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Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:37 pm
by Debbie
zorb not tonight

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:37 pm
by tgk
one of these days i'll be able to bury the 2016 election deep deep down inside me and never bring it back up.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:38 pm
by Debbie
i have extra deep tree rings from 2008 and 2016

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:41 pm
by big zorb
Classic Dog Avatar wrote:i think it's likely

a) ussr/russia had more important shit to worry about post-perestroika with 20 years of shitconomy
b) they weren't all that good at that / didn't have effective vectors or reason to go full throttle

it's not like a huge hack to look at the u.s. and realize man there's a huge faction of america that is impacted by globalization & modernization and that has a huge overlap with systemic lingering racism


yeah and looking at all of this and realizing that 50%+ of the people who will vote have very inadequate media literacy

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:43 pm
by freezinseason
Jimmy Firecracker wrote:
Classic Dog Avatar wrote:
freezinseason wrote:to be honest russia should be allowed to tamper in usa elections (if its true). you guys did it with their elections, so why not


nobody's actually talking about stopping interference/disinformation/propaganda, which is to me the interesting thing


murray st. wrote:how many levels of populism are you on


im a marxist, not a populist (whatever that is)

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:44 pm
by iambic
I think Russia's strategy has just be to sow general discord and confusion, encourage factions on all sides, etc.

they can hardly be blamed that one of their minor, throwaway operations resonated so intensely with America's racist core.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:45 pm
by Debbie
iambic wrote:I think Russia's strategy has just be to sow general discord and confusion, encourage factions on all sides, etc.

they can hardly be blamed that one of their minor, throwaway operations resonated so intensely with America's racist core.


yeah i imagine they feel like they won on a scratcher

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:50 pm
by freezinseason
iambic wrote:I think Russia's strategy has just be to sow general discord and confusion, encourage factions on all sides, etc.


i dont think anybody is that confused. there's american racists out voting for american racists as usual. and there's lefties who are dissatisfied that they aren't given any good options. who's confused in this scenario? seems pretty similar to most elections in the usa.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:52 pm
by brittle
iambic wrote:I think Russia's strategy has just be to sow general discord and confusion, encourage factions on all sides, etc.

they can hardly be blamed that one of their minor, throwaway operations resonated so intensely with America's racist core.

Yeah this has always been my take. Ru in 2016 was just like, "Democracy is bad and we'll prove it by perverting democracy"

I don't think they ever expected a campaign to go along with it so willingly, or how easy it was to bring millions of Americans along for the ride.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:52 pm
by big zorb
iambic wrote:I think Russia's strategy has just be to sow general discord and confusion, encourage factions on all sides, etc.

they can hardly be blamed that one of their minor, throwaway operations resonated so intensely with America's racist core.


how much did putin pay you for this post you sack of shit

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:53 pm
by Cronos
big zorb wrote:
iambic wrote:I think Russia's strategy has just be to sow general discord and confusion, encourage factions on all sides, etc.

they can hardly be blamed that one of their minor, throwaway operations resonated so intensely with America's racist core.


how much did putin pay you for this post you sack of shit


Check PMs

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:54 pm
by Debbie
freezinseason wrote:
iambic wrote:I think Russia's strategy has just be to sow general discord and confusion, encourage factions on all sides, etc.


i dont think anybody is that confused. there's american racists out voting for american racists as usual. and there's lefties who are dissatisfied that they aren't given any good options. who's confused in this scenario? seems pretty similar to most elections in the usa.


can someone tell freezin about the whole "fake news" narrative of the past 3 years?

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:58 pm
by palmer eldritch
not it

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:58 pm
by Self Destructive Zone
iambic wrote:I think Russia's strategy has just be to sow general discord and confusion, encourage factions on all sides, etc.

they can hardly be blamed that one of their minor, throwaway operations resonated so intensely with America's racist core.


that's a bingo!

