfortable, make it so they have to confront their reality every day

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Postby easy » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:40 am

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I'm gonna click on that
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Postby OKterrific » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:40 am



don't worry the Free Speech Lovers will come to her defense
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Postby light rail coyote » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:41 am

Feech La Manna wrote:

Damn dude it sucks there's not a bill with 49 co-sponsors sitting around you could vote for or anything


there goes my hero,
watch him as he goes
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Postby easy » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:41 am

god DAMN it

"Here's how I feel about it: When I was a kid, 16 years old, I got fined for swimming in a lake 'cause I didn't follow the rules," he said. "These people that we have coming across the border illegally are breaking the rules. I have no feelings for them at all."
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Postby tgk » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:42 am

yeah thats the quote of the day right there
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Postby Ted Pikul » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:44 am

Sometimes you get fined in a lake
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Postby tawny frogmouth » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:45 am

Kenny wrote:My mom says that she doesn't like Trump anymore and calls him a big baby, but I just worry that she's saying it because she knows I'll say something if she doesn't

I'm trying to give her the benefit of the doubt


i would kill to have a parent like this
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Postby light rail coyote » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:48 am

yeah i haven't really spoken to my parents in a year because i'm sure they both voted for trump and i'm not dealing with that shit anymore.

i found my younger sister's twitter account and it's 90% her retweeting that kent state gun girl and complaining about trans people.
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Postby light rail coyote » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:48 am

do you think danny devito and rhea pearlman would adopt me
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Postby Feech La Manna » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:49 am

Ted Pikul wrote:Sometimes you get fined in a lake


wet and mad for 50 years
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Postby mcwop23 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:51 am

it’s a good thing we aren’t complicit in el salvadoran death squads or anything when we chastise people for seeking asylum
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Postby Shalabi » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:54 am

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Postby Buzz Fledderjohn » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:56 am

Meanwhile, as the border crisis spirals, the absence of a coordinated policy process has allowed the most extreme administration voices to fill the vacuum. White House senior policy adviser Stephen Miller has all but become the face of the issue, a development that even supporters of Trump’s “zero-tolerance” position say is damaging the White House. “Stephen actually enjoys seeing those pictures at the border,” an outside White House adviser said. “He’s a twisted guy, the way he was raised and picked on. There’s always been a way he’s gone about this. He’s Waffen-SS.”


https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/06/stephen-miller-family-separation-white-house
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Postby palmer eldritch » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:56 am

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Damn dude it sucks there's not a bill with 49 co-sponsors sitting around you could vote for or anything


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Postby Feech La Manna » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:11 am

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Postby shirts optional » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:13 am

palmer eldritch wrote:
Feech La Manna wrote:

Damn dude it sucks there's not a bill with 49 co-sponsors sitting around you could vote for or anything





Everyone should be on Jeff Flake's ass until this is fixed

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Postby fester » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:14 am

Gonna be a real mess trying to put back together the families already separated. The poop is out of the horse.

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Postby SabreFancS » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:15 am

This is unbelievable word garbage that I've seen conservative media taut as "great writing", that tries to explain how these mouth-breathers think and why they're ok with cruelty, with reasons that end up sounding as confounding and stupid as you'd guess (their minds work).

Apparently, the thesis is that evil begets evil, except their ideas of "evil" and "wickedness" seem a tad, different?

https://theweek.com/articles/779981/why ... ion-crisis

Why Trump country is unfazed by the child separation crisis

The bishop of Tucson, Franklin Graham, and Michelle Obama agree about very few things, but the inhumanity of President Trump's "zero tolerance" border policy is one of them. The New York Times and the New York Post, National Review, Jacobin, and The Federalist all agree that detaining parents and children separately is a crude practice that should be abandoned.

To find a defense of the administration you must journey beyond civilization into the jungles of the conservative internet. Here amid the febrile light and heat you will learn from the sleek leopards of the canopy and the hideously sluglike boa constrictors in the understory that Trump's policy is, in fact, based upon the soundest principles of Christian statecraft, according to which the laws of Caesar are there to be obeyed; that, actually, this was former President Obama's policy first, not Trump's; that the administration found itself with no choice thanks to an obscure court decision; that, honestly, folks, it isn't that bad, it's practically daycare or a cozy public elementary school (and think of all the money we're spending on it that could go to natural-born Americans living in poverty!); and that, after all, the phonies and frauds in the Fake News Media don't care about children and are cynically exploiting this situation in order to score points against our indefatigable flag-respecting commander in chief.

You are also very likely to hear a defense of the policy from the average Trump supporter in the rural Midwest. Here in the bowels of Trump country, when the administration eventually reverses course, upsetting only Ann Coulter and a handful of contributors to Conservative Review, the images of sobbing children in metal boxes will have cost the president nothing. There are any number of reasons for this, many of which have to do with the ability of many voters to pretend that one or more of the non-arguments proffered above is convincing. But there are other, more important, reasons for this that are mostly invisible to members of my profession.

