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Postby Shotfrog » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:14 pm

Shad-OH YEAH!
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Postby Ted Pikul » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:15 pm

gotta appeal to people named steve smith who put pronunciation on their facebook
loaf angel wrote:I love how Ted makes every thread as a testament to how fucking boring he is.

"I bought a new garden hose mk 2"
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Postby Hal Jordan » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:18 pm

who the hell emphasizes the ing in banning?
well that was intense
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Postby speakers » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:18 pm

Hal Jordan wrote:who the hell emphasizes the ing in banning?


nathan, as he bans someone really hard
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Postby Feech La Manna » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:27 pm

BANNINGA - Young Sheldon
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Postby fresh salad » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:38 pm

Yep, those are the jeans of a cat owner
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Postby endless dave » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:47 pm

darger wrote:
President Trump on Thursday is expected to end his push to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census and instead order the Commerce Department to survey Americans about their citizenship status another way, ABC News reported Thursday afternoon, citing multiple sources familiar with the move.


https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-end-citizenship-census


don't they already do this?
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Postby endless dave » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:50 pm

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the fact that shadow banning is the like THE cause for these losers is pretty telling, cause it was originally primarily a Reddit thing. And Reddit was the sort of "respectable" channel for Gamergate and that's where this whole shit really is coming from and that tells you how petty and sad (and kind of dangerous) this crusade is
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Postby darger » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:55 pm

endless dave wrote:
darger wrote:
President Trump on Thursday is expected to end his push to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census and instead order the Commerce Department to survey Americans about their citizenship status another way, ABC News reported Thursday afternoon, citing multiple sources familiar with the move.


https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-end-citizenship-census


don't they already do this?


yes!
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Postby coop » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:56 pm

motley crew
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Postby KALM » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:00 pm

darger wrote:
endless dave wrote:
darger wrote:
President Trump on Thursday is expected to end his push to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census and instead order the Commerce Department to survey Americans about their citizenship status another way, ABC News reported Thursday afternoon, citing multiple sources familiar with the move.


https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-end-citizenship-census


don't they already do this?


yes!

They do but there are serious concerns that the data is not reliable enough to serve as the basis for partisan and racist redistricting plans, which was the original reason they wanted to add the question to the census.

https://balkin.blogspot.com/2018/02/we-the-people-or-we-the-voters.html?m=1

You see, one of the forceful objections levelled against the Evenwel plaintiffs [who wanted to force states to draw districts based on the number of citizens rather than the total population], as articulated in this amicus brief from former Census directors (or more briefly here), is that because citizenship data is not part of the Census, there’s just no way to draw districts with precisely the same CVAP [Citizen Voting Age Population]. We can draw districts with precisely the same total population (or tolerably close) using Census data, but ACS citizenship data is not fine-grained enough. That’s no problem when you’re just estimating who’s going to win an election, as in the case of Section 2 enforcement—there, you’ve got big error bars anyway, and the ACS is not the main source of imprecision. In contrast, in one person one vote world, courts can and do demand very precise population equality, absent legitimate reasons for departures from it. Thus, do not believe Ed Blum when he argues, with what I imagine is tongue firmly lodged in cheek (although he’d deny that), “if the ACS is inadequate for the purpose of drawing districts, it’s hard to see how it could be sufficient for evaluating them under the Voting Rights Act.” He knows very well it’s not at all hard to see. What the ACS is inadequate for is not Section 2 enforcement, but rather, pushing the envelope in the next phase of the constitutional project that Blum himself tried hard to advance in Evenwel: the project of recalibrating the constitutional doctrine of one person one vote in a way that ditches the people and focuses only on the voters. This project has various other problems—for one thing, CVAP is not, in fact, the same as eligible voters, especially in states with substantial felon disenfranchisement—but one important objection this project ran into in the Evenwel round of litigation was that the quality of citizenship data isn’t precise enough to make one person one vote work.

By adding the citizenship question to the Census, the federal government would neutralize this particular objection to some future jurisdiction’s decision to draw districts with equal CVAP instead of equal population.
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Postby jack » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:01 pm

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Postby odilon redon » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:01 pm

endless dave wrote:
jack wrote:Image


the fact that shadow banning is the like THE cause for these losers is pretty telling, cause it was originally primarily a Reddit thing. And Reddit was the sort of "respectable" channel for Gamergate and that's where this whole shit really is coming from and that tells you how petty and sad (and kind of dangerous) this crusade is


“make up a conspiracy theory to explain why people hate me and my ideas” is like the main thing with republicans
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Postby coop » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:47 pm

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Postby tgk » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:47 pm

Coop'd!
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Postby speakers » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:49 pm

dang they shadow banned gorka at the shadow banning meet-up
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Postby Franco » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:51 pm

I can’t believe they got the Bagel Boss guy there on such short notice
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Postby jack » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:09 pm

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Postby deebster » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:13 pm

tgk wrote:


Gorka whining about getting a prank call on his show isn't very alpha

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Postby tgk » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:18 pm

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Postby Frank » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:19 pm

tgk wrote:


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Postby Grumby » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:27 pm

tgk wrote:


I WANNA DO BAD
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Postby Flossed Out » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:27 pm

I’ve never heard gorka’s voice. Why does he sound like the monster mash?
choom gang
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Postby dr. badvibes » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:34 pm

jack wrote:

i actually do hate how he and his maggot men have seized ownership of the phrase "fake news" (and defined it their way, as "biased mainstream media" or whatever)

iirc the phrase mainstreamed when it was being used to describe the russian disinfobots who strove for his election
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Postby Denise » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:35 pm

That has been a right wing move for years now just repurposing and coopting shit the left uses in earnest until it's meaningless
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Postby speakers » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:43 pm

Denise wrote:That has been a right wing move for years now just repurposing and coopting shit the left uses in earnest until it's meaningless


yup, and in a similar vein, accusing "enemies" of whatever they are actually secretly (or very obviously) guilty of
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Postby powderfinger » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:45 pm

So they gave up. That's a relief.
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Postby Denise » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:45 pm

Nice
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