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:00 am
by iambic
freezinseason wrote:
iambic wrote:I think Russia's strategy has just be to sow general discord and confusion, encourage factions on all sides, etc.


i dont think anybody is that confused. there's american racists out voting for american racists as usual. and there's lefties who are dissatisfied that they aren't given any good options. who's confused in this scenario? seems pretty similar to most elections in the usa.

like 90% of people in america are confused all the time. and you're fixating on the 2016 presidential election. russia promotes and encourages just about every single secessionist effort going in the west, including the californian and texan secession movements, which are motivated by wildly different politics! the general model is to just throw (negligible) dollars at anything that might be disruptive. one of those things just happened to be donald trump.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:02 am
by Cronos
Classic Dog Avatar wrote:
freezinseason wrote:
iambic wrote:I think Russia's strategy has just be to sow general discord and confusion, encourage factions on all sides, etc.


i dont think anybody is that confused. there's american racists out voting for american racists as usual. and there's lefties who are dissatisfied that they aren't given any good options. who's confused in this scenario? seems pretty similar to most elections in the usa.


can someone tell freezin about the whole "fake news" narrative of the past 3 years?



Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:03 am
by Cronos

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:04 am
by freezinseason
iambic wrote:
freezinseason wrote: 90% of people in america are confused all the time.


i still don't understand who's "confused" here. a majority racist country voted for a racist president, like they always do. they're pretty straightforward and clear about their politics.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:05 am
by iambic
if freezinseason thinks no one in america is confused, maybe he's french after all.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:06 am
by Buzz Fledderjohn
can we go back to making fun of judge jeannine or some shit instead of arguing with freezin

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:08 am
by Debbie
freezinseason wrote:
iambic wrote:
freezinseason wrote: 90% of people in america are confused all the time.


i still don't understand who's "confused" here.


weird, seems pretty clear to me

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:08 am
by Cronos
freezinseason wrote:
iambic wrote:
freezinseason wrote: 90% of people in america are confused all the time.


i still don't understand who's "confused" here. a majority racist country voted for a racist president, like they always do. they're pretty straightforward and clear about their politics.


it's not majority racist. Just that our laws and government have been designed so that these people will be able to override the majority.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:08 am
by freezinseason
iambic wrote:if freezinseason thinks no one in america is confused, maybe he's french after all.


i don't know what "confused" could possibly mean in this context. these people have had years and years to think about their politics. this isn't like some magic spell that the russians have access to. a republican is elected... is that really 'disruptive'?. maybe they'll 'disrupt' by backing a democrat in 2020.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:10 am
by Debbie
these posts suck total ass, freezin

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:10 am
by brittle
Yeah I was like, hell yeah we're talkin again and then freezin magically appears and just like that I want to go back to "lol no comuppence. World is piss. Bernie would have won. Here's a habberman tweet."

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:10 am
by iambic
freezinseason wrote:
iambic wrote:if freezinseason thinks no one in america is confused, maybe he's french after all.


i don't know what "confused" could possibly mean in this context. these people have had years and years to think about their politics. this isn't like some magic spell that the russians have access to. a republican is elected... is that really 'disruptive'?. maybe they'll 'disrupt' by backing a democrat in 2020.

you seem to be confusing me with someone who doesn't think that the reason Trump is president is "because Americans are racist," but by all means keep being banal.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:11 am
by iambic
freezin, I know it's been a while, but your gimmick is predicated on not being publicly clueless.

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:13 am
by freezinseason
iambic wrote:
freezinseason wrote:
iambic wrote:if freezinseason thinks no one in america is confused, maybe he's french after all.


i don't know what "confused" could possibly mean in this context. these people have had years and years to think about their politics. this isn't like some magic spell that the russians have access to. a republican is elected... is that really 'disruptive'?. maybe they'll 'disrupt' by backing a democrat in 2020.

you seem to be confusing me with someone who doesn't think that the reason Trump is president is "because Americans are racist," but by all means keep being banal.


how is this a "disruption" in any way? which people here are "confused"?

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:14 am
by iambic
at least do me the service of not copypasting your previous posts

Re: POTUS Trump Thread

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:15 am
by freezinseason
iambic wrote:freezin, I know it's been a while, but your gimmick is predicated on not being publicly clueless.


huh? i've made a promise to not swear any more on this forum... so my 'gimmick' of being a marxist is more chilled out and relaxed than usual. i'm asking you some straight-forward questions about which people you're considering 'confused' here