One is that in many parts of the country where Trump enjoys wide support, the invasiveness of Child Protective Services is a fact of life. Everyone here knows what it is like to see their children or grandchildren or their nephews and nieces taken away, frequently for nonsensical and capricious reasons. The women my wife sees enjoying weekly supervised visits with their children at the local public library in our small Michigan town live in childless homes because their toddler fell down once or because a member of their family was convicted of taking or selling drugs. Parenting is something they have learned to conceive of as a kind of privilege rather than as a right.

They are accustomed to other sorts of random cruelties as well. Many of them live every day with the harassment of police officers, the condescension of teachers and social workers and the rest of the educational and public health bureaucracy, the leers of judges, the scolding of doctors and nurses, the incompetence of Veterans Affairs, even the smirks of grocery store clerks who seem to think that a woman who buys a case of beer while her children are in the shopping cart or when she is using food stamps to purchase her other groceries belong to a lower order of mammals.

Their manners have been barbarized almost beyond description. Just the other day I was walking next to my older daughter, who is 2 and a half, while she rode her tricycle. Eventually we came to a crosswalk and waited for the signal; when it appeared a pick-up truck that had missed the light came within two feet of hitting us. When I looked up at the driver he rolled down his window screamed, "Next time I'll just run your f--kin' kid over!" (He declined my invitation to pull over and further discuss the matter with me on the sidewalk.) Incidents like this are a wholly unremarkable feature of life in a world in which even the casual inconvenience of having to wait five seconds at a stoplight can give rise to quasi-homocidal rage and the ludicrous sense of power that comes from being behind the wheel of an automobile when there are pedestrians present is intoxicating.

How did this happen? It is almost impossible to give a succinct account, but any meaningful answer would involve the endlessly disruptive pace of modern life, the rise of the internet, the decline of religion, the disappearance of meaningful work, drug and alcohol abuse, and the resilience of atavistically crude manners.

None of this should be taken to suggest that the people I am talking about — even the one who almost ran over my daughter — are especially wicked. Anyone with a shred of empathy can see where most of these things come from. But there is a mode of politics in this country that appeals to the brokenness of their lives, the fracturing and poisoning of their imaginations, one that involves an affirmation of the thuggishness and despair with which they are so familiar and a suggestion that these feelings are the basis upon which a society might be organized. It did not begin with the rise of Trump. One could argue that it goes back to opposition to the civil rights movement or to the Know-Nothings or the anti-Federalists, all the way back to Cain and Abel, but I think in its modern incarnation it came into being with the Tea Party.

This was a movement that summoned out the inchoate rage of white Americans who had been left behind by free trade, the technologization of the economy, and the failure of Bushism to deliver at home or abroad, and found as its scapegoat a moderate neoliberal Democrat whose sole lasting achievement was the passage of the Heritage Foundation's health-care plan. The Affordable Care Act brought many of these people health coverage via the expansion of Medicaid. They do not know this. They only know that a man on television hated them for eight years. Now there is a different man on television who, if he does not love them, at least affords them a bizarre sort of respect. Above all he does not speak to them in the nauseating language of feel-good liberalism, except when it comes to the flag and the troops, the two universally agreed-upon objects of sentimentality. He speaks their own language of omnidirectional hostility and resentment.

President Trump's attempt to deter parents from immigrating by holding their children hostage is not going to lose him support among vast swathes of his base for the very simple reason that people who are accustomed to cruelty, on the giving and receiving ends alike, are not very likely to find such a policy appalling. They are wrong to feel this way. Their views are in fact — to use the D word — deplorable. But somehow I think that my anger and that of others is the last thing that is going to help them.




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Postby terminus » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:15 am

my dad is a lifelong democrat who lobbies on capitol hill and his response to everything going on now is insanely frustrating to me

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Postby tgk » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:15 am

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Guess someone is mad they didn't get to finish their mucho margarita last night
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Postby john plainman » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:16 am

palmer eldritch wrote:
Feech La Manna wrote:

Damn dude it sucks there's not a bill with 49 co-sponsors sitting around you could vote for or anything




arent there like at least two democratic senators that generally vote with republicans for those things, or do they jump across the aisle because they know its going to pass regardless?
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Postby john plainman » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:19 am

SabreFancS wrote:This is unbelievable word garbage that I've seen conservative media taut as "great writing", that tries to explain how these mouth-breathers think and why they're ok with cruelty, with reasons that end up sounding as confounding and stupid as you'd guess (their minds work).

https://theweek.com/articles/779981/why ... ion-crisis


it is so baffling, i want to ask these people to their face to just take a moment to imagine being four years old at bedtime in one of these places. whoever posted about their daughter having a nightmare and running into their room, that thought cuts right through any argument about "but the conditions are actually good". do they even turn the lights off at night? i cant imagine how.
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