The 2020 Primary

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Postby came to wreck » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:32 pm

https://secure.actblue.com/donate/beto-2020
according to this site 318 ppl have donated to beto for a total of $15,156?? maybe this is lagging or something else though...
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Postby galactagogue » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:33 pm

palmer eldritch wrote:I'm sure it's a trip to have tons of energy and be naturally charismatic but also have a wellspring of money backing anything you ever wanted to do in your life


palmer eldritch wrote:beto has more praise for AOC and Bernie than pretty much anyone else in the party. you could say it's because he likes "change" politics and is agnostic about the ideology, or maybe he sees that young people like them and he wants young people to like him too


these two points side by side are sort of indicative of the (neighboring) poles i move between.
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Postby trouble » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:35 pm

Biden just seems like a "break in case of emergency" if Sanders got some crazy momentum, but now bernie looks like a total idiot with a bandage on his head and Howard Schultz's dead-eyed face won't leave the news so young people who feel progressive but not necessarily socialist will just move to Beto or Warren.
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Postby tgk » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:11 pm

Bernie won wi mi and mn in 2016 primaries you don't need to identify as a socialist to support him
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Postby palmer eldritch » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:30 pm

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look at this bandage ass mf. I'm voting beto "the not bandage candidate"
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Postby palmer eldritch » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:32 pm

(every rally for the next year) heckler: HEY BERNIE, GOT ANY GOOD BANDAGES LATELY? I'M BEING SARCASTIC, I DON'T LIKE BANDAGES
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Postby trouble » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:40 pm

i mean the biggest question about sanders coming from people who haven't completely written him off is his age/frailty and a big dumb bandage is quite an unfortunate optic.

He'll be in an iron lung by June.
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Postby Feech La Manna » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:41 pm

What’s Bernie hiding under that bandage? Is it his tax returns?!?
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Postby trouble » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:41 pm

tgk wrote:Bernie won wi mi and mn in 2016 primaries you don't need to identify as a socialist to support him


he was one of two then.
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Postby Kevin McCallister » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:00 pm

trouble wrote:i mean the biggest question about sanders coming from people who haven't completely written him off is his age/frailty and a big dumb bandage is quite an unfortunate optic.

He'll be in an iron lung by June.


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Postby jack » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:02 pm

can't wait to see the bandage in every ben garrison cartoon
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Postby John Dark » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:18 pm

palmer eldritch wrote:(every rally for the next year) heckler: HEY BERNIE, GOT ANY GOOD BANDAGES LATELY? I'M BEING SARCASTIC, I DON'T LIKE BANDAGES


You mean the President of course.
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Postby trouble » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:23 pm

Kevin McCallister wrote:
trouble wrote:i mean the biggest question about sanders coming from people who haven't completely written him off is his age/frailty and a big dumb bandage is quite an unfortunate optic.

He'll be in an iron lung by June.


:roll:


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Postby mcwop23 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:31 pm

love that bernie is polling higher than anyone currently in the race
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Postby Big Oil » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:32 pm

tgk wrote:

well that's definitely how voting works
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Postby Polygraph Shakira » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:40 pm

palmer eldritch wrote:if elected, he will do the same thing with the green deal anyone else in the field will, which is nothing because it will never pass congress

Yeah. I'm pretty much out on Bernie 2020, and find much of the effusive rhetoric around him and how singular of a candidate he is to be pretty unearned given how tepid his campaign has been so far. Warren is the only candidate I'm excited about and have hope for.
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Postby brent » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:45 pm

all these candidates make me so depressed
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Postby Bernie » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:54 pm

Polygraph Shakira wrote:
palmer eldritch wrote:if elected, he will do the same thing with the green deal anyone else in the field will, which is nothing because it will never pass congress

Yeah. I'm pretty much out on Bernie 2020, and find much of the effusive rhetoric around him and how singular of a candidate he is to be pretty unearned given how tepid his campaign has been so far. Warren is the only candidate I'm excited about and have hope for.


She really been the only candidate worthy of serious consideration. I don’t see how people are still blinded by the Bernie 2016 buzz so much that she’s just being ignored at this point. I find it extremely frustrating how quickly people shut down any kind of conversation by talking about the Native American thing when it seems like that angle is mostly being pushed by the right to serve their anti affirmative action agenda.
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Postby Bernie » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:57 pm

Oh and Mayor Pete of course
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Postby mcwop23 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:59 pm

warren is definitely my number 2

bernie seems to poll better vs trump, and that’s been consistent since 2016
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Postby uncledoj » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:59 pm

tgk wrote:Bernie won wi mi and mn in 2016 primaries you don't need to identify as a socialist to support him


MN has a caucus not a primary
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Postby thrasher » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:03 pm

Polygraph Shakira wrote:
palmer eldritch wrote:if elected, he will do the same thing with the green deal anyone else in the field will, which is nothing because it will never pass congress

Yeah. I'm pretty much out on Bernie 2020, and find much of the effusive rhetoric around him and how singular of a candidate he is to be pretty unearned given how tepid his campaign has been so far. Warren is the only candidate I'm excited about and have hope for.


can you elaborate on this? I'll admit I haven't really followed the horserace at all so far so I don't have my own impressions of this. but it seems so early to judge, especially someone with an enthusiastic base of support like sanders.

and idk to me bernie is clearly the only candidate who is going to place class conflict as a central part of his messaging, and tbh that's the only reason i'm supporting him (I'll ultimately vote for whoever the dem is but I don't think I'd ever donate or volunteer or even try to convince anyone to vote for anyone else). i can't imagine anyone else including warren ever broaching that territory. I could elaborate on why I think his campaign is very much singular but I don't actually have anything interesting to say so I will refrain
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Postby palmer eldritch » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:06 pm

Polygraph Shakira wrote:
palmer eldritch wrote:if elected, he will do the same thing with the green deal anyone else in the field will, which is nothing because it will never pass congress

Yeah. I'm pretty much out on Bernie 2020, and find much of the effusive rhetoric around him and how singular of a candidate he is to be pretty unearned given how tepid his campaign has been so far. Warren is the only candidate I'm excited about and have hope for.


I don't really follow, because in many ways he -has- been a singular force in mainstreaming ideas that were considered kooky left stuff before.
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Postby palmer eldritch » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:08 pm

I like Warren, I like her policy stuff (it also will not become law but this is how you signal priorities and move the overton window), I think she might lose to Trump, fairly or not
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Postby mcwop23 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:09 pm

palmer eldritch wrote:I like Warren, I like her policy stuff (it also will not become law but this is how you signaling priorities and move the overton window), I think she might lose to Trump, fairly or not


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Postby Bernie » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:11 pm

Is it because she’s a woman?
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Postby chowder julius » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:11 pm

i honestly don't think i can make it through another election between a smart and accomplished woman and donald trump
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Postby Bernie » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:12 pm

Also, saying warren doesn’t confront class issues makes it pretty obvious you’re not paying any attention
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